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berserkerkitten8
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Right, apparently I'm stupid, because I can't for the life of me figure out how to get anything better than 3rd place against the crystalline entity - if that.
Starbase 24, Gorn Minefield, Klingon Scout Force, no problem, 1st place all the time. Crystalline Catastrophe? HA! I wish.
What am I missing? What am I doing wrong? Should I focus on the Tholians until they're all gone or go straight for the entity? Should I back off ASAP when it's absorbing energy? I see people who keep on firing and back off at the last second. Is that the way to do it?
Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Starbase 24, Gorn Minefield, Klingon Scout Force, no problem, 1st place all the time. Crystalline Catastrophe? HA! I wish.
What am I missing? What am I doing wrong? Should I focus on the Tholians until they're all gone or go straight for the entity? Should I back off ASAP when it's absorbing energy? I see people who keep on firing and back off at the last second. Is that the way to do it?
Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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One way to increase your ranking is to heal others if their health drops. I believe it counts healing ticks and if this is the case then hazard emitters is your best bet.
Personally I found that a vesta console is also very good. One of the vesta consoles gives and aoe heal which makes getting forst place very easy (I do realise this might not be an option for you as you'd have to buy the vesta).
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond.
I usually only get as far as 3rd place too. Did manage 1st once. The floor trophy is pretty awesome.
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I think during that Event there were a lot of sub-par players running the mission, so getting 1st was easier then than it has been now, but I still get it from time-to-time. Even my Romulan (Sci/Tal Shiar Adapted Cruiser) got her Shattered accolade (1st place in CE) recently.
As packer3434 mentioned, healing has a lot to do with it. My Eng/Star Cruiser has cruddy DPS, but astounding Tanking/Healing, gets 1st pretty regularly.
I wonder if they are somehow also including "CE Debuff" in there too somehow, because my Sci/Wells tends to get 1st a lot and that build spams APB and Tachyon Beam, with only moderate DPS and little healing as does my Eng/VoQuv who spams Energy Siphon...
In fact, I most often get 1st with my Support Builds.
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I am flying a Sovereign refit, so while pretty good at damage for a cruiser, escorts usually trump me. And while I am dealing a good bit of dps I nearly sacrifice all healing for that, so no way to score points that way.
I decided to make a last ditch effort and then not care about it anymore if it fails.
I collected doff assignments that give skill buffs all day long until i felt that nearly every system got a nice boost.
Went the all DPS route with only minimal self healing (and one engi team, which I threw around when i could spare it).
And then I turned in all those doff missions, queued up and gave it all.
I thought, I lost it when I exploded near the end, the Tholians got me, was a little too much aggro.
But surprise, surprise I made 1st and i don't think the whole team was so bad, because the CE died relatively fast and didn't get buffed up too much.
So hang in there. You'll do it.
Hop in a Galaxy-class, heal your teammates as much as possible, and take first place for heals.
Trust me, it works. I did it and got 1st a couple times in the rare moment I actually play Crystalline Entity.
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Yep, the Galaxy is actually really good for CE. In mine I just stayed on the outskirts of the battle and handled Tholians while tossing out heals to everyone around me. Got first place easy without firing a single shot at the CE itself. I do the same with my Vesta every now and then. HE3 with 130 aux makes it very, very easy to get first.
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firing at the entity isn't really affective for reaching first place because of its very high resistance.
In fact, concentrating on the support vessel, shards and healing will most likely get you to first place.
the most important factor however is the skill of the players in your team. If those are simply better for one reason or the other you can't do much but improve your build, gear and skill.
1) Many paths to 1st, indeed!
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I can vouch for this, I was always 3rd, then decided to go in and shoot EVERYTHING EXCEPT the CE. Targeted shards and Tholians, keeping the heat off the park and shoot players. I came in first, and was shocked because it was counter to how I thought I should win.
Getting hit by shards should impose a major score penalty on you, but it doesn't, and people can troll the whole match by sending out pets to die over and over, or just not pay attention and spam heals on themselves as they crash through the middle of the CE.
Crowd control awards nothing, but is highly valuable in the match.
Rewarding bad behaviour is a major issue in STO and it seems to continue to happen in new content, penalize people that are doing it wrong and then they are forced to learn.
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I think you're right, there. If healing points were limited to healing others, (encouraging teamwork) that alone might bring the scoring system of the CE PvE into line with preferred practices.
Personally, I don't understand why so much info in STO is hidden (like the very fact that this PvE has a scoring system, and what the results were). For instance, you can figure out the rate of fire on a weapon by doing the math between the damage per shot and damage per second statistics, but why should I have to do math? (I like doing math, don't get me wrong) It makes comparisons difficult. I'm still having a hard time comparing one ship to another in terms of hull/shield/crew(?)/turn rate/whatever other stat that will reveal itself to be ultra important.
And those who do the damage should not be awarded from your point of view. Is there a problem if I use Valdore console to keep myself alive? I was sick tired of engineers healing me when I didn't so they could get first place. Rolled on Scimitar and started getting first places once and for all with endless attempts on non-romulans.
Yeah I finally got first yesterday also with mostly torpedoes and a valdore. Usually get 3rd - I never got 2nd.
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Or put the valdore console on a romulan ship, place your left ear on the caps lock button, and without lifting your head, touch the keyboard numberpad with yout right ear. 1st place, everytime.
They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part.
Despite not having FAW and non dps pets (shield healing ones) and focussed on keeping team mates alive, I came 1st.
DPS definitely isn't everything in CCE.
Kinetic damage and healing are key in CEE. That and ample use of TR/GW
This also has a side-effect that most BFAW or pure energy builds never get into top-3.
A side effect of that is that they don't get gear, but extra dilithium . Usually purple vendor trash or some extra dilithium.. what to choose.
This. The Kinetic part is simply a side-effect of the thing's high Energy resistance, which diminishes your damage-related scoring if you're constantly shooting energy weapons. In addition, CCE is one of the few things in-game that seems to be scored on something other than blowing stuff up; it also scores based on keeping your teammates alive. Kind of a nice change of pace, really.
Yes, the Fleet Corsair is great at this!
I play it differently though, I do have alot of heals like transfer shield strength, ep2s, enigeering team with the doff that boost healing after use and cut down the cd, reverse shield polarity III, ,and aux to intergity, plus the full Dyson set. I also use Elite Slavers.
I set my Fleet Corsair right beside the crystalline enitity put up attract fire, and lauch slavers and fire every thing I got and heal myself till I get blown up. I got first place a whole bunch of times. I also use feedback pulse.
I would like to heal others, but everytime I try and heal others in combat, it switches to the target I'm attacking before I hit the heal power and I heal myself instead. Arrrggg.
Still CE is one of the best for the Corsair, along with the Undine Space Battle Zone.
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