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Mixing Nanite an Polarized DHCs?
stonewbie
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Hey everybody,
I have 4 DHC slots 5 if you count the turret that i was thinking about upgrading into these weapons. Damage types are the same of course, but the debuff types are different.
I like how the polarized disruptors have a chance to lower the energy level by 25 so it debuffs their damage, speed and shields. Plus it has the standard disruptor debuff of -10 resistance. I'm not sure what to make of the Nanite disruptor bonus though since i'm not sure how bleedthrough works. I'm guessing that it's better then the standard -10 resistance debuff?
Would it still be worth it to just equip all polarized disruptors to increase the chance to proc -25 energy? or is the nanite bonus proc that good?
I have 4 DHC slots 5 if you count the turret that i was thinking about upgrading into these weapons. Damage types are the same of course, but the debuff types are different.
I like how the polarized disruptors have a chance to lower the energy level by 25 so it debuffs their damage, speed and shields. Plus it has the standard disruptor debuff of -10 resistance. I'm not sure what to make of the Nanite disruptor bonus though since i'm not sure how bleedthrough works. I'm guessing that it's better then the standard -10 resistance debuff?
Would it still be worth it to just equip all polarized disruptors to increase the chance to proc -25 energy? or is the nanite bonus proc that good?
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Like 1 nanite + 3 polarized + 1 polarized turret?
Or 3 nanite + 1 polarized + 1 nanite turret?
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I just wanted to make sure i'm not equipping 3 polarized when 2 would have been enough.
EDIT: Ohh and thanks for the tip about the elachi weapon. I took a closer look and saw that it does disruptor damage too.
DOUBLE EDIT: TRIBBLE i just checked the exchange and i only see the elachi in XI VR.
Oh yeah, if you're KDF allied there's also Elite Fleet Disruptors that reduce the resistance of shields which is supposed to be quite nice, particularly in PvP. Oh, and if you have really expensive tastes and run beams, there are the Galor beams which have a Disruptor base type, with both the Phaser and Disruptor procs with [acc]x2[dmg]x2 mods (requires Cardassian Galor lockbox ship on that char).
Peacekeeper High Command
Scorpius - Zelbinion Mk II
Is this a Lobi store Item @ 200 lobi?
With the lobi event going...pretty good time to pick them upm just dont get the 3p unless you use an elachi ship...nothing but hate for non elachi, but lots of praise when you own one
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nanite make bleedthru. polarized suck the energy up to the level when shields go offline.
nanite works when shields are up, polarised meant to get shields shut down.
which is preferable? since using both would be as pointless as tetryon weapons on drain builds.
Nanite Disruptor proc also is a small hull resist debuff as well as the shield resiliency debuff, so up until shields go they're great, and after that they're OK.
Well you see, polarized disruptors provide the polaron proc and the disruptor proc.
The polaron part of the proc will provide a debuff of -20(more when flow capacitors enter the equation) to all power systems...that is engine, shields, weapons and auxiliary...so even when shields go down, your target will do less energy weapon damage, travel slower due to lowered engine speed, and shields will regen slowly as well.
The disruptor part of the proc will provide a -10% hull resist debuff...
The nanite disruptor proc is less powerful then a normal disruptor proc. But it stacks...15%>10%...uptime when balancing both is rather common
So no, not as useless as a tetryon proc on a unshielded target by any means at all
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The flow caps guy chiming in since I love these weapons. Raising your flow caps improves the proc's power drain. I'm pretty sure I put the formula up in another thread two or three days ago.
so either you go full nanites setup to get the bleed thru fast and strong or you go full polarized setup to ensure that target got sucked and keep it that way forever.
Nanite also have an extra mod over polarized.
No issues with running them in concert, in fact, a team using both would out perform a team using one or the other
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either you suck energy or you pierce the shield. trying to do both will earn you no benefits, 2 half ways don't mean whole thing.
They leave separate debuffs, Nanite Disruptor Cloud and the standard Disruptor Hull Breach from the other. Unless there is some weird math going on behind the background i'll assume that i get 10+5 total. That would make the bleedthrough just a secondary bonus once shields go down, the primary bonus is the fact that its resistance debuff stacks with the standard disruption breach. I sacrifice a little uptime on the standard disruptor breach+drain to get bleedthrough and a tiny bit more resistance.
I'm seeing my drain, nanite cloud, and disruptor breach on targets pretty regularly so i'm happy with it.
on other hand you could drain dry the target. which means:
1. no shields at all, no dps need to overcome shield regeneration, no damage need to get them down, torpedoes do full amount of damage.
2. target stand still in space earning -10 defense instead of.. uuuhm... what was it?... never mind, its sitting duck by now, who cares what was it before....
this alone will help you kill the target waaaaaaaay faster then this "tiny bit"
more then this, you get:
3. no healing power/skills due to aux shutdown. which helps also to kill the targets faster.
and
4. no incoming dps. which helps a lot to survive stronger targets like tactical cubes.
all together its much more then this "tiny bit". and the more polarized disruptors you have the often it gets dry.
Meh. Polarized are kinda inferior. Here's why:
1) In general, hybrid weapons have slightly lower DPS.
2) You lose a modifier in exchange for an additional proc at half the rate. Not worth it.
3) LOLaron proc = ****e against NPCs, tbh
Nanite disruptors are fine. However, I would not use more than ONE Elachi disruptor on any build, however due to the nature of the proc; after it procs, the target cannot get the elachi proc for a couple of seconds.
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Yes but remember you still have the added benefit of the -10% dmg resistance debuff that can still apply vs the nanite's -5 dmg resistance rating (roughly a 4.8% debuff) and weak 2% bleed thru. However the base damage and mods tend to be higher on the nanite disruptors due to the one does two proc they have vs the standard hybrids.
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Is the polaron proc really not worth it? as mine comes in at -39 power drain, which on top of the plasmonic leech's drain would be in the mid 50's, if not boarding on 60.
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That way I am most likely to get the nanite proc, with a good chance of getting a disruptor and polaron proc. End result: the procs are where I want them.
Yes, "Rainbow" Disruptors will work just fine :cool:
Is that so? Please explain.
1. 1 (2 if counting fleet)ess mod...slightly lower indeed
2. You do lose a mod, but the proc rate is the same
3. A dead in the water npc that cant shoot and has no shields is rather awesome.
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