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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    SHHH!!!! You weren't supposed to talk about that! Empress Di'an's takeover of the High Council hasn't been finalized yet! Fortunately, you didn't give away any vital information....

    Who is this false Empress? It's obvious the Ferasans are the true rulers of the empire.


    But yea, queues on KDF are much slower than Fed. Better off getting groups in chat channels.
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  • captainpugwash1captainpugwash1 Member Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    valkarie14 wrote: »
    Its a question that pops in my mind when i go to do an stf, i thought i will do minefield i need the money and consoles and first place bags me double yet i click yo join but zero people waiting or playin it, i been on other stfs and waited ages for anyone to do it what gives? Surely they should be more played than this, atm im considering switching to fed and plsying minefield and transferring over anything i get

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  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    The real reason that the KDF ques are so slow now may be much simplier and may go back to several years of KDF hate from the fedfans, coupled with the fact that the Devs gave the feds a Fed v Fed que to escape us evil KDF and the lack of real substance unil recently to the faction.

    Its been pointed out for a long time we where not wanted and that we have no value, by both fed and Dev alike, so this is what happens after years of abuse from the feds and neglect from the Devs.... you get a foe that no longer cares to que up for arena or CnH against the feds to hear complaints of how cheap it is to be decloaked alpha striked by a BoP from the fedrom who died or to see another released bit of content that thumbs our noses and seems to strip just a little more reason away to play from the KDF.

    You get KDF that just play what we have and leave the gloating to the majority that has done nothing but tell how insignificant we are in STO.


    You hit the nail on the head as per usual Roach.
    There is only so much of this kind of bull that people will just lose interest and go looking for greener and better developed pastures.

    Sadly for Trek fans STO long ago dropped any pretense of being a multi faction game.
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    why?

    0 - the fact that Trek is mainly FED focused is not a problem. (see Romulan success in the last months here)

    1 - they started as a PVP only faction = every PVP-loving Trekkie gamer created a klingon. the PVP was/is lacking (ground PVP is VERY lacking) == PVP players left

    2 - KDF has been underdeveloped for TOO LONG (all this need for a FED toon on certain lvl before creating a Klingon)

    3 - the ships problem,
    4 - the bug problems,
    5 - the uniform/clothing problems

    anyway, i am a little sad from time to time that my KDF main stays unplayed, the queues do not start, not even on my KDF aligned Romulan main am i able to do the Big Dig..

    PLEASE; DEVS; MAKE THE WHOLE STUFF CROSS - FACTIONAL!

    thanx
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    We are all at First City planning a raid on E.S.D. all 37 of us. The other 12 are in the pub.

    Speaking of pubs, the Gates of Stovokor crew is working hard on a brand new season after a very long break.
    visit gatesofstovokor.com or look it up in itunes and hear the latest episode; The Pirate Guild awards.
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Member Posts: 3,085 Arc User1
    edited December 2013
    the original design intent for Klingons was for them to be much like Creeps in LOTRO.

    not a faction at all but something for feds to do if they fancied temporarily playing a pvp focused alter ego.

    tbh they were lucky they got a city.

    they could have easily ended up with just a "choose your class/weapon" interface akin to what Creeps have.

    This information is wrong:
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    starswordc wrote: »
    Only one of the KDF's seven playable races (not counting aliens) even ascribes to the ideal of being an honorable warrior.

    Also ^this.

    This is especially hilarious when done with Orions (a treacherous, scheming people) or Gorn (a cold-blooded, xenophobic people FORCED into serving Klingons).

    On Fed side it's more bearable, since Federation in shows always was heavily human-centric.
    But I can't imagine Klingons bothering with propagating their culture into conquered races.

    And it's even more obvious oversight when you look at naming of doff missions for boff recrutation. They're clearly marked as "mercenary contracts" for Nausicaans, for example.
  • sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    staq16 wrote: »
    If any second faction was viable in STO, it was the Klingons. I mean, look at wider fandom - is there a novel series entirely about a Romulan crew, can you buy a Romulan dictionary or a Hayne's manual for a Warbird?

    Given the wider popularity and recognition of the Klingons, I can't believe they are not viable as a faction. They just haven't had the same sort of marketing as the Romulans.

    Novel series? Rihannsu
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    tlamstrike wrote: »
    You forgot the Marauder Flight Deck Cruiser and Varanus Support Vessel. Making it 6 to 6.

    Sweety... those are Tier 4... Brigadier General... not Lieutenant General.

    Check your gob before you open it and do your research, please...

    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Speaking of pubs, the Gates of Stovokor crew is working hard on a brand new season after a very long break.
    visit gatesofstovokor.com or look it up in itunes and hear the latest episode; The Pirate Guild awards.

    BLBP is working on a Romulan Audio series too....
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  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There is a simple solution: make all the Q'd missions cross faction. At this point who cares if you are Kdf fighting in gorn minefield or Klingon scout force - they could be rebels for all you care. Others like colony invasion and the big dig would be even easier to make cross faction - you fight romulan/remans in the big dig whether you are fed/Kdf/ or now romulan allied. There is no need any more to separate end game Q's.

    That would take some of the pressure off kdf players waiting for missions.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    You mean like "Birth of the Federation" or "Armada 1 & 2" or "Starfleet Command 1 & 2 & Orion Pirates 3" or "Klingon Academy".
    Your argument would hold water if other computer games hadn't already proven that it's possible nontheless.
    And how popular were non-fed races in those games? I know from experience that the KDF sucked in BotF. I never even thought about playing them in the pirates games. Orions and Feds were more interesting there. In fact... My favorite races in BotF were Fed, Rom, Ferengi. :P Cardassians were technically also an option, but they sucked as much as the KDF if not more.
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Honestly, that, and a couple other issues, are a 'leftover' from before LoR.

    Before LoR, Klingons didn't have 1-20 content, and thus they could start mining at level 24. Among other things.

    Problem with that is that they never changed it accordingly after they put in the 1-20 content.
    Also, the doffs you get from the DS9 bundle aren't useable until then. Shocking huh? (not really) Only doffs I know of with a level requirement to send on missions.
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  • jtmarshjtmarsh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    valkarie14 wrote: »
    Its a question that pops in my mind when i go to do an stf, i thought i will do minefield i need the money and consoles and first place bags me double yet i click yo join but zero people waiting or playin it, i been on other stfs and waited ages for anyone to do it what gives? Surely they should be more played than this, atm im considering switching to fed and plsying minefield and transferring over anything i get

    They did not go off to stovokor! They smoothed there heads and joined the fed ships. They look like kirks day! Ask Worf! Wait don't... He does not like to talk about it.
  • tsf00181tsf00181 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I can forgive the lack of ships. And the lack of costume choices. These things take time.

    The one thing I can forgive though is a the bugs. How many of you can actually use the the adapted honor guard helmet? How many of you have you have seen your elite Orion slaves loot something in the last month?

    Those are just two problems I though of right now. Both cost a crapload of time and in game currency. If cryptic doesn't care about my time, why should I care about theirs? Those two bugs have been acknowledged by the dev's.....but no fix. Its like taking a dump in your pants and continuing your day as usual.

    Also, its simple logic. If you can't get the tables right(in the case of the slavers) then don't change them. I cringe at every new update because I dunno what they will break next. The best thing I can figure out, Cryptic doesn't no their own video game.
  • rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The sorry state of the KDF faction and its related queues? You can put that blame squarely in the lap of Cryptic. It's what happens when there's neglect to an entire faction of the game. When this game was new, the KDF crowd was huge. Nothing like Feds still, but the sheer number of KDF ships and players running around was very noticeable, esp. in contrast to today. When it became clear as time past that the faction was not going to get equal attention, I could not fault players for bailing on the KDF.

    Cryptic was very slow in implementing missions for the KDF and still not on par with the number of missions like the Feds have. Despite this, I will say the KDF missions are more believable as "Klingon" missions than the Fed ones. They actually fit the theme of what the KDF is about, unlike the Fed missions where you're left wondering, "Is this really Starfleet? This isn't what they'd do." The KDF missions fit the style of what the Klingons are, which really cannot be said about the Fed equivalents.

    Next is ships.
    - KDF still has fewer ships to choose from.
    - The Romulans, despite being the new faction, a subfaction of all things, already have more C-Store endgame ships than the KDF has.
    KDF has 4: B'Rel, Kar'Fi, Bortasqu (3 ships, I count as 1), Guramba
    Romulans have 6 ships: T'Varo, Dhelan, Mogai, Ar'Kif, Scimitar (3 ships, I count as 1), D'Deridex, Haakona
    - The last KDF endgame C-Store ship is the failure that we call the Bortasqu' pack. And that was almost 2 YEARS ago.

    And one wonders why the KDF is a ghost town? It's due to neglect.

    But hey, we have Dinosaurs that shoot laser beams from their heads now.

    Ouch.
    There's alot of truth right there.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    sunseahl wrote: »
    Novel series? Rihannsu
    Romulan Dictionary? Rihannsu
    Manual for a warbird? Rihannsu Engineering Chapters




    Sweety... those are Tier 4... Brigadier General... not Lieutenant General.

    Check your gob before you open it and do your research, please...




    BLBP is working on a Romulan Audio series too....

    Excellent! I look forward to hearing it.
    The GoS also has a KDF themed Romulan podcast inthe works. We must do cross over oneday.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    - The last KDF endgame C-Store ship is the failure that we call the Bortasqu' pack. And that was almost 2 YEARS ago.

    IMHO the Bortasqu' failed because it was altogether too different from the rest of the KDF lineup. Other than being DC-capable it's basically a reskinned Fed cruiser, slow-turning and tough, not a fast glass cannon like a BoP or Raptor. And since it's the only ship like that KDF-side, making an existing character work on it usually took a respec. (This comes out of the current Bortasqu' thread in the KDF forums.)
    Just out of curiousity do you have any stats that back up that Orions are the most common kdf race?

    I don't, it's mostly from observation of ground hubs (mainly DS9 since I spend a lot of time in Beta Ursae, but also New Romulus, Drozana, and First City). Certainly, a very high percentage of visible KDF chars are Orion women, usually scantily clad. (I'm not the only one to make this observation by a long shot; it even got mentioned in The Foundry Roundtable #31.)
    sunseahl wrote: »
    Sweety... those are Tier 4... Brigadier General... not Lieutenant General.

    Check your gob before you open it and do your research, please...

    Do it yourself, sunseahl. The Varanus and Corsair have fleet versions. EDIT: Oh, hang on, the guy he was talking to was talking about C-Store ships. My bad.
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  • sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Excellent! I look forward to hearing it.
    The GoS also has a KDF themed Romulan podcast inthe works. We must do cross over oneday.


    There's already a planned intertwining with Gates and the new audio drama... I should know... I'm on staff. :P
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  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    duaths1 wrote: »
    why?

    0 - the fact that Trek is mainly FED focused is not a problem. (see Romulan success in the last months here)

    1 - they started as a PVP only faction = every PVP-loving Trekkie gamer created a klingon. the PVP was/is lacking (ground PVP is VERY lacking) == PVP players left

    2 - KDF has been underdeveloped for TOO LONG (all this need for a FED toon on certain lvl before creating a Klingon)

    3 - the ships problem,
    4 - the bug problems,
    5 - the uniform/clothing problems

    anyway, i am a little sad from time to time that my KDF main stays unplayed, the queues do not start, not even on my KDF aligned Romulan main am i able to do the Big Dig..

    PLEASE; DEVS; MAKE THE WHOLE STUFF CROSS - FACTIONAL!

    thanx


    Rommy success came at KDF expense. The ships are better but near identical in function, the boffs are better. They are also cross factional instead of their own faction. Most players had invested more into Fedside, so the Rommy's tended to be Feds for in general cheaper gear via surplus on Fedside and access to already unlocked consoles. Releasing Rommies they way they did was a bootstrap way of giving Feds KDF goodies in a power creep kind of way. Anymore things are going to be cross faction far more often then not from a KDF perspective.

    The only plus side I saw out of that release was non grindy Rommy content (not that there wasn't also grindy content). Sadly, I was underwhelmed by the KDF storyline additions. Was hoping for more quality like the 1 off mission w/the Hunters. They need to have that guy and the guy who did the What Lies Beneath mission (if they aren't the same) spend time making one quality one-off mission at least 1x per quarter. Tbh, I wouldn't care if they're cross faction, better then this ever repeating grind TRIBBLE.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    sunseahl wrote: »
    There's already a planned intertwining with Gates and the new audio drama... I should know... I'm on staff. :P

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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I don't usually have time for STFs. So this is why you won't see me on my KDF doing them. And that includes my Fed and Rom as well.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    the original design intent for Klingons was for them to be much like Creeps in LOTRO.

    not a faction at all but something for feds to do if they fancied temporarily playing a pvp focused alter ego.

    tbh they were lucky they got a city.

    they could have easily ended up with just a "choose your class/weapon" interface akin to what Creeps have.

    Completely false, so said Jack Emmert way before released.

    YouTube, precisely 1m48s if YT is acting up funny. KDF & Feds were to be full fledged factions, PVE & PVP.

    They fell behind in development it seemed and just gave up on the KDF even before the game released. The state of the KDF on release was so bad that it became clear where all the cuts were made.
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited December 2013
    KDF is still more fun than Feds despite all the advantages that Feds and now Roms have. The missions also feel more in character and the Klingon tutorial is among the best PvE produced by Cryptic.


    It is really shortsighted of Cryptic to ignore the other major faction in game for so many reasons.

    1) Lost possibilities with stories and exposition
    2) Lost sales from character customization and other convenience features
    3) Lost sales from ships (Feds are over saturated)

    Maybe they will realize this one day (soon?) ... most especially if Season 8 is the flop it appears to be so far.
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  • krovankrovan Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    westx211 wrote: »
    Many people would like to blame the KDF low population on cryptic. This is a falsity. The Klingons have been and will continue to ALWAYS be the minority of players or fan base. There will always be more people who like the federation than who like the klingons. Its not gonna change. They could have screwed up the feds as bad as the klinks were for a while and more people would still have gone fed.

    There have always been more feds yes.

    I played Klingon at launch, our fleet was massive, we had two other fleets that we were allied with. Our 50 slot vent server was at capacity round the clock.
    We had 7 different pvp channels alone.

    Three months later there were 5 people left, everyone quit after the absolute debacle that Cryptic had perpetrated to Klingon players.
    The trend continued for the better part of the next year, and until featured episodes finally gave us something to do the damage had been done.

    We're there always more feds? Sure.
    But there were a Lot of active Kdf players at the onset, and more would have piled on if promises had been kept.
    Now all the content is there, but the players have moved on.

    It was Cryptic's fault, but the blame game is irrelevant now. The problem is never going to be fixed, it's time to move on and just eliminate the war.

    Pvp can just become simulated holodeck training for captains to fight each other.
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  • ztstrikeztstrike Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The reason why so fell people play Fed is that they are not very special. They have their own theme and they had a few things that set themselves as different from the feds. However, as time goes on Cryptic keeps making that gap smaller and smaller.

    Klingons have their own theme and way of play. That is good to bring role-players and people who play for that oh so special klingon feeling. Aside from that Klingons specialize in Raiders and Battlecruisers. Problems are that Raiders are such glass cannons that they are hell to run in Tier V. This could be fixed with the addition of a battle cloak, however again they gave this to someone else, the Roms. The Tovaro is far better of a raider than any klingon ship. The Klingon battlecruisers where nice but always had bad officer setups. Then Cryptic goes and gives the Feds the best Battlecruiser in the game (the Avenger.) Sure the Klingons get their version later this month, but it won't help the problem.

    I take it I have summed up my point. There are many other things that point out this decreasing gap.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    KDF is still more fun than Feds despite all the advantages that Feds and now Roms have. The missions also feel more in character and the Klingon tutorial is among the best PvE produced by Cryptic.
    If your char is a Klingon, otherwise it's weird. I grew so tired of complaining about honor, and saying stuff like "Qa'pla !" all the time during storyline that I made it a Klingon instead.
    The KDF allow us to make something else than Klingon, but the storyline is clearly made for a Klingon. While the fed/Rom storyline support other races. The rom storyline even have unique dialogs for Remans.

    The Fed storyline, it's the oldest one, and it really feel. The first non revamped missions are basically "go there, scan this, beam in and hold for 3m". I'm pretty sure they'll be revamped soon, as they already revamped the tutorial.

    As for why the faction is not played as much, I think it's kind of obvious. The Star treks shows are always focused on the fed side. And the Klingons are depicted as the generic dumb warrior, not really bright, and love to fight. Sometimes they appear a bit more complex, which is good (Worf/Martok for example), but it's quite rare. In most shows, they keep on drinking, and looking for a fight, usually for wrong reasons, and the fed have to convince them they have been tricked (traitor, Romulan, Founder, stupidity, pick one).

    The Romulan are new in STO, and are not shown much on TV, on purpose, as they are the mysterious race.

    Also, obviously, the feds have the Human. We are Human. Most of us don't like to play aliens, so they stick with Humans. That's also why we have so many Human looking Orion/Alien on the KDF side.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    well, my main KDF char is an Orion. And for him I basically write it off as playing along with what the Klingons want to do.
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  • hornet6hornet6 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    After reading this thread, I can only conclude that I must be doing everything wrong.

    I play KDF almost exclusivly. I use the Bortas'qu too almost exclusively. I find it a decent and versatile ship. I grind through the rep missions so I can gain equipment to improve my ship's survivabilty in PVP, which I also frequently engage in. Sparse KDF population makes the faction more, not less, enjoyable.

    I have posted a few criticisms (hopefully constructive) and have made suggestions for improvements I'd like to see (cross faction stf's being one) but I truly believe that the dev's are making a sincere effort to improve the game. I don't care if the devs, or cryptic or PWE make money at the c-store and I hope they do. I am a 700+ day lifer and still sometimes am mocked for being a "noob"

    Worst of all, I have played a male Orion and have put shirts on Orion female BOFFs!

    So, I must be doing something wrong because I still enjoy the game!

    (Mocking criticisms of my posts, content, grammar or spelling are welcome but not required)
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    hornet6 wrote: »
    I play KDF almost exclusivly. I use the Bortas'qu too almost exclusively. I find it a decent and versatile ship. I grind through the rep missions so I can gain equipment to improve my ship's survivabilty in PVP, which I also frequently engage in. Sparse KDF population makes the faction more, not less, enjoyable.
    Apostrophe goes on the end, brother. :P

    I never actually said the Bortasqu' was a bad ship, I just said it was so different from the rest of the lineup that most KDF players couldn't figure out how to use it effectively.
    Worst of all, I have played a male Orion and have put shirts on Orion female BOFFs!
    And I'm the guy who wrote this line for a female Orion in a Foundry mission:
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  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited December 2013
    krovan wrote: »
    There have always been more feds yes.

    I played Klingon at launch, our fleet was massive, we had two other fleets that we were allied with. Our 50 slot vent server was at capacity round the clock.
    We had 7 different pvp channels alone.

    Three months later there were 5 people left, everyone quit after the absolute debacle that Cryptic had perpetrated to Klingon players.
    The trend continued for the better part of the next year, and until featured episodes finally gave us something to do the damage had been done.

    We're there always more feds? Sure.
    But there were a Lot of active Kdf players at the onset, and more would have piled on if promises had been kept.
    Now all the content is there, but the players have moved on.

    -snip-

    This. Cryptic basically screwed things up by undermining the KDF faction from the start. They've driven off a lot of the KDF enthusiasts that might've been willing to play more. That being said, there's probably still time for a 2nd chance, if Cryptic actually puts in the needed work and finishes the KDF, bringing them up to par with the Federation in terms of content, ships, costumes, and whatnot. Then, they need to market it. Loudly broadcast that they've fixed their nearly 4-year old TRIBBLE-up and that KDF has finally been given its due. Make it interesting enough and people will come try it out. They came for the bloody Romulans, and they'll come for the KDF if Cryptic gives the KDF what it needs to actually draw players.
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Member Posts: 3,085 Arc User1
    edited December 2013
    hornet6 wrote: »
    Worst of all, I have played a male Orion and have put shirts on Orion female BOFFs!

    There is a fair number of male players with female Orion characters who never had used metal bikinis.
    Why? Because this outfit is ridiculous and makes sense only on Risa.

    Someone missed fact that all Orions wearing this kind of outfit in shows were either a slavegirls, or posing as ones. Not counting one female pirate in comic, but it was more a casual attire. Pirates are hardly uniform people.
    timezarg wrote: »
    Make it interesting enough and people will come try it out. They came for the bloody Romulans, and they'll come for the KDF if Cryptic gives the KDF what it needs to actually draw players.
    I find KDF more interesting to play, because they are more "space opera" faction. No Prime Directive, less restricted and just flying around blasting things makes more sense for them.
    Federation needs to behave, which is, frankly, kinda boring.
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