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Are there any civilizations in Star Trek that are more powerful than the Q?
lonnehart
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I remember the old TOS series when there were quite a few that Kirk had contact with. Like the one that had Kirk battling a Gorn. Or that other one where Kirk and his crew had to deal with a very powerful individual... until that individual's parents came to take him home. Then there's that time when they went to "The Great Barrier" (which we have yet to see in STO). Were they any more powerful than the Q? Or are there others (sorry... never watched the entire TOS run).
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"Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
"Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
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Melosians, Thasians (Charlie X).
And of course there is mention in TNG of the "Perserver" race that originally seeded the galaxy with humanoid life. If they are still around they would also be on par with Q.
Admiral Sovak
Does anyone remember when we used to be explorers...
I doubt it. That individual and his parents could probably have been Q themselves, I don't remember if they identified their race. If you mean "God" with the being of the great barrier I heard that in some novelization it got imprisoned by the Q there. But thats not canon. Canon is: Q don't need spaceships.
The Organians who masqueraded as a very low tech but peaceful people got tired of both the Federation & Klingons' warmongering that they ***** slapped them both and told them to get along, and the notion that the two would become fast allies (at least temporarily :cool:)
I also remember the TOS episode where Kirk and his crew were being toyed by this being that could pretty much do some of the things Q has done. He had this thing for dressing up like the he was in the 1700's. The episode where he made a courtroom appear and he was going to act as Kirk's judge, jury, and executioner. In the end, this being with all his power was merely a child to some much more powerful ones who promptly apologized for their kid's behavior :P
Star Trek has had a few of these things throughout the IP. It's just the Q seem so much more powerful because they were the only ones that had several colorful episodes across 3 different TV series (TNG, DS9, VOY). Q had the chance to really show off with all that show material. This includes the good 'ol formal introduction to the Borg when Picard and his crew were so smug that the Federation was ready to deal with anything.
Then Q goes, "O really?"
And of course, there's Q's autobiography, "I, Q". Written by Q--I mean, Discord--I mean, John de Lancie, himself. It's WELL worth the read.
Enough said.
I seriously doubt that the Q are afraid of the Borg or are even capable of being assimilated. It is more a warning to not interfere with them since unless a Q completely destroys the Borg or save every single drone, then there can be unforeseen circumstances. Like the Borg going on an assimilation spree to increases their forces.
Yeah, you go back and watch the "Squire of Gothos" and you find that he's exceptionally Q-like, right down to the childish personality and arrogant sense of superiority.
There's also that one novel series that has what amounts to the evil twins of the Q (called the P, or something like that).
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
It's also more about not ticking The Borg off or provoking them into assimilating other species that might not be ready to fight them.
The Q see the Universe as one giant game of Go + Chess + Settlers of Canaan...
if it didn't happen on screen it's not canon, so as for Trlane being a Q, he's not till someone says it on screen.
The M, actually.
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And before you ask, They are referred to by pluralized pronouns for the entire book, no name is given.
The Douwd.
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Precisely! He looks like a Q, he acts like a Q...
If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
Or a very good duckdroid.
Soft Canon = Official until contradicted by Hard Canon (film/tv episodes)
As with the Andorian four genders (never clarified in any way onscreen) Trelane is a Q until a film or episode specifically says he is not one...
not in my book they dont they are fanfiction imo
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Still he is powerful.
The great barriere around the galaxy is even made by the Q if you read the books. Q continuum made that to protect the galaxy against an evil Q? Q(john the lancie) in his young days made contact with that evil Q and two other ones. Those evil Q's? learned him to be a real god against normal creatures but it ended up that those evil Q's were actually doing genocide. So the good Q's fought against them and defeated them. One appeared in TOS (decapitated god like creature), the other one was actually "god" that needed a spaceship, and the real evil one was actually trapped in or just outside the barriere.
No, this is not how canon works. Nothing outside of the Tv and films is official canon. It does not matter what a book, game or comic says. it is never canon.
it can technically become canon by being acknowledged on screen, but that is pretty much a coincidence and got there by pure luck. it cant be disproved out of canon because it was never canon in the first place.
people are free to incorporate it into their personal view of star trek, which is why we have soft canon in the first place, but when having an argument about what is or is not. its on screen or not at all.
edit - just as an example. STO is its own soft canon. By your logic everything in STO is canon until disproved, but sto is clearly not canon.
Similar as it was with Star Wars, every game, book, comic, etc. published by Lucas Arts (trade mark owner) or licensed by it was considered canon.
The novels are not fan fiction, because they are officially licensed work, published under the Trek banner. Additionally, prospective writers have a very strict list of what they can and cannot include/do in their works, and much fan fiction would not be accepted without considerable re-writing. This official licensing grants them soft-canon status. Certainly not as valid as episode or film, but certainly not fan fiction.
I have no issue considering STO as part of the Trek canon, as it is unlikely to be contradicted by episode or screen, and is officially licensed. In fact, I dare say that a future series/movie may draw upon STO elements/refer to STO occurrences (Franklin Drake, New Romulus etc) which will make said references canon...
i say it again fanfiction if i dont see it on TV or the big screen did not happen and sto ever being canon is funny
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I'll say again: Officially licensed and sanctioned material... Official... Fan fics are not licensed...
not on screen or TV did not happen i can do this all day because you are not going to convince me that books are any type of canon sorry to me soft canon is something fans made up so they can think there books are canon
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