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rosetyler51
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There is a monster of a thread asking for built in cloak on 3 Starfleet ships. Please go look at that if you want to speak out on that.
This thread is to talk about how we will make a cloak that is not like the Klingons or Romulans.
My idea is it should be a pure defensive skill so a lot of this will sound crazy.
Battlecloak
No ambush bonus
and pretty sure more things are needed
So what do you think?
This thread is to talk about how we will make a cloak that is not like the Klingons or Romulans.
My idea is it should be a pure defensive skill so a lot of this will sound crazy.
Battlecloak
No ambush bonus
and pretty sure more things are needed
So what do you think?
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My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
Essentially i think so.
Almost like a placate ability, you can still SEE your target, but your weapons and sensors cant lock on.
Emission seeking torpedoes would still work.
Upside, because we wouldnt get a buff to the decloak, we could keep our shields.
Essentially giving us the cloak, but taking away what everyone wants it for
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Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
5 EC says feds get trenchcoats ad long coats before the Klingons
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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There are already trench coats and long coats in the game. The Winter jackets are there, and available to all factions. The romulan veteran outfit is a pretty cool trenchcoat as well.
What's the point then? Anyone who wants to use this "purely defensive" idea will just slot Mask Energy Signature (which they already do!), and everyone else will STILL slot the cloak console.
oh, and for the ship cloak, just say no. I'd rather they put a CDR tac slot on the galaxy
As far as an actual Federation Cloak goes, the Phase Shift Generator from the Kar'Fi Battle Carrier. 10 second duration, 3 minute cooldown, cannot be attacked, cannot be targetted, cannot attack, can only use abilities that affect yourself. In other words, an Oh **** power.
It has already turned into spy vs spy enough as is.
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Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
I mean, if you really want to cloak all the time and soak up the advantages of that, there's literally two additional factions you can play as - Romulans and Klingons - that allow you to do that. That's kind of why you would play as one of them, partially for the cloak.
You are right but it looks like Starfleet will not stop until they have a fleet of cloakable ships on par or better then the KDF. This thread is me trying to stop them for just getting a pure copy of an other faction cloak.
Nope.
Oh look, it's this wild accusation again... :rolleyes:
That what feels off to me with the proposal. At best you're asking for an enhanced MES, or at worst a massive continuity breach.
At least you aren't asking for the ships to blow up every fourth use. XD
I agree, a cloak is really not Federation style. (...and then there's the pesky treaty.)
I think that something like a toggled holographic displacement is more likely along the lines of what Federation does. Look like a small fleet and force the enemy to choose a ship to fire on.
Energy signature masking to not show up on radar or fall off of TAB-target beyond a certain range.
Turning invisible is certainly the Romulan and Klingon shtick; but there's more than one way to be "invisible" or mitigate detection using the technology at hand.
Here is the Path to 2409: Volume 16 Chapter 1 and 2:
"Tragedy struck for Starfleet on Stardate 72487.91, when the U.S.S. Kelso was lost with all hands.
The Kelso was supposed to be on a routine mission to study the long-term effects of the Hobus supernova on star systems in the Devron Sector when it was destroyed. Initial reports indicated that the Kelso could have come under attack. However, when the remains of the vessel were recovered by the U.S.S. April, it was found that a coolant leak caused by an experimental cloaking device onboard the Kelso caused plasma to vent from the ship. The plasma reacted with ionizing radiation present in the area, causing the explosion which destroyed the Kelso.
After careful consideration, Captain Barax Wenn of the April revealed the cause of the Kelso's destruction to the captains of the Romulan ships assisting in the search for the vessel. In response, Praetor Taris lodged an immediate complaint with the Federation Council, and, as a "gesture of good faith," informed the Klingon Empire of the details of the Kelso's destruction as well.
Starfleet Security admitted that the U.S.S. Kelso was testing a Federation cloaking device. The Romulans then ejected all Federation diplomats and ships from their space in protest, and Chancellor J'mpok recalled the Klingon ambassador to the Federation back to Qo'noS for "strategic discussions."
After the revelation that Starfleet was testing a cloaking device, tensions between the Federation, Romulans and Klingons were at their highest point since the destruction of the Romulan homeworld in 2387. After a full inquiry, six members of Starfleet Security were court-martialed.
It took three months for Federation President Aennik Okeg to convince the Romulans and the Klingons to send representatives to a summit to discuss the situation. When the meeting finally began, Okeg made the Federation's position clear. He apologized for the experiments into cloaking technology, and said that he had signed an executive order banning all research into or creation of Federation cloaking technology.
"The narrow legal view may be that the Treaty of Algeron ended when Romulus was destroyed," Okeg said. "The Romulan Star Empire we knew is gone, and you are a new people. What has not changed is the Federation's commitment to peace."
And all of this happened in 2395 or 8 years after the destruction of the Romulus system. This is Star Trek Online lore so any Starfleet Captain using a cloaking device on a Starfleet vessel means they are breaking the law.
Also, the timeline from the All Good Things episodes where the Galaxy-X was introduced no longer exists. So what happens in one timeline stays in that timeline.
We already have the Photonic Displacement console from the Rhode Island and the Photonic Fleet ability so it is entirely possible to have a better version of the console only available to Federation ships. I believe that any Federation Cloak should be strictly for escaping combat instead of the Romulan and KDF cloaks where they are for initiating combat.
And how is ambushing ships behaviour that the Federation would condone? Starfleet are about protecting themselves and other people rather than attacking first. A 15% attack bonus for ambushing ships is not what Starfleet is about. Personally, Starfleet should never get any cloak, but if Starfleet gets a unique cloak, then it should be about escaping rather than attacking which is why the Phase Shift Generator would work.
Nice esoteric detail which invalidates this entire game from all canon for the supposed timeline position.. All good things is not canon or we aren't period... I prefer to Go canon with actual trek not the cryptic supposed trek in any case.
and by your canon logic wells class shouldn be in this game, mirror ships and a buttload of other ships. i will just continue breaking the law using cloak on every ship i fly
We all know that Star Trek Online is not Canon just like any Star Trek novel is not Canon. The only Canon is what the TV series and movies set in the Prime Universe dictate. The Star Trek Online universe and Novel universe are in completely different universes than the Prime universe.
What I quoted is the canon of Star Trek Online and anything that happens in Star Trek Online has to follow its established canon. So the Federation of the Star Trek Online universe was caught developing a Federation cloaking device and the President reconfirmed that the Federation could not research cloaking technology. So cloaking is still illegal in the Federation.
If next fall introduced a new Star Trek series that was set in the Prime universe and after Nemesis, then STO wouldn't use the new history even though it is Canon. Although, if CBS granted access to Cryptic to use the content of the new Star Trek series, then we could use the ships, technology, races, and some stories from it.