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Could we please have an alternatives to the Fast and Flurrious? That race is is not fun with people bunny hopping their way to victory and having to grind out 2 tags per race.
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Yup, same for me, I lost interest in all the winter event has to offer. I only go for the breen ship and will ignore the rest of the winter event. With this kind of drops it is no fun playing.
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Meh, what i say I lost interest. They have to fix it real good before I burn my hands on it again.
Something that is to hard or cost to much time is not worth playing. Everything has its sweet spot and this is not it.
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IMHO I would love for the Dev Team to add in a mechanic that if you bunny hop consecutively on the ice, you slip on your tookus.
I remember what a fuss cheating in the race caused last year, though it was a very justified fuss by people tired of having to deal with cheaters. Jumping over the side of the cliff and basically skipping half the track to win easily. Heck, even after it was fixed people fussed because their easy win was taken away.
Even if they take away rolling and jumping, someone would still have to lose, that won't change.
And most importantly, you get to blow them up. Blast your enemies, see them explode before you, and hear their lamentations over the intercom. This thing is sadly lacking in that.
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Afraid you are wrong.
Go to the Foundry, there is a thing called Range Markers. You enter a set range from the objective, it unlocks. And the Foundry is inferior to what the Devs have. So they could very well set up where a player crosses the finish line, they get credit.
Maybe it should be also be a reward for one of the other activities too? Maybe a drop from the box you get from the gingerbread colony? Maybe pie-eating? The rewards from that seem somewhat lackluster.
If you are right I wonder why such a poor system is implanted. The other day someone was blocking the flag, it cost me my first price. Another day, I was second, but the one who was first did not collect the flag, so the second one did not spawn. In both sistuations it looked to me a buddy was helping a buddy.
A clear finish line would be the best, but if we have to work with objects and interaction, let all flags spawn at the same time. Give them a color code so you can easy see which is first, second and third.
Aim for the flag while pressing F like a maniac. That being said, removing commodities from snow piles has caused all this grief among players. Last year everyone got their gear and there were no complaints about the grind.
I believe range markers (and missions in general and the Foundry in particular) are a mix of server side and client side voodoo and also could not accurately distinguish who won in a race.
In particular, I think devs are unlikely to comment because acknowledging exactly how much of the game is not server side would open the door to massive exploiting.
To be fair, this is true in many MMOs and the workarounds can be quite strange.
For example, in WoW, loot tables get generated when you enter an instance, including for items that you may not earn in that run due to chests not opening/optional parameters, etc. Also, some polymorphs are clientside in WoW and will only be apparent to people who were present on a map when a player was shapeshifted.
I may have done so creative work with game mechanics in MMOs before. Ahem. They try to gate important things server side as much as possible but are often forced to shift some things client side. This generally include physics and emotes but may extend to things like some mission states like reach markers and Foundry triggers.
Even confirming that a feature is server side can create liabilities as it then becomes possible to trick the server into inappropriately launching a bit of code by sending it an error message for something that is not an error and letting the server side code correct something that is actually correct to begin with. I may have rolled a giant skeleton in ******** as a player race once. Ahem.
Point being, what you think is server side may not be. And no dev is going to confirm what is or what isn't, in general, except to say, "That's how this works" or "We don't have the tech for that."
And I think a big part of what made Cryptic's engine attractive to PW was how it leverages clientside and serverside events in ways that are difficult to exploit but manage resources effectively for the studio. And UGC is one area where that is on full display because Foundry missions are actually run from scripts that are downloaded to your computer in some cases. The Foundry is the descendant of the demo record tool that CoH, Champs, and STO have employed that allow for player scripted cinematics to be run through the client without an internet connection. And I'm not saying that NOTHING runs through the server.
I'm saying not to assume anything is and that the brilliance of Cryptic's code is that what is and isn't run through the server may not always be what you think.
Your client gets rigged to tell the server that Item #777 (which is a stack of 20 hypos) is a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship that you're trading to PlayerBob@Noname. And the server kicks in and says, "No. You can't trade that stack of 20 Jem'Hadar Attack Ships to PlayerBob@Noname because no such player exists." And so it places 20 Jem'Hadar attack ships in a stack in your inventory.
Again, the specific example shouldn't apply to STO but is an example of why MMO devs wouldn't want you to know what is clientside and what is serverside. Because what happens serverside is often a "No! That doesn't work. Let me fix that for you." Not a full set of instructions. And if players knew too much about what and how the server says "No" to or how it corrects, hacking could become prevalent.
But in general in MMOs, a lot of what happens server side is a "No. Let me fix this bad thing your client is telling you or trying to do", not a full set of instructions.
It took me some time to get boots on 7 of my people but I have epohhs started on all of them in one day of play.
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It seems like a bad choice to me to put a Doff Mission event (which I think I would really enjoy) locked behind a PvP action event. Those two types of events will often appeal to different people.
Personally, I don't have much issue with the limited availability of tags. You get some even if you don't win the PvP race just for taking part (provided you don't go off the track), and with 4 races per hour, you don't need that much time to get your daily 6 tags.
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Either the race glitches or someone has found an exploit.
Give the QQ crowd an alternative, sure- but please, don't take this pinnacle of entertainment out.
This is a bug/exploit that the devs are working on fixing. Needless to say people have found a way to cheat before you get to the flag.
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To ppl like me, that dont live inside the game, the winter event system is the best one by far.
1) Is the only part in STO that awards the best player (common thing in succefull MMOs)
2) I know that if I play well, ok or bad I will get 12, 6, 3 or 2 tags. In the summer event you could spend the hold day and get only one Egg because it was random.
3) Is a dam challenge, beside PVP and no win scenario, maybe the only challenge in this game.
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You complain about anything that seems a bit hard in the game. A couple of months ago it was tac console prices and now it's Epohh tags. The race occurs twice every hour, and running it well is pretty easy. The problem is most players hate doing STO ground related things and when they do they find it hard. What you need is some practice. You get 1st place, you get two days worth of tags which is more than enough. Even 2nd place gets you tags to do the daily.