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NX Class refit

yuki109yuki109 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
edited December 2013 in Federation Discussion
my favourite star trek series is Enterprise and I know the ship is very old and the current ship is only T1 BUT nobody will use the ship because it is T1 so I would like to see the NX Class Refit in the game with the Columbia class skin.

now I'm not asking for a T5 version of the NX I'm just asking for a T2 or T3 version so that I can actually have a reason to buy it other than I like the TV Series
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  • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There are ships older than the NX at tier 5. There's nothing wrong with asking for it. A columbia skin would be great if it could fit.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,007 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Add a full interior with 22nd century crewmen, I might find an excuse to wear the Enterprise uniform, even a mirror universe version as well so the mirror enterprise uniforms are worth wearing again, combine all that with NX skins and Mirror NX skins, you've got a winner
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    • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
      edited December 2013
      cidstorm wrote: »
      There are ships older than the NX at tier 5. There's nothing wrong with asking for it. A columbia skin would be great if it could fit.

      Name one besides the Somraw. And no, the T'Varo is NOT the ship from Enterprise.
    • yuki109yuki109 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
      edited December 2013
      davidwford wrote: »
      Name one besides the Somraw. And no, the T'Varo is NOT the ship from Enterprise.

      Of course it is

      http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060205111055/memoryalpha/en/images/d/d3/Romulan_bird-of-prey,_ENT-aft,_cloaking.jpg

      so you are telling my that "THAT" is not a picture of a T'varo class chasing the NX-01 on the enterprise series?
    • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
      edited December 2013
      davidwford wrote: »
      Name one besides the Somraw. And no, the T'Varo is NOT the ship from Enterprise.

      Here comes the excuses.
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    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,007 Arc User
      edited December 2013
      On the subject of old ships,

      http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_Bird-of-Prey_(22nd_century)

      please make it happen
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      • rheatitanrheatitan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        yuki109 wrote: »
        Of course it is

        http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060205111055/memoryalpha/en/images/d/d3/Romulan_bird-of-prey,_ENT-aft,_cloaking.jpg

        so you are telling my that "THAT" is not a picture of a T'varo class chasing the NX-01 on the enterprise series?

        sure does look like it to me

        http://cdn3.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/237700/ss_f6cca229f6a11f5f229703f184358a0fda30bfa5.1920x1080.jpg?t=1369163616

        can't see why we can't have a fleet version T1 ship in the game, klingons have the B'rel romulans have the T'varo why can't feds have the NX?
      • unangbangkayunangbangkay Member Posts: 10 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        davidwford wrote: »
        Name one besides the Somraw. And no, the T'Varo is NOT the ship from Enterprise.

        Actually, old dev blogs note that the Somraw in STO is not the exact same model of Somraw as seen in Enterprise. It's got similar looks based on the older design, but is otherwise a different ship.
      • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        unangbangkay wrote: »
        Actually, old dev blogs note that the Somraw in STO is not the exact same model of Somraw as seen in Enterprise. It's got similar looks based on the older design, but is otherwise a different ship.

        Yes a ship can look like its old self and still be tier 5. That's all we're asking for.
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      • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        Because the Tier 1 NX is already the retrofit. Romulans and Klingons had Starships for centuries before they created the T'Varo and B'Rel while the NX is effectively the Model T Ford version of a Starship. The Klingons don't seem interested in creating new designs often so they will keep on recycling the same ship designs or refit older ships. The T'Varo was never classified as such in Enterprise. It was an unnamed ship. Therefore, they are two completely different classes that look similar. Trying to make the NX into a Tier 5 would be like trying to modify a Model T Ford for Formula 1 Racing. Might be possible, but it would no longer be a Model T Ford.

        Not seeing any difference between the Columbia and Enterprise. The NX Refit is most likely not available since it was never in Enterprise and would require getting the rights to it. A Tier 2 or Tier 3 version of it would make sense, but not a Tier 5 version.
      • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        And anything higher than T1 for the NX is never going to happen. CBS is who nixed that. And they are not likely to budge on it any time soon.
      • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        davidwford wrote: »
        And anything higher than T1 for the NX is never going to happen. CBS is who nixed that. And they are not likely to budge on it any time soon.

        Actually, the ONLY ships we've been told weren't approved by CBS, are a Tier-5 Constitution Class ship and the Enterprise-J.

        Nothing else has been told to us by the Dev's, beyond those two particular ships.

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      • hawke89305092hawke89305092 Member Posts: 237 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        There's also the ENT era D'Kyr playable at T5 (maybe not the best ship, but it's still there).

        Besides, at this point in STO's life when in orbit of Earth you see Federation, Romulan, Tholian, Breen, Tal Shiar Borg enhanced, Voth, Dominion, Cardassian, and Ferengi ships... do we really have the right to deny any ship a place in the lineup (from an in game perspective, of course)?

        Personally, I'll take anything that gets more faction appropriate ships into the game. :P
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      • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        daveyny wrote: »
        Actually, the ONLY ships we've been told weren't approved by CBS, are a Tier-5 Constitution Class ship and the Enterprise-J.

        Nothing else has been told to us by the Dev's, beyond those two particular ships.

        :cool:

        Exactly. We can infer that since the Tier 5 Constitution is not allowed, then the Tier 5 Constitution Refit is not allowed as well which causes problems for the people wanting a Fleet Cruiser Retrofit. Tier 5 versions of Tier 1 ships simply comes down to the devs' decision for all we know, but the simple fact is that the Feds have enough Tier 5 ships while the KDF and Romulans need more Tier 5 ships so we don't need a Tier 5 NX, Constitution, or Miranda until there the KDFs and Romulans are over-saturated with Tier 5 ships just like the Feds are. So at least 15 more Tier 5/Tier 5.5 KDF ships and 17 more Tier 5/Tier 5.5 Romulan ships before the devs should even think about adding Tier 5 versions of Tier 1 Starfleet ships.
      • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        I could see the TRIBBLE storm if they put the NX class as a tier 5 ship, and not the Connie.


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      • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        starkaos wrote: »
        Exactly. We can infer that since the Tier 5 Constitution is not allowed, then the Tier 5 Constitution Refit is not allowed as well which causes problems for the people wanting a Fleet Cruiser Retrofit. Tier 5 versions of Tier 1 ships simply comes down to the devs' decision for all we know, but the simple fact is that the Feds have enough Tier 5 ships while the KDF and Romulans need more Tier 5 ships so we don't need a Tier 5 NX, Constitution, or Miranda until there the KDFs and Romulans are over-saturated with Tier 5 ships just like the Feds are. So at least 15 more Tier 5/Tier 5.5 KDF ships and 17 more Tier 5/Tier 5.5 Romulan ships before the devs should even think about adding Tier 5 versions of Tier 1 Starfleet ships.

        While I applaud your defiant take on things...

        Your logic is quite flawed.

        We only know that the Classic TOS Enterprise & the "J" have been denied by CBS.
        (according to what we have been actually told by Cryptic)

        You can "infer" all you want..., but that doesn't make it factual.

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      • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        hawke89305092 wrote: »
        There's also the ENT era D'Kyr playable at T5 (maybe not the best ship, but it's still there).

        Besides, at this point in STO's life when in orbit of Earth you see Federation, Romulan, Tholian, Breen, Tal Shiar Borg enhanced, Voth, Dominion, Cardassian, and Ferengi ships... do we really have the right to deny any ship a place in the lineup (from an in game perspective, of course)?

        Personally, I'll take anything that gets more faction appropriate ships into the game. :P

        There is also the Andorian Escort. If you look at the D'Kyr, it only has a passing similarity to the Vulcan ships from Enterprise. Just like there is a similarity between most of the Enterprises.

        While the Tier 1 ships of these ships that showed up in Enterprise and TOS might be 100 years old or more, the Tier 5 versions only use a similar design and were built recently so aside from a similar design, there is nothing in common.

        As far as having all these alien ships orbiting Earth, they are spoils of war. When was the last time you saw a Model T Ford with a V8 engine and other modern conveniences on the street? Humans are all about getting the latest thing and it doesn't make sense for humans to waste resources on making ships that are based off of designs that are 100 years old or older. And before someone says that Starfleet is composed of tons of alien races, humans are the dominant force of Starfleet so human beliefs dominate Starfleet.
      • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        starkaos wrote: »
        There is also the Andorian Escort. If you look at the D'Kyr, it only has a passing similarity to the Vulcan ships from Enterprise. Just like there is a similarity between most of the Enterprises.

        While the Tier 1 ships of these ships that showed up in Enterprise and TOS might be 100 years old or more, the Tier 5 versions only use a similar design and were built recently so aside from a similar design, there is nothing in common.

        As far as having all these alien ships orbiting Earth, they are spoils of war. When was the last time you saw a Model T Ford with a V8 engine and other modern conveniences on the street? Humans are all about getting the latest thing and it doesn't make sense for humans to waste resources on making ships that are based off of designs that are 100 years old or older. And before someone says that Starfleet is composed of tons of alien races, humans are the dominant force of Starfleet so human beliefs dominate Starfleet.

        I'd be willing to wager that Shran, would vehemently disagree with you.

        We only see the stories mostly from a Earth-Human POV, that doesn't necessarily mean that Earth-Humans make up the largest portion of Star Fleet.

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      • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        daveyny wrote: »
        While I applaud your defiant take on things...

        Your logic is quite flawed.

        We only know that the Classic TOS Enterprise & the "J" have been denied by CBS.
        (according to what we have been actually told by Cryptic)

        You can "infer" all you want..., but that doesn't make it factual.

        :cool:

        Then give a good reason why there is no Fleet Cruiser Retrofit, but there are Fleet Escort Retrofit and Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit. They are all from the same tier. The Constitution Refit which is part of the Tier 2 Cruiser line up makes the only sense why it doesn't exist. The TMP Enterprise is the TOS Enterprise after going through a major refit. So if CBS said no Tier 5 Constitution, then that means no Tier 5 Constitution Refit. For whatever reason, CBS doesn't want us to fly Kirk's ship and that includes TMP Enterprise.
      • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        starkaos wrote: »
        Then give a good reason why there is no Fleet Cruiser Retrofit, but there are Fleet Escort Retrofit and Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit. They are all from the same tier. The Constitution Refit which is part of the Tier 2 Cruiser line up makes the only sense why it doesn't exist. The TMP Enterprise is the TOS Enterprise after going through a major refit. So if CBS said no Tier 5 Constitution, then that means no Tier 5 Constitution Refit. For whatever reason, CBS doesn't want us to fly Kirk's ship and that includes TMP Enterprise.

        I can not give you the answer you seek, grasshopper...

        You'll have to get one of the Cryptic Dev's, to answer that question.

        All I can do is speculate, just as you have done.

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      • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        daveyny wrote: »
        I'd be willing to wager that Shran, would vehemently disagree with you.

        :cool:

        Let's look at the various Star Trek series as far as aliens being part of the main crew. Enterprise has Doctor Phlox and T'Pol. TOS has Spock which is half-human. TNG has Worf which was raised by humans, Deanna which is half-human, and Data which is a human creation. Deep Space Nine has Dax and Worf. The rest of DS9's main crew which are aliens are not part of Starfleet. Voyager has B'Elanna which is half-human, Kes and Neelix which are not part of Starfleet, Tuvok, and Seven of Nine which is a liberated borg human. As you can see, Starfleet is dominantly human with the token alien. The only crews have a decent alien to human ratio is in the novels with New Frontier and Titan.
      • kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
        edited December 2013
        rheatitan wrote: »
        sure does look like it to me

        http://cdn3.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/237700/ss_f6cca229f6a11f5f229703f184358a0fda30bfa5.1920x1080.jpg?t=1369163616

        can't see why we can't have a fleet version T1 ship in the game, klingons have the B'rel romulans have the T'varo why can't feds have the NX?

        Feds already have this see below

        http://sto.gamepedia.com/Blockade_Runner_Escort
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      • yuki109yuki109 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        kapla1755 wrote: »
        Feds already have this see below

        http://sto.gamepedia.com/Blockade_Runner_Escort


        This has nothing to do with wanting a T5 refit of ANY escort I just wanted a T2/T3 version of the NX class
      • yuki109yuki109 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        For **** sake devs will you make some god damned KDF and ROM ships so they they will stop ******* themselves whenever a FED wants a new ship because I am really sick of them using it as an excuse to argue with the idea.
      • redsnake721redsnake721 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        This would be a nice T3 addition to the game:

        http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100722194044/startrek/images/1/16/NX-01_refit_quarter.jpg


        This was suppose to be the new Enterprise from the next season before the show got the axe.

        (I have a nice model of this ship that polar light just released)
      • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        starkaos wrote: »
        Then give a good reason why there is no Fleet Cruiser Retrofit, but there are Fleet Escort Retrofit and Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit. They are all from the same tier. The Constitution Refit which is part of the Tier 2 Cruiser line up makes the only sense why it doesn't exist. The TMP Enterprise is the TOS Enterprise after going through a major refit. So if CBS said no Tier 5 Constitution, then that means no Tier 5 Constitution Refit. For whatever reason, CBS doesn't want us to fly Kirk's ship and that includes TMP Enterprise.

        While I can understand not letting the Connie, it doesn't explain nixing the Vesper, Excalibur, and Exter. Especially as the Excalibur is a modern (2400) ship.

        Yes, I have been slowly swayed by that argument.
      • rheatitanrheatitan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        kapla1755 wrote: »
        Feds already have this see below

        http://sto.gamepedia.com/Blockade_Runner_Escort

        True :) I concede the point
      • rheatitanrheatitan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        yuki109 wrote: »
        This has nothing to do with wanting a T5 refit of ANY escort I just wanted a T2/T3 version of the NX class

        but really you'll be back to square one by the time you reach VA. You'll be looking at your NX class looking all lonely in your ship yard, like I do, with no reason to fly it even if the NX class is a T3 ship.

        IMO all the hero ships connie, galaxy, defiant, intrepid and NX ship be a high T5 ship. High as in one of three pack ships high. After all these were the starships that helped get us into star trek in the first place
      • raventomoeraventomoe Member Posts: 723 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        While we are at it...can I also request that we get the Type-9 Shuttle in game?
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      • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
        edited December 2013
        rheatitan wrote: »
        IMO all the hero ships connie, galaxy, defiant, intrepid and NX ship be a high T5 ship. High as in one of three pack ships high. After all these were the starships that helped get us into star trek in the first place

        Since these are hero ships, then having hundreds of these ships flying around ruin the heroic nature of these ships. Only the Defiant gets constant use due to it being the only Cloaked Federation Escort in the game.

        TOS Enterprise is the ship that made all other Star Trek ships possible so it is the legendary ship of Star Trek and flying it as the main ship in Star Trek Online is blasphemous.
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