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Why everyone who bought the scimitar feels disriminated ?
shinzonisback
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Why everyone who bought the scimitar feels discriminated ?
I saw everywhere threads of protest against this ship.
Someone complains about the Thalaron Pulse, someone else complains about it being so squishy.
why you bought it ?
I love the Scimitar, I started as a romulan only to get a Scimitar, but when they released it, i didn't bought it.
I knew it wasn't a good ship.
Too squishy, too big and with low turn rate.
it is probably one of the worst ship in the game, and I knew it.
I said it about 20 times in various threads, but no one believed me.
I saw everywhere threads of protest against this ship.
Someone complains about the Thalaron Pulse, someone else complains about it being so squishy.
why you bought it ?
I love the Scimitar, I started as a romulan only to get a Scimitar, but when they released it, i didn't bought it.
I knew it wasn't a good ship.
Too squishy, too big and with low turn rate.
it is probably one of the worst ship in the game, and I knew it.
I said it about 20 times in various threads, but no one believed me.
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I bought it because I'm Reman and I want to fulfill a theme of rebellion. Shinzon gave a spread of inspiration throughout the Reman and showed everyone they're more than slaves and shock troops.
Also, if you want a challenge, buy this ship and become a tactical marvel - hitting those key moments with the Pulse.
Squishy? Nope. People just expect to stand still with a huge ship and expect the ship to take all the punishment. I can agree on the secondary shield to be rather useless, but it's useful when it comes to that little extra time for your pulse to load and your front shields to hold a little longer than normal.
If you are in trouble.. CLOAK. Get away from the fight, recuperate and come back with fire in your eyes.
2-Has it's issues but it is in no way a bad ship. Quite the opposite, it's really good.
3-Low turn rate? Don't notice. I'm used to slow turning cruisers, so the Scimitar is fast, from my perspective.
Since I enjoy changing my game every now and then, at the moment I'm not using it because I wanted to play the D'Deridex and improve my build, but I will get back to the Scimitar, no doubt about it, to improve on it as well.
Its very much how you fly the ship. Cloaked barrage to soften up the target, pop a weapon battery, decloak and finish them off. Then recloak and get out of dodge. Making sure not to use all 3 consoles is a smart move. You tend to gimp your build if you use all of them imho.
Scimitar in terms of firepower is quite overkill if built correctly, Falchion is seriously tanky at the loss of some DPS. Tulwar I never bothered to fly so I can't comment.
Playing a Romulan taught me one thing, that I didn't like most of their ships. Fleet T'varo is still a lot of fun mind you. But KDF is for me, I love my Battlecruisers.
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But I meant that the Scimitar isn't worth 25$ or 50$.
I fly an Ha'Feh (not the fleet version) and I love it.
It can take a lot of damage, and deals a lot of damage.
I think that the Ha'Feh would be better than a Scimitar, and the Ha'Feh doesn't cost 25$.
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Have you actually used a Scimitar?
I think it is an "I win" ship - in PvE anyway - although I think that's really down somewhat to availability of items like the Valdore console. I don't run any of the scimitar consoles because frankly I don't need secondary shields, can face-tank pretty much anything without having to soften it up with a preliminary cloaked barrage, and although some players love popping in and out of stealth to take advantage of the damage boost, I find that in those fews seconds of them not firing, my continued damage output outweighs the bonus they get when they pop back out again. The hangar is really just the icing on the cake, especially running drone ships which are frankly overpowered. The thing is a monster, and everything else I've flown since getting my hands on it has been lackluster by comparison.
I'm actually at the point where I think I'm going to force myself only to fly it when I run the crystalline elite (easy 1st place in it) - I've been playing around with the Monbosh quite a bit, and whilst it doesn't come close to meeting the high benchmark that the scimitar has set, I've been having a lot of fun with it. The only thing that nags me is that the subspace transceiver console is pretty much junk - it's a nice idea in theory, but frankly they should have just given both Elachi ships a hangar that could only slot the control/support craft combo. Hopefully they'll take a look at it, but mine's sitting in the bank because as it stands the ship suffers for using it.
I have to strongly disagree with you on the cloaking damage boost part
The 25% boost is to all damage not base ALL damage so I cloak wait 5 seconds then when I de cloak I get 15 seconds of 25% boost I can't see you doing that sort of damage in 5 seconds
i have all three consoles, and this is what i do.
cloak and dagger tactic:
enable all your offensive, de-cloak, COMPLETELY destroy your enemy in SECONDS,(also goes for dreadnought type enemies) re-cloak, repeat until no one remains.
Doesn't it turn as good as a Sovereign? And much better when your in cloak? With +turn Neutronium consoles you can boost it up to 10 out of cloak and that's enough for my DHC KDF Cruiser build.
The biggest quirk (not Quark or flaw) with the ship is the Thalaron Pulse is a 3 console bonus, and it's worth it in PVE (Especially as a big bad Scimitar) but not in PVP.
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If you do the math, 15s of a 25% boost is less than 4s of 100%, so mathematically it's impossible for you to do more damage by cloaking instead of just firing.
Scimitars don't need to run any of the consoles really. They are fun toys, but basically junk. It's definitely enjoyable to fire from cloak, use the Thalaron Pulse, etc., but don't delude yourself into thinking you're doing anything other than gimping yourself by using them. Built properly, they are incredibly tough, with massive dps. If you're blowing up a lot, you're doing something wrong. The only thing that makes them take more damage is that their large hull puts you in range of core breaches more often. Watch for that.
That's why it's the most deadly maneuvre in the whole of sto and why everyone and their granny uses a battle cloak
Using the boost with apa and fomm my dhcs crit for 20k so it pays to tcloak every now an again especially when apa is up off cool down
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
It's dangerous in PvP, because players depend so much on damage resistances and heals to tank - basically, in PvP, if you don't have your DPS above a certain threshold, it's functionally zero. Cloaking and decloaking, then, can provide the necessary "spike" to overcome someone's tank.
In PVE, though, NPCs don't really "tank", per se, they just rely on relatively large HP pools to live long enough to be a challenge. Thus, in PvE, it's more important to do a constant stream of damage than it is to have damage spikes to overcome resistances.
This is also why Beam Overload is good in PvP, but not as useful in PvE unless you take care to mitigate the power drain downside.
Funny, bought the Scimitar pack and:
1) Don't find it useless (my Romulan character still uses it.)
2) It's FAR from being one of the worst/squishiest ships in game (with a good build.)
Honestly, sounds more like a case of some players expecting/wondering: "Hey! Where's my 'I win' button?";)
[Oh, and if you didn't buy it, haven't tried it yourself - it kind of makes me wonder where your basis for complaining about it is. There's so much BAD ship info and bad assumptions on the official forums, it's often hilarious to read at times.]
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Anybody whining about the Scimitar hasn't seen one operated in the hands of a skilled Tac. There is nothing easy mode about the ship, but the ones out there that actually know how to play can make that bird sing...
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but jokes aside, i am happy with mine, its a cool ship, nice look, i love it.
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What is going on in this thread. Are people seriously calling Scimitars underpowered and junky?
LOL.
Nice.
Kirk's Protege.
Very fun to fly, the only complaint i have with it is the inertia.
This post... XD. Made my afternoon. I am inclined to agree. I often don't even bother to do anything anymore if I see a Tac Scimitar in an ESTF. I just sit back, shoot at things, and watch as it mows TRIBBLE down like nothing.
Been dying to try a beam Scimitar, but haven't gotten around to it yet (Romulan BOFFs are still stupidly expensive), and I agree completely. That inertia... I keep on overshooting EVERYTHING. It's worse even then my Odyssey... -.-
Everything else, GOLD.
Yeah, still having this issue occasionally, but I am starting to realize it's as a result of everything and it's mother shooting at me. Oh wells XD.
Reading comprehension ftw. You battle cloak when you aren't in position to continue firing on your main target(s). No one is saying you shouldn't battle cloak at all. The point is this: if you still have good targets when your ambush buff wears off, cloaking for 4s to get the buff again will net you less overall dps than the dps you will 'lose' for not having the buff for the next 15s.
Put another way: if you're firing continuously at some fat target, like a gateway, taking the time to interrupt your firing to battle cloak and get the ambush buff again will yield a net loss of dps.
And yea I use, DHCs and one DBB. After flying the bortasque on my KDF tac, this ship actually feels very nimble. I dont pvp, but in pve, this thing does credit to the original from the movie.
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A mine launcher and beams...sorry, you lost all credibility with me.
Everyone is quick to discredit the tractor mine launcher but after having been on the receiving end of it multiple times I soon learned its effectiveness.
You are more than welcome to challenge me to a duel.
Your entire build... I... I... You really should rethink it...
And yeah, I agree, you just lost all credibility. Period. Probably permanently... In all honesty... yeah, I feel your scimitar is more an insult to the ship than proof it's good...