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Can we just add Hangers to ALL ships and call this "Carriers Online"?
newromulan1
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So the new Tactical Romulan Warbird gets a hanger added to it totally out of the blue - like wham slap a hanger on that escort.
So I figure why not at least add 1 hanger to all ships and those that have a hanger get bumped up to 2 hangers - seems reasonable?
I really am going to need someone to detail just how to use a carrier well as I still have no idea.
And since the game is going full carrier's online it better be quick!!
We have a new FE coming soon that will award a carrier - perhaps the next C-store ship for season 8 will be like a super carrier with like 4 hanger bays - spawning like a whole fleet.
Or I know - why not just have a ship so big that it launches 2 full sized T5 starships as pets?? That would be cool!!
So I figure why not at least add 1 hanger to all ships and those that have a hanger get bumped up to 2 hangers - seems reasonable?
I really am going to need someone to detail just how to use a carrier well as I still have no idea.
And since the game is going full carrier's online it better be quick!!
We have a new FE coming soon that will award a carrier - perhaps the next C-store ship for season 8 will be like a super carrier with like 4 hanger bays - spawning like a whole fleet.
Or I know - why not just have a ship so big that it launches 2 full sized T5 starships as pets?? That would be cool!!
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We already have those...bops, the jhas pet and the Tholians have one as well all 3 have like 30K hull with more tac abilities than a lot of the ship's we actually fly lol
lol ... why not go all the way and call it WYSIWYG?
I am serious though - like I feel left out or something because I don't have a ship with a hanger - like I'm a old man who has not gotten a cell phone yet and I still use a typewriter.
Are carriers the new way of the game and I am just like the old folk left behind?
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not bad, not bad dear sir
Carriers are the flavor of the month. A year from now it might be broadsiders. Who knows.
Yes I saw that - it just seems like most ships these days are getting hangers - what is so amazing about hangers? I don't know how to use one - don't know if I want one - it's scary!!
P.S. Was a carrier ever shown on TV or in a movie - just seems kind of battlestar Galactica to me?
As far as the game being too BSG, you have to take STO for what it is: a game slightly based on Trek. I stopped thinking of STO as being consistent or logical when the Excelsior was released in August of 2010 and was the best Tac Cruiser in the game for years.
Strictly speaking I think a great many starships should have a hangar pet or two. Most of the cruisers would qualify especially. Something like the Intrepid launching a Delta Flyer for example. It's one way to revamp the Galaxy IMO, and if ships like the Vesta can launch Danube runabouts then so should my Sovvie-refit.
EDIT I'm not seriously suggesting this btw.
I am still waiting to fly the Tactical Cube... Hardcore Regen, Inviso Death Torps, can shoot in any direction, shield dissapator, super tachyon beams, hit points in the millions, you get the idea.
Don't tempt them, they might actually do that if it would sell.
and its still not enough it still blows chunks
thats ubsurd thats like saying dont compare it to the BAR the bar has been set and it is named fleet ships (and some c store ships) all others just end up with you in tears
As for flipping out about getting more carriers... the vast majority of ships actualy have a hanger bay or 3 and should in theory be able to launch some form of support craft from shuttle with built in boarding party to repair craft. We already have the consumeable fighters from The vault and thats what all ships with a shuttle bay should get a stack of consumeables and a slot to put them in. just more variety in them.
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And yes it does seem like an after thought this hanger business. Then again the new design is boring and as generic as hell. I could design better and I'm not kidding either.
I don't think canon matters anymore as we never saw a carrier in action in on screen - so technically any ship could act in the way these new "hangers" do.
I think the Fed HEC - was the only true "carrier" like ship describe in canon with launching fighters out the front and returning in the rear.
So really they could add a "hanger" to all ships.
The Scimitar should definitely have 2 hangers - the thing is as big as a planet - no good reason not to have 2 hangers.
Don't go all balance on me - when was balance a "good reason":D Just saying!
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There's a FE coming out to bridge the storyline from the tier 4/5 New Romulus missions to season 8's events, official ETA is "late September" giving them pretty narrow window. Reward is a full carrier from, "an ancient mysterious race that uses subspace technology and may have connections to the Iconians."
Since i hate Carriers and Escorts equally, just adding Hangars on all ships would just speed up the inevitable. So why not, let's do it so we can go on and finally introduce something more typical for a Star Trek game.
Cruisers and Sci's could have a hangar. Escorts are too small to support them (i think). Could give cruisers and Sci's a decent damage boost. There are parsings of pets doing 5k of the total dps.
Just wish the lag wasn't there...
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lol you called it true...those 3 pack ships barely sold , i think about 1 guy in the 3 fleets im in actually got them ..such a bust .
i think this is the first time ever they actually add a feature to a ship after its even being handed to the testers.
now plz cryptic can i have my full blown 2 hanger carrier ? :P
wel......
the difference between seeing it on screen and supposed to is a big difference..
the creators of sto, never invisioned carrier type ships in the creation of trek, (as we never saw it..)..
the guy at ILm designed the akira to be a carrier, but cbs and paramount and the powers to be rejected that.. and even had the forward hanger bay reskinned to not look like a hanger..
khazon, well thats all i have to say on that one.. (and once again, never saw it in action.. i mean i guess if were playing the assumption game, we could call the niagra, or the new orleans a carrier while were at it.. (which they were clearly not)
and.... perrigrine fighters have warp capabilities.. infact.. every single time i saw one on screen, they were usually bigger than a runabout..
while right now, i am flying an akira class, and using the hangar bays.. (not cause i like it, but cause im sick of getting complaints in stf's and what not that im somehow lacking in dps cause i chose not to use it..) but i felt the carrier system is not needed.. it causes balance issues, headaches, and is taking up all sorts of develpments time..
but alas, some of you are correct in saying that this game is less and less a star trek game, and more cryptics interpretation of star trek.. which is a shame, and why most "star trek" fans have left.. im not saying all, but im involved in a bunch of fan clubs numbering hundreds to thousands, and almost all of the peeps i know from them, dont play anymore.. most of the posts i see in those websites about sto are not friendly towards the game..
the only, and i repeat, the only reason i play, is because i ignore the game itself, and try to do my own thing most of the time.. pretending that cryptic's TRIBBLE doesnt exist, and i ignore most of the player base.. that, and the game is so nice in 3d, lol.. i used to be one of those players that said, the next season is gonna fix it.. or the first expansion is gonna fix it.. well.. everyone got bored waiting for the season (which still isnt coming) to fix it all, and their first expansion was a flop... oh well. back to my corner.. lol...
I'll simply say what I always say: Trek was written by Hollywood writers, not scientists. Trek's ships were created by artists, not engineers. Trek is whatever any given writer wants to make it in any given episode, all entirely dependent on budget for that episode. Thus when ships went CGI rather then model you started seeing things like Peregrines being used - because no one wanted to make 50 Peregrine models and have to black-shoot them pre-CGI era.
And finally I'll simply point out that CBS had to approve the use of Carriers in STO. Cryptic can't just do what they want. CBS gets to vet everything added to this game: every mission, every uniform, every race, and every ship. So if STO is turning into Carriers Online that's as much CBS's fault as it is Cryptic's.
May I remind you that the carrier craze first started with the angry Feds who got owned in PVP by the Klingon carriers and who then begged the devs for a fed carrier. After the atrox and the heavy escort carrier were released, it was only logical that the Romulan fans would also beg for their own carriers. So here we are today with people begging for carriers and Cryptic satisfying that hunger but it all started with the Feds whining about it.