Your entire build... I... I... You really should rethink it...
And yeah, I agree, you just lost all credibility. Period. Probably permanently... In all honesty... yeah, I feel your scimitar is more an insult to the ship than proof it's good...
It's a good thing I live to impress people online and be credible with them.
But that's fine feel how you want. I've dumped enough money into the game at this point to warrant playing it how I want.
I have something that works very well for me in PVE and for me that's just fine. But I'm glad you're so much better than me.
Let's all remember the guy who started this thread doesn't even own a Scimitar.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
great for PvE it seems although hard to control with others also involved - but I think this was just for show? PvP of course would be another matter with a fast moving escort coming up behind.
Hey, you managed to get past the thread title. A dalek behind me kept making threats... "Disriminate! Disriminate!" I feared for my... rim.
Scimitars started out really fragile until folks got the hang of them. There's still a few dodgy ones but generally I see them doing loads of damage. If there's any downside it is getting tangled in one warping between sectors. I've been juggled to top then bottom then top of the zone, at least until it fled. The coolest scims are the few with thalaron pulses. Once you're sure it's not aimed at yourself then you shoot for as much threat and lockdown as possible -- fire everything. No doubt the scimitar player spent quite a bit on it, so let's make it a party! Quick game's a good game.
the real art of dpsing is to keep over 15k dps in a 9 minute battle when everybody else is doing <3k.
4 minute battle with 2 others above 10k, is normally an indicator that the 20k guy was spamming a2b infused BFAW.
this is not a critique, i'm just trying to explain why and how those numbers come to be, based on personal experiance.
and @ newromulan1: the romulan beams, once the store for them is unlocked only cost refined dilithium...there is only the unique romulan experimental beam that cost dilithium and 500 marks.
People are slamming this, but not saying what the problem is.
1. More than one torpedo is too much. You have the mines already, drop the torps for more beams. Or choose one Torp and drop the other torp and the mines for more beams.(Just because it CAN mount cannons doesn't mean it SHOULD)
2. Tactical consoles should be buffing your energy damage of choice(In this case, Disruptor). Shift the universals to Engineering and Science. Yes, that'll mean taking off the Field Generators and potentially one Universal. You'll have to make a choice on this one given how many universals you have.
That's what I see at least. Can't see your bridge officers for whatever reason.
I love my scimitar, totally worth the money, it has insane turn rate and fire power, and can use cloak free at will meaning it is defensive as heck aswell! I love goin' into KASE and pulling 20k+ dps thru the whole stf(current dps record thru the whole stf is 22.7k dps donatra included in the timer, and that is only my personal record with my casual turn rate dps build), and also in pvp, I love to get the comments when I kill 3 enemies from the enemy team only in 30 seconds of alpha in premades its usually 1-2 players dead depending how they react to my decloak. and I don't even use beam overloads or anything like that. I'm on top of damage board on 95% of the pvp matches and possiply 75% on pve matches due to me actually knowing better people in PvE community than in pvp community.
Problems with thalaron hitting low amount of damage? thalaron is boosted by partigens, aux, apa, apo, tf, gdf, gamma etc, if you dont use any of those abilities or debuff enemy resistance you ain't gonna do sheet on your enemy, when you use thalaron, your only enemy is SNB and scramble sensors love the 360K crtiz on 10 guys! and if you dont know when to use the ability, practice with the momboss wave disruptors first, or the guramba javelin, or the kumari overload or galaxy lance, they all can deal sheet ton of dmg and 1 shot when used properly, you failing at using those is not my problem, just shut up and learn to play.
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I have to strongly disagree with you on the cloaking damage boost part
The 25% boost is to all damage not base ALL damage so I cloak wait 5 seconds then when I de cloak I get 15 seconds of 25% boost I can't see you doing that sort of damage in 5 seconds
You do know there duty officers that increase the damage that you do while cloaked right,,, Oh wait you disagree because you don't have the ship never tried it ...I have it and I hit very hard while cloaked... With the Duty officer Bonuses... If the player has the right set up he can hit you hard .....
the real art of dpsing is to keep over 15k dps in a 9 minute battle when everybody else is doing <3k.
4 minute battle with 2 others above 10k, is normally an indicator that the 20k guy was spamming a2b infused BFAW.
this is not a critique, i'm just trying to explain why and how those numbers come to be, based on personal experiance.
and @ newromulan1: the romulan beams, once the store for them is unlocked only cost refined dilithium...there is only the unique romulan experimental beam that cost dilithium and 500 marks.
While someone else is spamming BFAW with APB3 making everything super soft. I always say show me a log with base damage numbers and we'll see the real story.
While someone else is spamming BFAW with APB3 making everything super soft. I always say show me a log with base damage numbers and we'll see the real story.
what i meant was, that combat parsers in general can only give you a DPS value based on the duration of a fight...which means the fight duration is a crucual component in the calculation.
and in grp content, the duration of a fight depends on the performance of your team.
a DPS meter for instance takes the outgoing dmg and adjusts it each second, which leaves the effective time of the whole fight out of the equation. making it actually more accurate for comparison.
BFAW spam does not actually inflate your dps, since it definately hits a target and deals dmg even if that target heals it away again...
what really inflates the dps numbers in all combat parsers is the logged duration of the fight. If you play solo, those numbers are "untainted"...but once you go grp the performance of your teammate is as important as your own to keep the numbers high.
You do know there duty officers that increase the damage that you do while cloaked right,,, Oh wait you disagree because you don't have the ship never tried it ...I have it and I hit very hard while cloaked... With the Duty officer Bonuses... If the player has the right set up he can hit you hard .....
What are you on about you TRIBBLE
I own the three pack and yes I know about the damage boosts and yes I know about the ship hitting hard as my ship does you simpleton read what I wrote before speaking about one of my posts again you commoner
Oh and they aren't doffs that boost damage that would be BOFFS you nugget
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You do know there duty officers that increase the damage that you do while cloaked right,,, Oh wait you disagree because you don't have the ship never tried it ...I have it and I hit very hard while cloaked... With the Duty officer Bonuses... If the player has the right set up he can hit you hard .....
pretty sure you mean the subterfuge trait of your BOFFS and if you read carefully that does only increase your dmg output AFTER decloaking
if you do infact mean a certain DOFF, plz link it or something, because i'm totally unaware of it.
would be a strange doff anyway, since there are only 3 ships that could use a doff that increased dmg while cloaked.
I have a scimitar
I love my scimitar
Do I blow up? Yes
But I'm learning how to use it give me the time and money and I will be able to fly it in my sleep
Lol bad ship?
5 forward weapon slot with 5 tac consoles and escort style boff layout that also has flexibility.
2 peice console set that increases turn rate into klingon style battlecruiser and also alows shields up while cloaked aka get a reman officer and you can keep the cloak damage boost up near 100% of the time & and the +10 turn rate and thats a real +10 not a 10%.
The scimitar is probably the best pve ship in the game. (everytime i see a scimitar in elites do 2k dps and dying nonstop i can't help but laugh)
I have to give this thread a reply worthy of the sheer ridiculous nature of the original post.
The Scimitar is amazing, provided you can actually play. If you think its lame, then you mustn't be able to see its very obvious good points and advantages, and utilise them.
Move along, nothing to see hear.
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Why everyone who bought the scimitar feels discriminated ?
I saw everywhere threads of protest against this ship.
Someone complains about the Thalaron Pulse, someone else complains about it being so squishy.
why you bought it ?
I love the Scimitar, I started as a romulan only to get a Scimitar, but when they released it, i didn't bought it.
I knew it wasn't a good ship.
Too squishy, too big and with low turn rate.
it is probably one of the worst ship in the game, and I knew it.
I said it about 20 times in various threads, but no one believed me.
It's really a double edged sword kind of ship but some players know how to Spec out their Scimitar equipping your Scimitar correctly with the right gear will make your Scimitar total overkill.But as for the Thalaron Pulse you have to be able to accurately judge when and what exact moment to trigger it to kill effectively with it though,but if you have the Secondary Shielding as well you can keep your shields raised even when the Battle Cloak is active.
Actually the scim is one of if not the best ship ingame when considering dps potential. Looks well everyone has to decide that for themselves but its certainly not a bad ship lol
Why everyone who bought the scimitar feels discriminated ?
I saw everywhere threads of protest against this ship.
Someone complains about the Thalaron Pulse, someone else complains about it being so squishy.
why you bought it ?
I love the Scimitar, I started as a romulan only to get a Scimitar, but when they released it, i didn't bought it.
I knew it wasn't a good ship.
Too squishy, too big and with low turn rate.
it is probably one of the worst ship in the game, and I knew it.
I said it about 20 times in various threads, but no one believed me.
I know how you feel when I decloak in pvp and insta pop someone and they rage at me I feel very discriminated against. That ship is OP but if you treat it like a mega tank death barge because of its size please just press the abandon ship button as you will die quickly. Its a burst dps vessel you must stay in cloak. Dog fighting is a no no decloak attack maybe finsh the job if ur tgts close to death then recloak. Thal is junk. Treat the ship like a oversized bop and you will find much more success. Just because there is actually a learning curve doesn't mean its bad. Actually imo its the best ship ingame.
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I know how you feel when I decloak in pvp and insta pop someone and they rage at me I feel very discriminated against.
People always shoot at my Fleet Galaxy. I feel discriminated against all the time, since the ship has such a bad reputation of being a flying bullseye. I learned to live with it, and tank the heck out of the ship.
Ironically that makes people want to kill me more. Usually they fail.
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Why everyone who bought the scimitar feels discriminated ?
I saw everywhere threads of protest against this ship.
Someone complains about the Thalaron Pulse, someone else complains about it being so squishy.
why you bought it ?
I love the Scimitar, I started as a romulan only to get a Scimitar, but when they released it, i didn't bought it.
I knew it wasn't a good ship.
Too squishy, too big and with low turn rate.
it is probably one of the worst ship in the game, and I knew it.
I said it about 20 times in various threads, but no one believed me.
Go buy a Galaxy class or the Galaxy X
You will really feel bad then !!!!!!!!!
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I love the way people are saying a its TRIBBLE and b more than one torpedo is a waste, well I have 2 versions running one is an awsome gun boat and the other a bomber, out of the two the bomber isnthe best, loaded down with a full compliment of breen trans torps and cluster torps, its a monster in pve and pvp, mainly due to the transphasic carpet I can launch at multiple targets even under cloak, it actualy does the role of torp bomber better than the fleet tvaro.
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Why everyone who bought the scimitar feels discriminated ?
I saw everywhere threads of protest against this ship.
Someone complains about the Thalaron Pulse, someone else complains about it being so squishy.
why you bought it ?
I love the Scimitar, I started as a romulan only to get a Scimitar, but when they released it, i didn't bought it.
I knew it wasn't a good ship.
Too squishy, too big and with low turn rate.
it is probably one of the worst ship in the game, and I knew it.
I said it about 20 times in various threads, but no one believed me.
The answer to your question: The Scimitar is a complex ship which requires a fair degree of multitasking, build setup, and piloting skill to get the maximum power out of it. Most folks do not have what it takes to handle the ship and would rather use something easier to live with. (Basically like how most people would rather have a fun sporty car like an Acura Integra rather than a Koenigsegg Agera S even though the Agera is a LOT faster and more powerful it is also a LOT harder to handle.)
However, with that said: The Scimitar is not only powerful it is outright overpowered if you can handle this monster. You can have a LOT of Perfect Cloak for instance. Cloak Barrage + Romulan Rep Cloak + Warp Shadows Cloak one after another. You can gun folks down without them even knowing what is shooting at them. Its Thalaron Pulse is pretty solid in PvE and its weapon slots, tactical console slots, BOFF slots, shields in cloak, etc etc is just so wickedly potent.
Apparently some people don't read posts further down the page...
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It's a good thing I live to impress people online and be credible with them.
But that's fine feel how you want. I've dumped enough money into the game at this point to warrant playing it how I want.
I have something that works very well for me in PVE and for me that's just fine. But I'm glad you're so much better than me.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Linky.
That would be a video of one of my fleetmates in a Scimitar COMPLETING ISE SOLO WITH THE OPTIONAL.
Worst ship my rear end.
Wow - 8 Experimental Romulan Plasma Beam Arrays - on 1 ship - interesting weapon set-up
4000 romulan marks just for that
great for PvE it seems although hard to control with others also involved - but I think this was just for show? PvP of course would be another matter with a fast moving escort coming up behind.
Hey, you managed to get past the thread title. A dalek behind me kept making threats... "Disriminate! Disriminate!" I feared for my... rim.
Scimitars started out really fragile until folks got the hang of them. There's still a few dodgy ones but generally I see them doing loads of damage. If there's any downside it is getting tangled in one warping between sectors. I've been juggled to top then bottom then top of the zone, at least until it fled. The coolest scims are the few with thalaron pulses. Once you're sure it's not aimed at yourself then you shoot for as much threat and lockdown as possible -- fire everything. No doubt the scimitar player spent quite a bit on it, so let's make it a party! Quick game's a good game.
the real art of dpsing is to keep over 15k dps in a 9 minute battle when everybody else is doing <3k.
4 minute battle with 2 others above 10k, is normally an indicator that the 20k guy was spamming a2b infused BFAW.
this is not a critique, i'm just trying to explain why and how those numbers come to be, based on personal experiance.
and @ newromulan1: the romulan beams, once the store for them is unlocked only cost refined dilithium...there is only the unique romulan experimental beam that cost dilithium and 500 marks.
1. More than one torpedo is too much. You have the mines already, drop the torps for more beams. Or choose one Torp and drop the other torp and the mines for more beams.(Just because it CAN mount cannons doesn't mean it SHOULD)
2. Tactical consoles should be buffing your energy damage of choice(In this case, Disruptor). Shift the universals to Engineering and Science. Yes, that'll mean taking off the Field Generators and potentially one Universal. You'll have to make a choice on this one given how many universals you have.
That's what I see at least. Can't see your bridge officers for whatever reason.
They aren't much of an improvement.
Problems with thalaron hitting low amount of damage? thalaron is boosted by partigens, aux, apa, apo, tf, gdf, gamma etc, if you dont use any of those abilities or debuff enemy resistance you ain't gonna do sheet on your enemy, when you use thalaron, your only enemy is SNB and scramble sensors
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Proud member or DPS-800 "-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."
You do know there duty officers that increase the damage that you do while cloaked right,,, Oh wait you disagree because you don't have the ship never tried it
While someone else is spamming BFAW with APB3 making everything super soft. I always say show me a log with base damage numbers and we'll see the real story.
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what i meant was, that combat parsers in general can only give you a DPS value based on the duration of a fight...which means the fight duration is a crucual component in the calculation.
and in grp content, the duration of a fight depends on the performance of your team.
a DPS meter for instance takes the outgoing dmg and adjusts it each second, which leaves the effective time of the whole fight out of the equation. making it actually more accurate for comparison.
BFAW spam does not actually inflate your dps, since it definately hits a target and deals dmg even if that target heals it away again...
what really inflates the dps numbers in all combat parsers is the logged duration of the fight. If you play solo, those numbers are "untainted"...but once you go grp the performance of your teammate is as important as your own to keep the numbers high.
What are you on about you TRIBBLE
I own the three pack and yes I know about the damage boosts and yes I know about the ship hitting hard as my ship does you simpleton read what I wrote before speaking about one of my posts again you commoner
Oh and they aren't doffs that boost damage that would be BOFFS you nugget
pretty sure you mean the subterfuge trait of your BOFFS and if you read carefully that does only increase your dmg output AFTER decloaking
if you do infact mean a certain DOFF, plz link it or something, because i'm totally unaware of it.
would be a strange doff anyway, since there are only 3 ships that could use a doff that increased dmg while cloaked.
I love my scimitar
Do I blow up? Yes
But I'm learning how to use it give me the time and money and I will be able to fly it in my sleep
I AM THE SWORD OF THE RIGHTOUS!
5 forward weapon slot with 5 tac consoles and escort style boff layout that also has flexibility.
2 peice console set that increases turn rate into klingon style battlecruiser and also alows shields up while cloaked aka get a reman officer and you can keep the cloak damage boost up near 100% of the time & and the +10 turn rate and thats a real +10 not a 10%.
The scimitar is probably the best pve ship in the game. (everytime i see a scimitar in elites do 2k dps and dying nonstop i can't help but laugh)
The Scimitar is amazing, provided you can actually play. If you think its lame, then you mustn't be able to see its very obvious good points and advantages, and utilise them.
Move along, nothing to see hear.
It's really a double edged sword kind of ship but some players know how to Spec out their Scimitar equipping your Scimitar correctly with the right gear will make your Scimitar total overkill.But as for the Thalaron Pulse you have to be able to accurately judge when and what exact moment to trigger it to kill effectively with it though,but if you have the Secondary Shielding as well you can keep your shields raised even when the Battle Cloak is active.
I know how you feel when I decloak in pvp and insta pop someone and they rage at me I feel very discriminated against. That ship is OP but if you treat it like a mega tank death barge because of its size please just press the abandon ship button as you will die quickly. Its a burst dps vessel you must stay in cloak. Dog fighting is a no no decloak attack maybe finsh the job if ur tgts close to death then recloak. Thal is junk. Treat the ship like a oversized bop and you will find much more success. Just because there is actually a learning curve doesn't mean its bad. Actually imo its the best ship ingame.
It also gives shield batts 10% res boost for ten sec
You must not know how to fly hold builds
keep the mine but weapons wise go for like http://gateway.startrekonline.com/#char(PoPerz Ur BoPeRz@kidkaboom10000)/ship-equipment the neglect of planning in that build is scaring me bro
People always shoot at my Fleet Galaxy. I feel discriminated against all the time, since the ship has such a bad reputation of being a flying bullseye. I learned to live with it, and tank the heck out of the ship.
Ironically that makes people want to kill me more. Usually they fail.
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Go buy a Galaxy class or the Galaxy X
You will really feel bad then !!!!!!!!!
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
The answer to your question: The Scimitar is a complex ship which requires a fair degree of multitasking, build setup, and piloting skill to get the maximum power out of it. Most folks do not have what it takes to handle the ship and would rather use something easier to live with. (Basically like how most people would rather have a fun sporty car like an Acura Integra rather than a Koenigsegg Agera S even though the Agera is a LOT faster and more powerful it is also a LOT harder to handle.)
However, with that said: The Scimitar is not only powerful it is outright overpowered if you can handle this monster. You can have a LOT of Perfect Cloak for instance. Cloak Barrage + Romulan Rep Cloak + Warp Shadows Cloak one after another. You can gun folks down without them even knowing what is shooting at them. Its Thalaron Pulse is pretty solid in PvE and its weapon slots, tactical console slots, BOFF slots, shields in cloak, etc etc is just so wickedly potent.
Apparently some people don't read posts further down the page...
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