Funny, didn't know get 35 when you divide 2500 into 100000. :rolleyes:
Eh Drak said it well enough. :P
You obviously misread, 350 dyson marks traded for 5 commendations per day for a week=35 days worth of commendations. That's almost the entire amount needed to complete the entire rep by being short only 5 commendations which you can get in 5 days of doing the daily alone! 100,000/2500=40.....Get what I was saying now how a simple week of grinding dyson battle zone or missions can net you enough to complete the entire rep structure.
The Battlezone is still a great source of Dilithium and I forsee it it remaining relatively popular even after people finish with the rep. Even with fresh level 50 alts, I've still been able to solo everything except the V-Rex + silos(can usually do one or the other just fine, but my boffs tend to die off too quickly if I try to juggle both). I might die to some cheese every now and then(curse you spec op stunlocking charge spam!), but the content is mostly doable by people who have a good mechanical understanding of the game.
Likewise, I have characters that can take and hold towers by themself in the Contested zone. Mind you, the constant AE spam does get a bit more tedious than the variety you can find in the Battlezone. It also doesn't have the whole dilithium draw the battlezone has either.
Agreed, I get some like 120-250 dyson marks every cycle, and not exactly sure but I think there are some 4-5 missions that reward 480 dilithium per 15-20mins cd, so overall it's not a bad source of marks and dilithium.
The little talked about part of the rep is that you need exactly 40 commendations to advance through the entire thing.
100000/2500
The easiest way to get 40 commendations is to do the 20 hour 350 marks project (it literally takes a half hour to get 350 marks in the battlezone) eight times
So four hours of battlezoning and then logging in once every day for 30 seconds = hard?
This is without doing the little 150 point projects, you could speed it up a LOT depending on how hardcore you want to be in game every hour.
Even better, do the 350 marks for the 5 Commendation only once, and have a 5 day backup for days that can't be played. Meanwhile, you continue to play the daily for the one that you need to use each day.
If the 5 day backup runs out, do it once more. The daily is simply too quick to pass up, not to mention the 60 marks you get for it.
I like the new system, as someone who doesn't get to play 12 hours a day like most here who are complaining it is a BETTER system end of really.
If you didn't play so much you wouldn't have anything negative to say about it, but there are advantages to those who do decide to play more than the average person one of them being the ability to get to T5 much much faster, then using the double xp token also getting their on other characters. I'm only doing the 2,500 one daily (and that's when i log in).
So it will be slower for me but i know in the end it wont be such a grind to enjoy the new items and so it makes the game twice as enjoyable as the previous reputation grinds which i don't even have anything in item wise and probably never will due to the mega grind structure of it all.
I honestly don't see what the problem is, other than complaining its too fast because you play too much so you run out of content to quickly and then have to complain more???
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Why would they nerf it? You still have to wait roughly 34 days just to complete the entire dyson rep system, so it's not like having the ability to gain extra commendations are going to lower that time frame any. The only way to do that is to spend dyson marks for the short timed small rep point reward, and at 150 rep per completion isn't adding a ton of quick rep points!
I'm having a really good time exploring the Dyson space zones and in the Battlezone, I'm having more fun in ground combat than I ever have had in STO before!
And that's what I like most about the Rep: It's transparency. I don't have to play some Logistics Coordinator, spending time earning credits, then making special trips to buy extra commodities, hypos, and regenerators, and then figure out where I'm going to store it, and make trips to the bank, and lots of clicking moving around the inventory and sliding extra sliders, etc. And then having to play Rep-specific content to get the necessary Rep-Currency (Marks, etc.).
With Dyson I just play. I get everything I need (the Commendations, Marks, EC, Expertise, even the Dil for gear) just from playing the new content. I spend a few seconds sliding those into the rep (fewer than the old ones) every hour I'm on (and yeah, on my first toon I'm logging in extra to run more 1hr Projects to gain more Rep XP).
Others may find they want multiple characters done at the same time so they can finish 2 or 10 characters in 35-40days. ETA from Nov 12th then is, Dec 17-24th-ish?
Me? I'm pushing through one character (I'm already past T3, expect to be done around Dec 2nd), then will Rep Sponsor my other toons who will only have to do half the work/time. Best case, I finish in ~20 more days after that, ETA 12/23.
I wouldn't be that far behind (if at all) and overall my efforts will be significantly less.
And if it does take longer (and it will, cuz I'll mostly stop Rep'ing when the Winter Wonderland comes along), I don't care. I'm just playing. I finish whenever I finish. (After my first character ) It's not a race.
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You obviously misread, 350 dyson marks traded for 5 commendations per day for a week=35 days worth of commendations. That's almost the entire amount needed to complete the entire rep by being short only 5 commendations which you can get in 5 days of doing the daily alone! 100,000/2500=40.....Get what I was saying now how a simple week of grinding dyson battle zone or missions can net you enough to complete the entire rep structure.
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Agreed, I get some like 120-250 dyson marks every cycle, and not exactly sure but I think there are some 4-5 missions that reward 480 dilithium per 15-20mins cd, so overall it's not a bad source of marks and dilithium.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Even better, do the 350 marks for the 5 Commendation only once, and have a 5 day backup for days that can't be played. Meanwhile, you continue to play the daily for the one that you need to use each day.
If the 5 day backup runs out, do it once more. The daily is simply too quick to pass up, not to mention the 60 marks you get for it.
If you didn't play so much you wouldn't have anything negative to say about it, but there are advantages to those who do decide to play more than the average person one of them being the ability to get to T5 much much faster, then using the double xp token also getting their on other characters. I'm only doing the 2,500 one daily (and that's when i log in).
So it will be slower for me but i know in the end it wont be such a grind to enjoy the new items and so it makes the game twice as enjoyable as the previous reputation grinds which i don't even have anything in item wise and probably never will due to the mega grind structure of it all.
I honestly don't see what the problem is, other than complaining its too fast because you play too much so you run out of content to quickly and then have to complain more???
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Why would they nerf it? You still have to wait roughly 34 days just to complete the entire dyson rep system, so it's not like having the ability to gain extra commendations are going to lower that time frame any. The only way to do that is to spend dyson marks for the short timed small rep point reward, and at 150 rep per completion isn't adding a ton of quick rep points!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
And that's what I like most about the Rep: It's transparency. I don't have to play some Logistics Coordinator, spending time earning credits, then making special trips to buy extra commodities, hypos, and regenerators, and then figure out where I'm going to store it, and make trips to the bank, and lots of clicking moving around the inventory and sliding extra sliders, etc. And then having to play Rep-specific content to get the necessary Rep-Currency (Marks, etc.).
With Dyson I just play. I get everything I need (the Commendations, Marks, EC, Expertise, even the Dil for gear) just from playing the new content. I spend a few seconds sliding those into the rep (fewer than the old ones) every hour I'm on (and yeah, on my first toon I'm logging in extra to run more 1hr Projects to gain more Rep XP).
Others may find they want multiple characters done at the same time so they can finish 2 or 10 characters in 35-40days. ETA from Nov 12th then is, Dec 17-24th-ish?
Me? I'm pushing through one character (I'm already past T3, expect to be done around Dec 2nd), then will Rep Sponsor my other toons who will only have to do half the work/time. Best case, I finish in ~20 more days after that, ETA 12/23.
I wouldn't be that far behind (if at all) and overall my efforts will be significantly less.
And if it does take longer (and it will, cuz I'll mostly stop Rep'ing when the Winter Wonderland comes along), I don't care. I'm just playing. I finish whenever I finish. (After my first character
See also:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=13559661&postcount=22
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=13593691&postcount=24
You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.