IMO all the hero ships connie, galaxy, defiant, intrepid and NX ship be a high T5 ship. High as in one of three pack ships high. After all these were the starships that helped get us into star trek in the first place
Since these are hero ships, then having hundreds of these ships flying around ruin the heroic nature of these ships. Only the Defiant gets constant use due to it being the only Cloaked Federation Escort in the game.
TOS Enterprise is the ship that made all other Star Trek ships possible so it is the legendary ship of Star Trek and flying it as the main ship in Star Trek Online is blasphemous.
Since these are hero ships, then having hundreds of these ships flying around ruin the heroic nature of these ships. Only the Defiant gets constant use due to it being the only Cloaked Federation Escort in the game.
TOS Enterprise is the ship that made all other Star Trek ships possible so it is the legendary ship of Star Trek and flying it as the main ship in Star Trek Online is blasphemous.
I would disagree with that
Very player in the STO is meant to be the game's hero, has that diminished your experience? It hasn't for me because apart from team missions I tend to ignore every other player. Same with the starships. If I'm captaining a galaxy class I don't really care who else is besides it's not like everyone in the game is captaining the Enterprise, Defiant or Voyager.
While we are at it...can I also request that we get the Type-9 Shuttle in game?
Of course you can! Thats the great thing about being a customer you can request anything you like but like the request of having an NX class higher than tier 1 its unlikely to happen
Very player in the STO is meant to be the game's hero, has that diminished your experience? It hasn't for me because apart from team missions I tend to ignore every other player. Same with the starships. If I'm captaining a galaxy class I don't really care who else is besides it's not like everyone in the game is captaining the Enterprise, Defiant or Voyager.
There can only be one hero ship per class. Archer had the NX, Kirk had the Constitution, Picard had the Galaxy, Sisko had the Defiant, and Janeway had the Intrepid. Therefore, our hero ship would have to be something different.
There can only be one hero ship per class. Archer had the NX, Kirk had the Constitution, Picard had the Galaxy, Sisko had the Defiant, and Janeway had the Intrepid. Therefore, our hero ship would have to be something different.
I agree, the difference being the ship is called the U.S.S.<insert your starship name here> with the same rules that cryptic have about starship names and prefixes.
I dunno about about only one ship can be the hero and all other ships in the class are just nothing. true it can apply to the TV series for the reason that each series had to be different from the others, with the exception of TOS since it was the original, but as I said before all players are the heroes in STO therefore what ever ship I'm captaining is STO's hero ship as well as all ships captained by players.
Is it unreasonable for a fan of Enterprise to want to captain a NX class at VA over one of cryptics home made ships?
Is it unreasonable for a fan of Enterprise to want to captain a NX class at VA over one of cryptics home made ships?
Yes because the game is set in 2409 and not 2209. You don't see Naval games set in the 20th Century have 16th Century Galleons and Steamships. You don't see World of Tanks have cavalry. You don't have games like Need for Speed have Model T Fords and other cars that are over 60 years old.
Yes because the game is set in 2409 and not 2209. You don't see Naval games set in the 20th Century have 16th Century Galleons and Steamships. You don't see World of Tanks have cavalry. You don't have games like Need for Speed have Model T Fords and other cars that are over 60 years old.
The Excelsior-class is a tier 5 ship and it was designed 2280's. Klingons and Romulans use ships designs based on ships that have been in service before 2209.
Naval games would be more based in reality than STO which is more science fiction/fantasy. I'll admit I don't know every much about world of tanks but isn't that comparison more like saying you don't have star destroyers in STO? STO isn't star wars and world of tanks isn't a game that has any sort of cavalry. Both could have them but it just isn't part of their IP. If there was enough demand for a ford model T in need for speed you would probably get but again that game is more set in reality STO is not.
Honesty, If STO adhered strictly to star trek lore and was a more serious game in general, like bridge commander, I would agree with you but STO is a bit of fun set in the star trek universe. You have starfleet captains captaining non starfleet ships left, right and centre, Feds share social zones with klingons, not to mention that they co-operate in almost every PVE queued team mission, and they're meant to be at war with each other.
A T5 NX class is not going to break the games realism any more than what has already been done besides the NX class is already in game and blowing up 25th century ships
The Excelsior-class is a tier 5 ship and it was designed 2280's. Klingons and Romulans use ships designs based on ships that have been in service before 2209.
Naval games would be more based in reality than STO which is more science fiction/fantasy. I'll admit I don't know every much about world of tanks but isn't that comparison more like saying you don't have star destroyers in STO? STO isn't star wars and world of tanks isn't a game that has any sort of cavalry. Both could have them but it just isn't part of their IP. If there was enough demand for a ford model T in need for speed you would probably get but again that game is more set in reality STO is not.
Honesty, If STO adhered strictly to star trek lore and was a more serious game in general, like bridge commander, I would agree with you but STO is a bit of fun set in the star trek universe. You have starfleet captains captaining non starfleet ships left, right and centre, Feds share social zones with klingons, not to mention that they co-operate in almost every PVE queued team mission, and they're meant to be at war with each other.
A T5 NX class is not going to break the games realism any more than what has already been done besides the NX class is already in game and blowing up 25th century ships
A game is set in the reality of the universe it is set in. What is not possible in Star Trek is not possible in Star Trek Online. So if we never saw a NX ship in service during TOS, then it was obviously decommissioned before TOS. So a T5 NX class is going to break the game's realism just like a T5 Connie is going to break the game's realism. The T1 NX we got is already a retrofit and Tier 1 is the best it could do. Or do you actually think that a ship that is hundreds of years older than the Miranda is better than it?
The alien ships that we can use are simply spoils of war or given as rewards for acts of valor. The war is effectively over after level 20 or there is a ceasefire. Meaning at level 50, we can ally with former enemies to defeat more dangerous enemies.
As far as the Excelsior goes, I suggest you look at the Lakota. The Lakota is an Excelsior refit that was in combat with the Defiant. The Lakota wouldn't have been sent to fight the Defiant if it was a piece of junk that couldn't even stall the Defiant.
As far as the Klingon and Romulan ships go, they are not the same ships as the ones seen in Enterprise and TOS. It is possible the Tier 1 ships are, but the Tier 5 ships are retrofits. Meaning they are completely new ships with new technology. The general look might be the same, but that is the only similarity.
A game is set in the reality of the universe it is set in. What is not possible in Star Trek is not possible in Star Trek Online. So if we never saw a NX ship in service during TOS, then it was obviously decommissioned before TOS. So a T5 NX class is going to break the game's realism just like a T5 Connie is going to break the game's realism. The T1 NX we got is already a retrofit and Tier 1 is the best it could do. Or do you actually think that a ship that is hundreds of years older than the Miranda is better than it?
The alien ships that we can use are simply spoils of war or given as rewards for acts of valor. The war is effectively over after level 20 or there is a ceasefire. Meaning at level 50, we can ally with former enemies to defeat more dangerous enemies.
As far as the Excelsior goes, I suggest you look at the Lakota. The Lakota is an Excelsior refit that was in combat with the Defiant. The Lakota wouldn't have been sent to fight the Defiant if it was a piece of junk that couldn't even stall the Defiant.
As far as the Klingon and Romulan ships go, they are not the same ships as the ones seen in Enterprise and TOS. It is possible the Tier 1 ships are, but the Tier 5 ships are retrofits. Meaning they are completely new ships with new technology. The general look might be the same, but that is the only similarity.
Why is it not possible in star trek? I know the real life reason is that the NX was the most resent Enterpise to be designed for the prime universe so unless someone had a time machine in the 1960's you were never going to see it in TOS. It also why your not going to see the NX on the enterprise wall of fame in TMP.
Ok lets assume the star trek reality is the same as the one in the shows. Do you really think the federation and starfleet, who hate war, would be giving out alien ships as spoils of war for a job well done? do you really think the federation even take any spoils of war? It doesn't really seem like the federations style to me. I don't think the federation from the show would take spoils of war but the federation in the game does because cryptic needs to sell lockboxes to stay in business.
nowhere in the games progression does it say that there is a ceasefire of any sort in place.
Last time i was in a nx interior it look noting like the one in the show so i can assume they made a new one that can be retrofitted into a teir 5. like you said for the romulan's and klingons' its not a ship from past dragged out of moth balls it a brand new ship off the production line. The head ship designer felt NX is in this season so he decided to design new ships with current technology in the shape of the old NX.
A game is set in the reality of the universe it is set in. What is not possible in Star Trek is not possible in Star Trek Online. So if we never saw a NX ship in service during TOS, then it was obviously decommissioned before TOS. So a T5 NX class is going to break the game's realism just like a T5 Connie is going to break the game's realism. The T1 NX we got is already a retrofit and Tier 1 is the best it could do. Or do you actually think that a ship that is hundreds of years older than the Miranda is better than it?
The alien ships that we can use are simply spoils of war or given as rewards for acts of valor. The war is effectively over after level 20 or there is a ceasefire. Meaning at level 50, we can ally with former enemies to defeat more dangerous enemies.
As far as the Excelsior goes, I suggest you look at the Lakota. The Lakota is an Excelsior refit that was in combat with the Defiant. The Lakota wouldn't have been sent to fight the Defiant if it was a piece of junk that couldn't even stall the Defiant.
As far as the Klingon and Romulan ships go, they are not the same ships as the ones seen in Enterprise and TOS. It is possible the Tier 1 ships are, but the Tier 5 ships are retrofits. Meaning they are completely new ships with new technology. The general look might be the same, but that is the only similarity.
I think you're looking for a realism and logic that just isn't there in this game; there just isn't any correlation between age and performance in STO, or canon specs and performance for that matter.
A few examples:
The T1 ENT Era T'Varo is a refit of the TOS era T'liss, and a better ship, when you'd expect it the other way around.
The Fed T2 ships: one is from the 2270s and the others from the 2370s, yet all have roughly equal performance.
The Jem'hadar attack ship was light, mass produced canon fodder in the Dominion War (Kind of like the Miranda, heh) but is one of the most powerful ships in STO.
The Odyssey is brand new, but fairly average compared to the Ambassador, Excelsior, or Sovereign, all of which predate it.
And if the looks are irrelevant and the 2409 tech inside is what matters, then surely there is no in universe reason to deny any ship access to T5? As rheatitan pointed out, STO is all about letting the player fly whatever Trek ship they always wanted to and be the hero, regardless of how much sense it makes.
As rheatitan pointed out, STO is all about letting the player fly whatever Trek ship they always wanted to and be the hero, regardless of how much sense it makes.
This is simply not true. A Starfleet character can't fly a Romulan ship or Klingon ship. A Romulan can't fly a Tier 5 Starfleet ship or Klingon ship. A Klingon can't fly a Starfleet or Romulan ship. The Excelsior makes sense since a refit of it was in DS9. Tholian, Breen, Dominion, Cardassian, and Ferengi ships make sense as spoils of war.
Tier 5 versions of Romulan and Klingon ships in TOS and Enterprise and no Tier 5 versions of Starfleet ships from the same era make sense because they are aliens so they don't have to follow the same design aesthetics as humans do and they have been in space for far longer than us so their technology has matured. So the Klingon and Romulan ships of that time are extremely durable ships while Starfleet ships have various design flaws and can't be upgraded that easily. As far as technology goes, we always have to get the newest product like the latest iPad and throw out or give the old one to someone else. It is extremely doubtful that we will change that part of ourselves. This results in Romulan and Klingon ship designs being able to last for far longer than Starfleet ships. I can't see humans in the 25th Century that would be using 22nd Century designs except for hobbyists. It is just like the 8 track, LP, phonographs, Beta players. There might be some around, but they are not being created anymore.
Perhaps I have no right to write on this forum, as it is nearly 3 years old...
But I would absolutely LOVE to see a Tier 5 or 6 NX class ship. Same with a Tier 5 or 6 of the TOS Constitution.
There are SO many ways it could work, too. For the NX class, maybe a console that polarizes the hull, FAR, FAR more effectively than the BOFF ability. Say +400 or so All Damage bonus resistance. Like the Ablative Generators, but less effective. Or a retro style Phase Cannon, that has a higher critical hit.
For the TOS - it could be a science based Cruiser, with an ability that would heal the ship if the HP got desperately low. Like one of Scotty's Miracles.
I dunno... I just REALLY wanna see an end game Tier of these ships. I'm a science officer, and even I'D be using an escort if it meant I could use the NX class.
Still the same arguments that Klingons still use BoP's and so and so still uses this or that...ect ect...
Those people seem to ignore that Starfleet isn't a very nostalgic faction...they love building bigger and better things. Other than general shapes and forms Starfleet doesn't really stay with a design for to long...especially if the design in the end doesn't turn out efficient.
The Connie for example...even with the Refit it was still more efficient to build the Miranda as the workhorse or the Excelsior as the heavy cruiser. The Connie was kind short lives...same with the NX...they built a handful of them and moved on.
While Klingons or Romulans or whoever may find a efficient design they like and stick with it, Starfleet is always moving on to bigger and better things.
Besides...as should be common knowledge by now if people bothered to look...stuff like the NX and Connie is a no no at high tier because CBS said so.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
The Connie for example...even with the Refit it was still more efficient to build the Miranda as the workhorse or the Excelsior as the heavy cruiser.
This much is true. Starfleet always tried to build overwhelmingly superior cruisers to counter the Klingons and Romulans. People like to decry Starfleet ships as being weak, but they always tried to go bigger, faster, stronger, up to the Galaxy class.
The Connie was kind short lives...same with the NX...they built a handful of them and moved on.
This however is untrue. The Connie lasted from 2245 to 2293. Nearly 50 years. Twelve of them were orignally built, with more possibly built later. There was a time in Trek before Wolf 359 when 12 was a large number of ships.
Well I meant more of the original...which is what people want...the original Connie was 30 something years old before they completely overhauled it for the refit...I mean a complete overhaul...to basically a new ship...sorta feels short lived to me considering ships like the Miranda and Excelsior were still used till in the late 24th century.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
STO has shown that pretty much any class of a ship can be bumped up to any tier - You have T1 T'Varo, T5 T'caro and if you stick the T'varo costume on Malem, then you have a T6 T'Varo. Same ship, except one time it has three boff abilities, and other time it has thirteen. Every Fleet ship shows, that the size, age or performance of the original ship class does not matter - ANYTHING can be turned into a T5+ ship comparable to the largest of dreadnaughts and battlecruisers, if you throw enough dilithium/zen/fleet modules/fleet credits at it.
It's not even really about the age of the ships - With temporal science vessels and dreadnaughts in game, you are flying ships that are going to be built in 500 years. By all accounts, they should be vastly superior to anything available to us, even if you take into account that Tholians stripped them of all the advanced technology. Scrapping them and building something new from the components should be much more efficient, than custom-engineering existing starfleet technology to fit the frame the Tholians left behind. BTW, can you imagine fitting 24th century warp core into a 29th century core housing? Like trying to fit AA batteries into AAA slot, I'd imagine.
So no, as much as anyone might want to try, there is no in-game logic for not making a T6 connie or ENT-erprise. There is only marketing logic, and possibly also reasons from the same family, as the car companies refusing to display the brands of their cars in games like GTA.
Although who knows - maybe one day we'll get one of those "Utopia Planitia Reports" that would "explain" it
The NX refit would be better at Tier 2 instead of Tier 5 to be honest
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Nah, needs to be T6 so it can carry the New Starship Trait for it: Cross Polarised Power Relays: Devised in the Face of a Silent enemy, an accidental Crosswiring of Power Relays was found to dramatically increase beam firepower once a means to cope with Plasma Backwash by shunting it into structural integity was Devised: Your Beam Overload 1, 2, or 3 grants you a free Polarise Hull 1; your Polarise Hull 1,2 or 3 grants you a free Beam Overload 1.
Just let me say that the general idea is brilliant. I love Enterprise, but even more than the series itself - I love NX class - amazing ship, and probably one that was closest to the idea of a real ship .
Anyway - T6 refit would be amazing, and yes - I would buy it instantly. And we need it with the NX class interior.
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Since these are hero ships, then having hundreds of these ships flying around ruin the heroic nature of these ships. Only the Defiant gets constant use due to it being the only Cloaked Federation Escort in the game.
TOS Enterprise is the ship that made all other Star Trek ships possible so it is the legendary ship of Star Trek and flying it as the main ship in Star Trek Online is blasphemous.
I would disagree with that
Very player in the STO is meant to be the game's hero, has that diminished your experience? It hasn't for me because apart from team missions I tend to ignore every other player. Same with the starships. If I'm captaining a galaxy class I don't really care who else is besides it's not like everyone in the game is captaining the Enterprise, Defiant or Voyager.
Of course you can! Thats the great thing about being a customer you can request anything you like but like the request of having an NX class higher than tier 1 its unlikely to happen
There can only be one hero ship per class. Archer had the NX, Kirk had the Constitution, Picard had the Galaxy, Sisko had the Defiant, and Janeway had the Intrepid. Therefore, our hero ship would have to be something different.
I agree, the difference being the ship is called the U.S.S.<insert your starship name here> with the same rules that cryptic have about starship names and prefixes.
I dunno about about only one ship can be the hero and all other ships in the class are just nothing. true it can apply to the TV series for the reason that each series had to be different from the others, with the exception of TOS since it was the original, but as I said before all players are the heroes in STO therefore what ever ship I'm captaining is STO's hero ship as well as all ships captained by players.
Is it unreasonable for a fan of Enterprise to want to captain a NX class at VA over one of cryptics home made ships?
Yes because the game is set in 2409 and not 2209. You don't see Naval games set in the 20th Century have 16th Century Galleons and Steamships. You don't see World of Tanks have cavalry. You don't have games like Need for Speed have Model T Fords and other cars that are over 60 years old.
The Excelsior-class is a tier 5 ship and it was designed 2280's. Klingons and Romulans use ships designs based on ships that have been in service before 2209.
Naval games would be more based in reality than STO which is more science fiction/fantasy. I'll admit I don't know every much about world of tanks but isn't that comparison more like saying you don't have star destroyers in STO? STO isn't star wars and world of tanks isn't a game that has any sort of cavalry. Both could have them but it just isn't part of their IP. If there was enough demand for a ford model T in need for speed you would probably get but again that game is more set in reality STO is not.
Honesty, If STO adhered strictly to star trek lore and was a more serious game in general, like bridge commander, I would agree with you but STO is a bit of fun set in the star trek universe. You have starfleet captains captaining non starfleet ships left, right and centre, Feds share social zones with klingons, not to mention that they co-operate in almost every PVE queued team mission, and they're meant to be at war with each other.
A T5 NX class is not going to break the games realism any more than what has already been done besides the NX class is already in game and blowing up 25th century ships
A game is set in the reality of the universe it is set in. What is not possible in Star Trek is not possible in Star Trek Online. So if we never saw a NX ship in service during TOS, then it was obviously decommissioned before TOS. So a T5 NX class is going to break the game's realism just like a T5 Connie is going to break the game's realism. The T1 NX we got is already a retrofit and Tier 1 is the best it could do. Or do you actually think that a ship that is hundreds of years older than the Miranda is better than it?
The alien ships that we can use are simply spoils of war or given as rewards for acts of valor. The war is effectively over after level 20 or there is a ceasefire. Meaning at level 50, we can ally with former enemies to defeat more dangerous enemies.
As far as the Excelsior goes, I suggest you look at the Lakota. The Lakota is an Excelsior refit that was in combat with the Defiant. The Lakota wouldn't have been sent to fight the Defiant if it was a piece of junk that couldn't even stall the Defiant.
As far as the Klingon and Romulan ships go, they are not the same ships as the ones seen in Enterprise and TOS. It is possible the Tier 1 ships are, but the Tier 5 ships are retrofits. Meaning they are completely new ships with new technology. The general look might be the same, but that is the only similarity.
Why is it not possible in star trek? I know the real life reason is that the NX was the most resent Enterpise to be designed for the prime universe so unless someone had a time machine in the 1960's you were never going to see it in TOS. It also why your not going to see the NX on the enterprise wall of fame in TMP.
Ok lets assume the star trek reality is the same as the one in the shows. Do you really think the federation and starfleet, who hate war, would be giving out alien ships as spoils of war for a job well done? do you really think the federation even take any spoils of war? It doesn't really seem like the federations style to me. I don't think the federation from the show would take spoils of war but the federation in the game does because cryptic needs to sell lockboxes to stay in business.
nowhere in the games progression does it say that there is a ceasefire of any sort in place.
Last time i was in a nx interior it look noting like the one in the show so i can assume they made a new one that can be retrofitted into a teir 5. like you said for the romulan's and klingons' its not a ship from past dragged out of moth balls it a brand new ship off the production line. The head ship designer felt NX is in this season so he decided to design new ships with current technology in the shape of the old NX.
A few examples:
The T1 ENT Era T'Varo is a refit of the TOS era T'liss, and a better ship, when you'd expect it the other way around.
The Fed T2 ships: one is from the 2270s and the others from the 2370s, yet all have roughly equal performance.
The Jem'hadar attack ship was light, mass produced canon fodder in the Dominion War (Kind of like the Miranda, heh) but is one of the most powerful ships in STO.
The Odyssey is brand new, but fairly average compared to the Ambassador, Excelsior, or Sovereign, all of which predate it.
And if the looks are irrelevant and the 2409 tech inside is what matters, then surely there is no in universe reason to deny any ship access to T5? As rheatitan pointed out, STO is all about letting the player fly whatever Trek ship they always wanted to and be the hero, regardless of how much sense it makes.
This is simply not true. A Starfleet character can't fly a Romulan ship or Klingon ship. A Romulan can't fly a Tier 5 Starfleet ship or Klingon ship. A Klingon can't fly a Starfleet or Romulan ship. The Excelsior makes sense since a refit of it was in DS9. Tholian, Breen, Dominion, Cardassian, and Ferengi ships make sense as spoils of war.
Tier 5 versions of Romulan and Klingon ships in TOS and Enterprise and no Tier 5 versions of Starfleet ships from the same era make sense because they are aliens so they don't have to follow the same design aesthetics as humans do and they have been in space for far longer than us so their technology has matured. So the Klingon and Romulan ships of that time are extremely durable ships while Starfleet ships have various design flaws and can't be upgraded that easily. As far as technology goes, we always have to get the newest product like the latest iPad and throw out or give the old one to someone else. It is extremely doubtful that we will change that part of ourselves. This results in Romulan and Klingon ship designs being able to last for far longer than Starfleet ships. I can't see humans in the 25th Century that would be using 22nd Century designs except for hobbyists. It is just like the 8 track, LP, phonographs, Beta players. There might be some around, but they are not being created anymore.
But I would absolutely LOVE to see a Tier 5 or 6 NX class ship. Same with a Tier 5 or 6 of the TOS Constitution.
There are SO many ways it could work, too. For the NX class, maybe a console that polarizes the hull, FAR, FAR more effectively than the BOFF ability. Say +400 or so All Damage bonus resistance. Like the Ablative Generators, but less effective. Or a retro style Phase Cannon, that has a higher critical hit.
For the TOS - it could be a science based Cruiser, with an ability that would heal the ship if the HP got desperately low. Like one of Scotty's Miracles.
I dunno... I just REALLY wanna see an end game Tier of these ships. I'm a science officer, and even I'D be using an escort if it meant I could use the NX class.
Those people seem to ignore that Starfleet isn't a very nostalgic faction...they love building bigger and better things. Other than general shapes and forms Starfleet doesn't really stay with a design for to long...especially if the design in the end doesn't turn out efficient.
The Connie for example...even with the Refit it was still more efficient to build the Miranda as the workhorse or the Excelsior as the heavy cruiser. The Connie was kind short lives...same with the NX...they built a handful of them and moved on.
While Klingons or Romulans or whoever may find a efficient design they like and stick with it, Starfleet is always moving on to bigger and better things.
Besides...as should be common knowledge by now if people bothered to look...stuff like the NX and Connie is a no no at high tier because CBS said so.
Well I meant more of the original...which is what people want...the original Connie was 30 something years old before they completely overhauled it for the refit...I mean a complete overhaul...to basically a new ship...sorta feels short lived to me considering ships like the Miranda and Excelsior were still used till in the late 24th century.
What made the pre-Federation Vulcan D'kry and Andorian Kumari so wirthy of t5 variants, while the NX-01 gets what?
An "NX" costume option for our other ships
It's not even really about the age of the ships - With temporal science vessels and dreadnaughts in game, you are flying ships that are going to be built in 500 years. By all accounts, they should be vastly superior to anything available to us, even if you take into account that Tholians stripped them of all the advanced technology. Scrapping them and building something new from the components should be much more efficient, than custom-engineering existing starfleet technology to fit the frame the Tholians left behind. BTW, can you imagine fitting 24th century warp core into a 29th century core housing? Like trying to fit AA batteries into AAA slot, I'd imagine.
So no, as much as anyone might want to try, there is no in-game logic for not making a T6 connie or ENT-erprise. There is only marketing logic, and possibly also reasons from the same family, as the car companies refusing to display the brands of their cars in games like GTA.
Although who knows - maybe one day we'll get one of those "Utopia Planitia Reports" that would "explain" it
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Anyway - T6 refit would be amazing, and yes - I would buy it instantly. And we need it with the NX class interior.