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anazonda
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So this is just an idea, and will most likely never make it into production, but it's still worth mention I think.
So right now, all the uniforms are a mish-mash of randomness all around STO, especially FED side where theres a large selection.
That DOES tend to ruin the concept of "uniform", modern variant of latin for "similar" or "alike" (roughly).
Now being military, I tend to feel horrible when theres nothing Uniform about uniforms, and it's bothering me in STO... it really does.
Now obviously nothing could, or should, be done in regards to players. They've payed for their clothes and should be allowed to use it, but that dosen't mean the rest of Starfleet could'n get a overhaul.
Heres my idea:
Starbases (ESD, Sierra, DS9 and so on): Could use the Jupiter 5 Variant, possibly with the silver and Gold (veteran variants) for flag officer
SFA: Academy Uniforms (duh), both with the Academy (Grey + Profession) and a Full officer layout (Black + Profession and possibly a belt)
Fleet Starbases: This one is obvious. Oddysse Uniform from the fleet tailor
Fleet embassy: Diplomatic Uniform
Fleet Mine: Mercanary uniforms perhaps
Ships: Stock, non-C-Store uniforms
Now I am not even sure it's possible with the current engine setup, but I think it would be nice.
So right now, all the uniforms are a mish-mash of randomness all around STO, especially FED side where theres a large selection.
That DOES tend to ruin the concept of "uniform", modern variant of latin for "similar" or "alike" (roughly).
Now being military, I tend to feel horrible when theres nothing Uniform about uniforms, and it's bothering me in STO... it really does.
Now obviously nothing could, or should, be done in regards to players. They've payed for their clothes and should be allowed to use it, but that dosen't mean the rest of Starfleet could'n get a overhaul.
Heres my idea:
Starbases (ESD, Sierra, DS9 and so on): Could use the Jupiter 5 Variant, possibly with the silver and Gold (veteran variants) for flag officer
SFA: Academy Uniforms (duh), both with the Academy (Grey + Profession) and a Full officer layout (Black + Profession and possibly a belt)
Fleet Starbases: This one is obvious. Oddysse Uniform from the fleet tailor
Fleet embassy: Diplomatic Uniform
Fleet Mine: Mercanary uniforms perhaps
Ships: Stock, non-C-Store uniforms
Now I am not even sure it's possible with the current engine setup, but I think it would be nice.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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Yea, but wouldn working out specific uniforms, for specific areas be the first step towards that?
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They were supposed to have that live by now. And with 'by now' I mean around Fleet Starbase launch.
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No kidding... But you and I both know Cryptic uses all the uniforms to show off the C-Store items...
lol all the Cstore out fit are TV show one so i got to ask what are they showing off?
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What they are selling?
Theres a reason commercials exist, you know? Don't tell you actually beleive that people think: "Oh my gosh... what should I buy in STO today? Better watch a episode of Star Trek to figure it out"...
Cause that would be silly.
i was trying to say all the outfits NPC use are free only cstore ones are from the show
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Wouldn't work for me. My captain has a unique uniform (to mark her as the captain). And my security officer's backstory has him as a former MP from a minor species in the TRIBBLE end of nowhere who has special permission to wear his old uniform (ref: Worf's bandolier).
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O'Rly?
- Jupiter Uniform?
- Academy Uniform?
- Mercanary Set?
- Formal?
- Klingon Academy?
- KDF Enviromental Suit?
Never seen any of those in the show... Seen NPC's wearing them... All C-Store.
Non-uniformity across the game has nothing to do with C-store and everything to do with the fact that no MMO in the world is going to succeed with zero character customization.
Add on to it that everyone and their mother has a different idea of what Star trek is. Some love DS9, Some love Voyager (yes, there are fans of Voyager out there), Some love Enterprise (well, I am guessing), and some grew up on the Original Series. Each wanting to emulate that Star Trek, and the idea of not having that (and the fact that many of the playerbase hate the original concept uniforms, especially the free ones) would most likely kill this game. So I doubt you will ever get uniformity across the game.
That said, Many people have longed to have some way to set the uniforms of your bridge crew so they aren't out of place with your Boffs, who all have the same uniform.
I totally support this, and supposedly it is something Cryptic is exploring or looking into, but we will see if it ever comes into reality.
think your missing my point is that 90% of all NPC use the one you see on ESD ask for KDF i dont care for KDF so i pay them no mind at all and if you still think im wrong go to your ship other then boff what is the NPC using its not any thing you just listed
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You seem to misunderstand me: I fully accept that a game needs to earn on all elements...
I am simply saying that you can do this, while making seperate areas have seperate Uniform themes..
The "You will be able to customize your normal ship crew" is vaporware... It will never happen, because Cryptic can't make money on it, but if it happens, it will be something a newbie dev has done to get to know the code.
It's simply the thought that you steam-line the uniforms in different areas, so that they can still show of the C-Store uniforms, but maintain a sense of actualy uniforms.
Just like the Forces (all forces) have specific uniforms for specific tasks...
I mean, I have a Uniform for Parades, A Uniform for Light Duty, A Uniform for Light Field duty and a Uniform for Heavy Field duty... They each look quite different.
When we wear our uniforms, the one we chose is based on the when, where and how... it's not random clutter.
All I am saying is that it would seem natural here too.
And on that, I agree with you. Which is where the bridge crew comes into play, because many in the playerbase find it mildly annoying that you work very hard to come up with a uniform for you and your bridge crew, but then you go on your ship and everyone else is running around with a completely different uniform (not to mention that is is usually one of the atares ones, which again the general playerbase all agree is the ugliest uniform in the whole game).
So basically, I am agreeing with you. I am all for uniformity, as long as the uniformity of my ship crew doesn't have to match the uniformity of your ship crew (or you know, anyone elses).
As for Fleet bases, I would say the NPCs should be wearing whatever the Fleet uniform is.
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Maybe it is, but I still think it is...
We've heard that "they are looking into it" for god knows how long, and it's buissness value is just too low compared to the benefits it provides...
Development wise, it's probably in the "top 10-wait till there is really nothing else to do's".
There is no way they could practically implement a feature where they could make money off this, except if they made it a C-Store only option... and we all know how that would end.
So as long as theres something else, they can make money off... It's not going to happen, unless they need to teach a new dev how the code works, and even then, only if he is entirely inexpirienced and can't be tasked with something that will earn them money.
That's just how development works.
I don't think it innately has to be monetized, remember nothing makes more money the happy costumers. That said, I do agree, it is a low priority. Plus I imagine it isn't as simple as we think, which means it probably takes more resources. So yeah, not going to happen any time soon.
You don't assign the fleet uniform from the tailor... You just build it there.
Once your character has a uniform that you want to use as Fleet Uniform, exit the tailor, wear said uniform, and then go to the fleet UI.
From there you can set it to be fleet uniform.
we have fleet uniforms.. it would be nice if the npcs on the base wore them..
also i have a TOS captain, that is in a TOS uniform, as well as his bridge officers.. but everyone else in my ship seem to be wearing the standard kdf uniform
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But i think somebody else did point out its not so simple, as the NPCs are just random generated from a pool of avalible faction parts and species , like hitting Random in the foundry cotume designer or tailor
At one point they did but now I see 2409 standard unis when I visit that bridge.