I wouldn't count on that. RR already has 3 tac ships. This one... needs something to seperate it from the rest. Having a slightly different boff layout isn't adequate for that.
If there had been a Fleet version, it would have been enough for some. As is, without the Fleet version...it simply isn't.
Cryptic needs to realize how far behind non-Fleet/Lockbox ships are in general...
...adding a hangar to this still won't make it comparable.
However, if they add a Fleet version after doing this...meh...it still won't be comparable, it will be over the top.
So they decided to make it an escort carrier...that figures.
Now here's the $64,000 question: are you going to add a 2nd hangar bay to the Romulan Dreadnoughts so they have the same pet capacity as the Atrox, Vo'Quv, Kar'Fi, Recluse, and Jem'Hadar Dreadnought?
No KDF love? No major bug fixes? Let me know soon so I can leave War Thunder and come back to STO, give me something to spend money on.
I to play WT after i finish setting DOFF assignments and grind my dil for the day then set a rep to upgrade then im off to WT.
No bug fixes still no love for the KDF a new escort carrier that i dont think anyone wanted in the first place......same old cryptic.
Let me know when you actually fix something or ad something players actually asked for until then and since the before mentioned tasks are done im off to WT
Bran already answered this for me, Drones are exclusive for Scim :-(
Drones are frigate class pets. As will ALL other frigate class pets, they can only be launched from their specific mother ship.
JHDC > JAS
Quv > BoP
Karfi > Fer'Jai
Recluse > Weaver
Scim > Drone
Atrox > ?
?You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time. But you can never please all of the people all of the time.?
Lack of a hangar isn't the reason I decided not to purchase the new warbird, its because of the boff layout and lack of a fleet version. Why not just listen to the feedback on tribble when many of us said we didn't like the boff layout, mainly the ensign engineer should have been swapped with the sci Lt so if we used the Lt Cmdr universal as sci we would still have at least lt engineering. It still would have been a new unique boff layout, and the universal would actually be useable in something other then eng. The Lt Cmdr universal with the current boff layout is a false universal since it has to be used as engineering. If I have to have Lt Cmdr eng I don't want an extra ensign eng station either I rather have that as sci.
I am sick of false universal stations, all ships need minimum of Lt in sci and eng, why don't you ship design devs try playing a ship without at least Lt in sci and eng in pvp or No Win and see how long you last.
No reason to get this ship still when I can get the boff layouts I need in my Mogai, Scimitar, Dhelan and Tvaro.
Since ships can be changed after release, why not fix the boff layout if you want this to sell to this:
I will buy either of those, but not the current version even though it has a hangar now and still won't even if a fleet upgrade is released unless it has a different boff layout.
After what? 2 weeks after release they added a hangar? we already have a Tactical Warbird Carrier, its called "Scimitar" that at this point I am going to ask were the hell is the 2nd hangar? Because before fine ... only Romulan Carrier and not true Carrier but now the same no longer applies does it?
I repeat, the problem with this ship is its a 4th Tactical Warbird and the Romulans are LITERALLY tripping in those, they DONT NEED ANOTHER ... they need Support ships and cruisers and what they made? This ... adding a hangar will not change a thing.
considering how many I saw today... Obviously some people use them. :P
Guys, for all of you unhappy with the changes they're making to the Ar'kif Retrofit, get over it. I see the Ar'Kif's change as the Romulan equivalent of the Federation's Heavy Escort Carrier. I just don't get the fact that people a couple of months ago were complaining that the Romulans had a lack of ships. It'll take time for them to add ships to the game.
To those going on about how the lock box ships outclassing other ships: Get over it. Not everyone has the money (or the patience to grind EC) for the ships. The ships right now that the Republic have are carry overs from the Empire.
Just one thing to add: Both the Scimitar and this ship can cloak. This one is a cheaper alternative.
I repeat, the problem with this ship is its a 4th Tactical Warbird and the Romulans are LITERALLY tripping in those, they DONT NEED ANOTHER ... they need Support ships and cruisers and what they made? This ... adding a hangar will not change a thing.
People were asking for more ships - support and cruisers will eventually come. Romulans have small number of ships so there is no point in complaining when new ship comes.
So ehm, why does every new ship need to be a carrier?
Really, I don't get it. I don't like it, either. I'm fine with having a couple of carriers in game, but at this rate, it won't be long before non-carriers are becoming a dying breed, because the additional pet dps/spam/debuffs are starting to be a requirement to compete.
How about the next, say, 5 or 6 ships not be able to launch carrier pests?
If you can't get in the game I doubt that is PWE or Cryptic's fault. Seeing as there are loads of folks having zero issues logging in. I would contact your ISP and make sure your router isn't blocking the ports used by STO first. If you use a firewall like Zone Alarm or something similar make sure it isn't blocking the launcher or the game itself from contacting the server. I had this problem with Zone Alarm with a few games. I had to go into the program list and allow STO to use the net. My launcher connected fine though, just the game could not pull up my characters and timed out; all due to my firewall blocking the game from access to the internet.
I do like the looks of the new Romulan ships but to me they're quite similar to the Mogai as far as stats go. A hangar isn't a selling point for me but I still think it's an overkill.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the KDF "supposed" to be the carrier race? And yet, they lack an HEC and a Sci-escort-carrier (Vesta Class)...
Yeah, KDF does have the only flight deck carrier, but still, that's a cruiser with single hangar deck... And KDF "could" get the lockbox J'H HEC, but still, why don't the carrier lovers have their own carriers?
And now there's yet another highly tactical HEC-type ship showing up, from the other race that's supposed to be a bit more sciency than warlike...
Ready to support a petition to have a battle cloaking LEC (Light Escort Carrier based on the BoP)? :P
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
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Would you please suggest to the Devs to have a "Bug Bash"? There are a lot of bugs many of us have been complaining about for months that just aren't getting fixed (that we know of.) We submit bug reports, and we get no response. We ask for help to the "customer service" and they just tell us to submit a bug report, which seem to be a black hole.
And if in the off chance that someone from PWE actually communicates about a known problem, they just make promises like it'll be fixed "in the near future", but we don't hear anything for months at a time (if ever after the initial promise.)
First time poster, but I have to ask my self why ppl do not want updates. All software needs it over time. please stop complaining and embrace the changes... and live with it. STO is linear enough already, I look forward to any change. TIA
First time poster, but I have to ask my self why ppl do not want updates. All software needs it over time. please stop complaining and embrace the changes... and live with it. STO is linear enough already, I look forward to any change. TIA
On the contrary. People WANT updates. Like fixing tailor crash, missiing boffs on their stations and tons of others. Instead of this we get new icons and a hangar to a ship which does not need one.
First time poster, but I have to ask my self why ppl do not want updates. All software needs it over time. please stop complaining and embrace the changes... and live with it. STO is linear enough already, I look forward to any change. TIA
People do want updates, just different ones than they're giving us. We'd rather they spend dev time fixing bugs instead of introducing unnecessary gimmicks.
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LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
If there had been a Fleet version, it would have been enough for some. As is, without the Fleet version...it simply isn't.
Cryptic needs to realize how far behind non-Fleet/Lockbox ships are in general...
...adding a hangar to this still won't make it comparable.
However, if they add a Fleet version after doing this...meh...it still won't be comparable, it will be over the top.
Why can't there be a happy medium?
Now here's the $64,000 question: are you going to add a 2nd hangar bay to the Romulan Dreadnoughts so they have the same pet capacity as the Atrox, Vo'Quv, Kar'Fi, Recluse, and Jem'Hadar Dreadnought?
I to play WT after i finish setting DOFF assignments and grind my dil for the day then set a rep to upgrade then im off to WT.
No bug fixes still no love for the KDF a new escort carrier that i dont think anyone wanted in the first place......same old cryptic.
Let me know when you actually fix something or ad something players actually asked for until then and since the before mentioned tasks are done im off to WT
Good day
JHDC > JAS
Quv > BoP
Karfi > Fer'Jai
Recluse > Weaver
Scim > Drone
Atrox > ?
?You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time. But you can never please all of the people all of the time.?
I am sick of false universal stations, all ships need minimum of Lt in sci and eng, why don't you ship design devs try playing a ship without at least Lt in sci and eng in pvp or No Win and see how long you last.
No reason to get this ship still when I can get the boff layouts I need in my Mogai, Scimitar, Dhelan and Tvaro.
Since ships can be changed after release, why not fix the boff layout if you want this to sell to this:
Cmdr Tac
Lt Tac
Lt Eng
Ensign sci
Lt Cmdr Universal
or this:
Cmdr Tac
Lt Tac
Lt Cmdr sci
Lt Universal
Ensign Universal
I will buy either of those, but not the current version even though it has a hangar now and still won't even if a fleet upgrade is released unless it has a different boff layout.
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To those going on about how the lock box ships outclassing other ships: Get over it. Not everyone has the money (or the patience to grind EC) for the ships. The ships right now that the Republic have are carry overs from the Empire.
Just one thing to add: Both the Scimitar and this ship can cloak. This one is a cheaper alternative.
People were asking for more ships - support and cruisers will eventually come. Romulans have small number of ships so there is no point in complaining when new ship comes.
Really, I don't get it. I don't like it, either. I'm fine with having a couple of carriers in game, but at this rate, it won't be long before non-carriers are becoming a dying breed, because the additional pet dps/spam/debuffs are starting to be a requirement to compete.
How about the next, say, 5 or 6 ships not be able to launch carrier pests?
If you can't get in the game I doubt that is PWE or Cryptic's fault. Seeing as there are loads of folks having zero issues logging in. I would contact your ISP and make sure your router isn't blocking the ports used by STO first. If you use a firewall like Zone Alarm or something similar make sure it isn't blocking the launcher or the game itself from contacting the server. I had this problem with Zone Alarm with a few games. I had to go into the program list and allow STO to use the net. My launcher connected fine though, just the game could not pull up my characters and timed out; all due to my firewall blocking the game from access to the internet.
Yeah, KDF does have the only flight deck carrier, but still, that's a cruiser with single hangar deck... And KDF "could" get the lockbox J'H HEC, but still, why don't the carrier lovers have their own carriers?
And now there's yet another highly tactical HEC-type ship showing up, from the other race that's supposed to be a bit more sciency than warlike...
Ready to support a petition to have a battle cloaking LEC (Light Escort Carrier based on the BoP)? :P
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
Cheers,
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Would you please suggest to the Devs to have a "Bug Bash"? There are a lot of bugs many of us have been complaining about for months that just aren't getting fixed (that we know of.) We submit bug reports, and we get no response. We ask for help to the "customer service" and they just tell us to submit a bug report, which seem to be a black hole.
And if in the off chance that someone from PWE actually communicates about a known problem, they just make promises like it'll be fixed "in the near future", but we don't hear anything for months at a time (if ever after the initial promise.)
Oh, and how about a "STO: The Great Bug Bash" as a Featured Episode?
IF YOU ARE READING MY SIG - THEN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG
Featured episode. That should be coming out next week, should it not?
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They put the ship on tribble for feedback.
Players submitted feedback.
Feedback was ignored.
The ship was launched, maybe I saw 1 here or there, not the usual flood of new ship purchases most likely.
This is what happens when you ignore feedback that tells you very clearly that there is an issue with a particular (virtual) product.
People do want updates, just different ones than they're giving us. We'd rather they spend dev time fixing bugs instead of introducing unnecessary gimmicks.
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