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Battle Group Omega, a map that needs a revisit
rahmkota19
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Well, anyone ever going to Battle Group Omega knows its value.
Bank, exchange, mail, and that in space!
But the map needs some work on. Here are my issues with it.
1. The contacts still mention marks of valour. I have been in this game ever since February 2012, but I never encountered them. Some wiki search prooved that they don't exist anymore. So why is there a contact still explaining their use? Would be similar to having an officer on every ship explaining how to use your phase cannons and photonic torpedoes (Enterprise era).
2. Where is the Romulan Republic? Although the Republic is a faction in full build-up and can't nearly spend as much recourses as the Federation and the KDF fighting the Borg threat, the Republic is involved in the fight. Borg invasions in Tau Dewa happen quite frequently (although the Tholians always kick their collective TRIBBLE), the Republic is as much threatened by the Collective as Starfleet/KDF. Wouldn't it be more, I don't know, logical if there were some Ha'apaxes and Dhelans flying between the U.S.S. Victory and the I.K.S. Chang? Including them in Battle Group Omega would also finally mean some use for that silly, silly transwarp gate now orbiting Mol'Rihan, or New Romulus. It has to go somewhere, doesn't it?
3. It's time to move the transwarp conduit in this map. Right now it is directly behind the Starfleet strike force. It would be more fair to place it somewhere between Starfleet and the KDF. Preferably behind the Republic's flotilla, which would be between Starfleet and the KDF (for obvious reasons such as their alliance with both parties etc.).
4. Maybe, maybe, maybe add a few new ships to the group. The Galaxy-X and the Vo'Quv that form the flagships of both fleets are now outclassed by the faction flagships, being the Oddysey and the Bortas'qu classes. To see some of the newer ships in this map would be cool imo.
So, what are your 2 ec's about this subject? Discuss.
Bank, exchange, mail, and that in space!
But the map needs some work on. Here are my issues with it.
1. The contacts still mention marks of valour. I have been in this game ever since February 2012, but I never encountered them. Some wiki search prooved that they don't exist anymore. So why is there a contact still explaining their use? Would be similar to having an officer on every ship explaining how to use your phase cannons and photonic torpedoes (Enterprise era).
2. Where is the Romulan Republic? Although the Republic is a faction in full build-up and can't nearly spend as much recourses as the Federation and the KDF fighting the Borg threat, the Republic is involved in the fight. Borg invasions in Tau Dewa happen quite frequently (although the Tholians always kick their collective TRIBBLE), the Republic is as much threatened by the Collective as Starfleet/KDF. Wouldn't it be more, I don't know, logical if there were some Ha'apaxes and Dhelans flying between the U.S.S. Victory and the I.K.S. Chang? Including them in Battle Group Omega would also finally mean some use for that silly, silly transwarp gate now orbiting Mol'Rihan, or New Romulus. It has to go somewhere, doesn't it?
3. It's time to move the transwarp conduit in this map. Right now it is directly behind the Starfleet strike force. It would be more fair to place it somewhere between Starfleet and the KDF. Preferably behind the Republic's flotilla, which would be between Starfleet and the KDF (for obvious reasons such as their alliance with both parties etc.).
4. Maybe, maybe, maybe add a few new ships to the group. The Galaxy-X and the Vo'Quv that form the flagships of both fleets are now outclassed by the faction flagships, being the Oddysey and the Bortas'qu classes. To see some of the newer ships in this map would be cool imo.
So, what are your 2 ec's about this subject? Discuss.
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and what the heck is the point of that transwarp anyways? Or the guardian of forever energy signal in orbit of both homeworlds?
2. I'm not sure the Republic has a big enough fleet yet to have a permenant presence with Omega, they'd probably rely more on KDF- and Fed-aligned Republic officers stationed on the allied ships already there.
3. I think the Transwarp gate has to do with allowing Fleet members under level fifty a way to get to New Romulus and the Fleet Embassy, I'm not sure...
4. Considering that we never really see Battle Group Omega in action, I don't really think it matters what they look like. Most of the time, I don't even "Join Battle Group Omega" anyway, I just use the gate to transwarp directly to Gamma Orionis.
5. The 'Guardian of Forever energy signal' is the time/space distortion leading to the Captain's Table, an LTS-only social map.
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With that said, i agree the map needs revisiting and more ships need adding with a focus of frigates and scout ships, there are enough battleships if you ask me, the fleet just needs fleshing out with lesser ships.
The Captain's Table is a reward for subscribing for 400 days so it is not a LTS-only social map. Although, only LTS could visit it for the first year.
But if they were to update it, I would like it to be like the Romulan flotilla, where we beam to the victory, and can see some of the ships out in the window, and use banks and stuff inside.
At one point, it was the place players would use to resupply/repair and such when we fought the borg in Gamma Orionis (Pre-Transwarp) (pre F2P Days... when you had to form a team in Zone Chat), and enter the mission from orbit of the actual mission site (I really do miss those days) . When the STF's were split up, and moved to the queues this place lost its purpose... really the only reason to go there now is for the Borg Officer from the Assimilated Accolade.
Same thing I now feel about DS9.... when the Borg Store moved to the Rep System... DS9 lost its main purpose.
Shame really.
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That would be interesting. It could be something like the events on Nimbus III, only at Battle Group Omega. That would certainly attracts some attention from players. I think "Transwarp to Battle Group Omega" should be added to Tier I Omega Force Reputation.
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See, I'd actually prefer it if the bank, exchange, and mail were moved to a ground map representing the U.S.S. Victory. D'Vak and roxy could be relocated there, along with NPC versions of the current Battle Group Omega contacts.
Yikes. If that's true, the dialogue definitely needs to be cleaned up.
Omega Force is supposed to be multi-faction, so I say mix the KDF and Starfleet ships together as a joint fleet, and sprinkle in some Romulan Republic ships in good measure.
One last thing: the lighting on the Battle Group Omega space map is...not flattering to any ship.
Edit: I always figured the location of Battle Group Omega is a closely guarded secret (I think there's some dialogue about that astroid field/moon helping to conceal the fleet) and that the entire sector block has been seized by the Borg - at this point the transwarp gate is the only way to get in and out of the sector block "safely." Shame about all those Federation colonies and starbases in the area.
As for beaming to the victory: I kinda use this map as my main hub because its not overcrowded and my computer isnt up to specs. So an overcrowded ground map isnt something i would agree on, but if that is what it takes, then its fine for me.
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Pretty much since the stf's moved into the queue's...
Not sure what they could do to improve it, as it is pretty much obsolete now.
Close proximity to the fleet dilithium mines and the Vlugta mines also argues in its favor.
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I can fill you in on one thing, if you read the message that pop up, which if you read deep enough to discover mentions of old marks I don't understand how you missed the battle group was set up by Starfleet, for Starfleet and the Klingons came along uninvited, it would make no sense whatsoever to move the gate. Now what would have made more sense is the KDF to have put their own gate there, but you know.
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Thanks for claring that up. A KDF gate would work as well.
So, anybody else has some imput?
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Yeah, only reason I ever go there is to either go to B'Tran or to do the 'Defeat the Borg in the Gamma Orionis Sector Block' mission with the floating enemy encounters in the block.
Considering it's where the Gorn are located (Cestus system, TOS "Arena") and Wrath of Khan took place (Mutara Nebula), you'd think they could do something with the area...
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That will only just make dreadnought cruiser captains everywhere whinge for such functions on their own ships! Don't make that mistake!
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Maybe its time to add some new missions to Gamma Orionis? Maybe a "Patrol Gamma Orionis Sector Block" for 60 Omega Marks (75 during event)? Some new missions in the Borg campaign?
A lack of vendors in this map could be one of the problems finished off during an update. Some ships selling components. A repair guy (for when you fly your ship apart in Hive Onslaught) could also be a nice add-on.
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really??? People like you need a smack.
I haven't gone to BGO since they removed dilithium from B'Tran exploration. Now that I'm thinking about it, it may be good to stop by since it's a nice hub in the middle of Sirius.
That would be a huge battle. A couple of Unimatrix Command ships at the end like Into the Hive, very nice.
Phaser Lance should get a [Borg] bonus proc. Just sayin. Agreed.
Not so fast. A unique 25th century style Galaxy class interior could be a big seller and a bonus for all of those that have a G-X. Something based heavily on the All Good Things interior upgrade, but with all the love and care that goes with the Romulan ship interior. Cryptic has already said they're going to revamp FEd side to bring it in line with the new Legacy of Romulus content and new interiors were on the agenda for that. Battlegroup Omega stuff could be on their Radar. If they don't want to add it to al Galaxy X owners automatically, then perhaps offer them a discount versus people who want to by the interior outright.