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imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 825 Arc User
i want to buy a jem'hadar heavy escort carrier off the exchange and the price is 70,000,000 SO for anyone who have ever grinded that amount how long would it take me with the various options in the game?
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  • chulaksaviour1chulaksaviour1 Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Easiest way is to buy Lockbox Keys and sell them. Other options are grind the foundery farm missions once a day, tour the universe still grants a respectable amount of EC or getting lucky in your loot drops for sale on the exchange. There are probably more and Im sure someone will mention it
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It's very random. There are certain equipment drops you can get in-game that go for more millions. The same with boffs and doffs. Just having the right combination of luck could get you 70 million in couple of days. :)

    At level 50 it's not that difficult to make hundreds of thousands, if not a million, a day, even with the truncated Tour. There are also existing Foundry missions that will put a bunch of ECs into you pocket - at least until Cryptic gets around to fixing that exploit too.

    There's also things you can buy for Zen that you can sell on the Exchange. I generally grind enough Dilithium to buy a 10-pack of Keys a week. So that's around $14 million per week if I want to go that route.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    It's very random. There are certain equipment drops you can get in-game that go for more millions. The same with boffs and doffs. Just having the right combination of luck could get you 70 million in couple of days. :)

    At level 50 it's not that difficult to make hundreds of thousands, if not a million, a day, even with the truncated Tour. There are also existing Foundry missions that will put a bunch of ECs into you pocket - at least until Cryptic gets around to fixing that exploit too.

    There's also things you can buy for Zen that you can sell on the Exchange. I generally grind enough Dilithium to buy a 10-pack of Keys a week. So that's around $14 million per week if I want to go that route.

    How on earth can you grind so much dil to buy a 10 key set per week? Please tell me the magic of this?
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    How on earth can you grind so much dil to buy a 10 key set per week? Please tell me the magic of this?
    Yeah. 4 characters earning 4-5k each. It usually takes me around 2.5 hours to make 15-20k per day. If I had mining certificates I could pop out 20k in less then a hour. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    8000 dil x lets, say six alts, all capping out

    thats 48k of dil

    multiplied by a week...336,000 dilithium

    divide that by 114 (an aribitary figure based on current z/d prices)

    2974z, with a little left over


    ...of course to do this means you have to grind dilithium, a lot - which to do so via certain methods requires ec aplenty - but that will cut into your key profit (or you can go the other method and invest time)

    Either way, theres no easy method to that, other than gambling on lockboxes to give you a ship to sell (of course theres lobi for the ships as a bonus...)
  • topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    70m? Takes me a week or two, depends how good business is.
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    You guys are all either lucky or extremely dedicated... :o

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  • topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dalolorn wrote: »
    You guys are all either lucky or extremely dedicated... :o

    EC is the easiest currency in the game to earn. Far more-so than dilithium or marks. Just gotta find a market and corner it.

    Example: I don't mind sharing this as I can no longer be bothered to do it. 10 characters picking up NADORC = 10 artifacts every 4 days = ~17.5 artifacts per week. It takes at most 15 minutes to pick up the mission 15 times.

    That's what, 20m EC per week if you power them up. Peasy.
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    topset wrote: »
    EC is the easiest currency in the game to earn. Far more-so than dilithium or marks. Just gotta find a market and corner it.

    Example: I don't mind sharing this as I can no longer be bothered to do it. 10 characters picking up NADORC = 10 artifacts every 4 days = ~17.5 artifacts per week. It takes at most 15 minutes to pick up the mission 15 times.

    That's what, 20m EC per week if you power them up. Peasy.

    1. By the time I find a market, it's in a stage at which I can't corner it.

    2. I only have 5 characters, and have very few supplies to do NADORC with.

    3. I have even less stuff to power the artifacts with.

    So, I stick to running STFs for dilithium whenever I need it, which can yield nearly 3 keys or a ship module within 2 days of maximum refining, and even some of the cheaper T5 ships in 6 days. :D

    I should, however, make it a habit to do the Academy dailies, as they can allow me to stockpile decent quantities of dilithium without any effort, before I even know I need it.

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  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Who has the time or energy to get 8000 dil on several characters per day? I can barely get it one O.o
  • cgta1967cgta1967 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Who has the time or energy to get 8000 dil on several characters per day? I can barely get it one O.o

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  • havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Foundry Farms. You should be doing one with all your other dailies.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited August 2013
    In game, there are a variety of ways of earning ec in large amounts, but all of them require some dedicated effort. I play 4 hours a day, on 2-3 toons. Each toon generates 500K-1 million ec. I [prefer using my dill for our starbase or for rep items.

    How I do it:

    Dedicated effort, and a basic working knowledge of the exchange.

    Play the ec farming missions in the foundry. You'll cap your daily drops to 60 items, roughly generating anywhere from 250K-500K on average.

    I grind the exchange; i look for under priced items, but them for scrap or for resale. Some days I get nothing, but others I will gain easily 500K just for 10 minutes effort. Occasionally I stumble upon mispriced items, and generate millions.

    Fill every duty officer assignment on every toon; this generates the necessary resources for powering artifacts.

    If NADORC is available when I play (20% of the time) I generate artifacts and power them. This gets me 1-4 million ec per week.

    Sell the drops i generate during the dill grind. This swapping between 4 toons means I can pretty much grind dill non-stock.

    Fleet credits - buy doffs, and sell. I'll dump 100K fc into doffs for my fleet, and 500-100K fc for myself. This gets an average of 25K per doff.

    Rommy doff tac officers. Ive manage to get 4 so far, each sells for about 1.5 Million each.

    My first Hundred million took about 30 days @ 4 hours a day without selling keys.
  • cgta1967cgta1967 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    havokreign wrote: »
    Foundry Farms. You should be doing one with all your other dailies.

    this ^

    it's easy to net 500K+ with a character in a quick 5 minute run a day. Even more if your lucky to get a purple item to sell from the drops.
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  • topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Who has the time or energy to get 8000 dil on several characters per day? I can barely get it one O.o

    For 2-3 hours play I usually hit the cap on 4-5 characters.

    Once you've been doing it this long it's not so hard. Mostly ESTFs, if you have lots of characters capable of doing them, and run with good teams, each run is only 4 minutes or so. You can just do a set, move characters, do another set, move characters, etc.

    S'pretty easy tbh. Plus one of my characters has dil claims from opening boxes to get lobi. That's 5k in 2 minutes.
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Even with the lower prices for doffs since the last lockbox was released, doffing is still my prime rescource of EC and it still has the highest ratio of income vs. ingame time invested.

    Asylums, supports, haggles, officer exchanges, suliban cell ship missions, flight training, console fabrication (the dept. head one), nadorc, warp core fabrication etc... still provide tons of steady income.
  • havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Protip: I have 2 characters that I stopped leveling once I unlocked duty officers. These characters are just for farming rares in the foundry. At low levels, the loot cap takes longer to reach, and in my experience, drop Rares far more often than at level 50.

    Rares and Very Rares of MkIII-MkVIII go for 100k ec, or lots more, quite frequently. Players level so fast through mission content, there aren't a whole lot of them floating around unless players like me are farming them.

    And many if not, dare I say, a majority of new toons, are made by existing players who have the EC to burn on low level TRIBBLE they don't need.
  • rottonsaztanrottonsaztan Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Everyone has about covered it, save one thing...You have to put in some time to make any of this work....Ive seen dedicated players make credits flow like water...

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  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Okay, I am going to try to do foundary on my two lv 50 characters and see how that goes.

    I cannot do the tour of the universe thing. Not enough time. Thing is I always prefer ground STF and on those the gear is nothing big EC wise.

    I would love to get the elachi escort at least for my KDF. She has no special ship (lvl 50 or fleet version). I think that ship could be an excellent final ship for her, but difficult to get specially when you have no EC. Tried to open a few boxes.. just got duty officers and lobis.
  • satanailofhwbgsatanailofhwbg Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It took me around a month with one character, but wouldn't repeat it any time soon. Got my recluse though.
  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    burstorion wrote: »
    8000 dil x lets, say six alts, all capping out

    thats 48k of dil

    multiplied by a week...336,000 dilithium

    divide that by 114 (an aribitary figure based on current z/d prices)

    2974z, with a little left over


    ...of course to do this means you have to grind dilithium, a lot - which to do so via certain methods requires ec aplenty - but that will cut into your key profit (or you can go the other method and invest time)

    Either way, theres no easy method to that, other than gambling on lockboxes to give you a ship to sell (of course theres lobi for the ships as a bonus...)
    Everyone has about covered it, save one thing...You have to put in some time to make any of this work....Ive seen dedicated players make credits flow like water...

    ... Lol not me, but , guildmates;)

    With grinding?

    Lets say it cost 60 mil EC:..

    And you get 400k on one day grind.

    Thats 150 days ... 150/30 = 5 months... thats steep.

    The price for the ship has probably risen by that time since new ships come out and the old one becomes more rare.
  • shockwave85shockwave85 Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I know there are ways that people earn heaps of EC in this game, I just don't find them any fun. Some people get off on being a robber baron in MMOs, but it's just not for me. I'd rather spend my time playing whatever content I feel like rather than choosing how I spend my time based on an EC farming regimen. Not to take anything away from people who enjoy playing markets and whatnot, I see how you might enjoy that for its own sake. I just don't. Richest I ever was is about 42 mil.

    I don't find any of the ships so superior as to be worth it though. Maybe the JHAS, but that thing's busted. I probably wouldn't fly it out of principle. I'd rather spend 10 mil on good Doffs than hoard money toward a lockbox ship.
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  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I know there are ways that people earn heaps of EC in this game, I just don't find them any fun. Some people get off on being a robber baron in MMOs, but it's just not for me. I'd rather spend my time playing whatever content I feel like rather than choosing how I spend my time based on an EC farming regimen. Not to take anything away from people who enjoy playing markets and whatnot, I see how you might enjoy that for its own sake. I just don't. Richest I ever was is about 42 mil.

    I don't find any of the ships so superior as to be worth it though. Maybe the JHAS, but that thing's busted. I probably wouldn't fly it out of principle. I'd rather spend 10 mil on good Doffs than hoard money toward a lockbox ship.

    Oh I don't think its fun .. I absolutely hate it. I would rather just play content but 1. there is not much new Cryptic related content in terms of mission. I am really missing the FE releases,... I know.. there is one coming soon. But thats what I think its fun.. dare to say it but i am actually looking forward to the new dyson sphere. 2. Getting a VA ship is just another type of grind which is equally expensive and difficult to get.

    The difference is I want a Wells and Elachi escort. Its really sad they are so difficult to get with a drop rate of only 0.1%. It would be ok if only the keys wasn't so difficult to get for a player that can only login at about 2 hours a day,.. not counting weekends which i do have more time from time to time. Its also sad that once you get those ships.. if you are so lucky... they are not account bound. I am afraid that with account bound they will probably be even more difficult to get.

    But having that said I will probably keep opening boxes ... as much as I can.. and save up 800 lobis so i can buy it. I am not sure if this is the case.. but I think its a good thing you can eventually buy the ships you want on lobi - store.. or otherwise you end up opening boxes with no end in sight.

    Speaking of which.. when you buy the ship in lobi-store does it become bound directly or only until you open the box?

    EDIT:
    Say you get 4 lobis per box.. thats 200 lockboxes you have to open. .. *sighs* there is no end in sight. How on earth am I going to get 200 boxes and keys... he he well, sometimes you get more than 4 .. so maybe it won't be that bad.. *hopeful*

    EDIT2:

    200 boxes *1.5 mil = 300 mil.. wow.. its cheeper to buy on exchange.
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Speaking of which.. when you buy the ship in lobi-store does it become bound directly or only until you open the box?

    Only when you open it. You can buy the lobi ships on the exchange. That's what I'm planning to do instead of using keys for lobi. I'm gunning for a Monbosh myself, have saved up to 22m so far. Long way to go, but it's better than opening boxes from what I've been told.
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  • shockwave85shockwave85 Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lan451 wrote: »
    Only when you open it. You can buy the lobi ships on the exchange. That's what I'm planning to do instead of using keys for lobi. I'm gunning for a Monbosh myself, have saved up to 22m so far. Long way to go, but it's better than opening boxes from what I've been told.

    If the two methods of obtaining the ship are buying keys and opening boxes vs. buying keys and selling them on the exchange, you are statistically likely to get a better deal by selling the keys. Assuming the only thing you're interested in is the ship, and not any of the other stuff that comes out of the box.

    I think that over an extended period of time opening enough boxes the loot that comes out pays for the keys. It depends on the box, and the relative value of stuff that comes out vs. its drop rate. It's very tricky so I don't mess with it. Other people have done the math though and determined that, for example, the Cardassian box is a good one to gamble on. Don't know how the recent boxes compare.
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  • aarons9aarons9 Member Posts: 961
    edited August 2013
    this is how the f2p model works..

    you either, spend real money on keys.. open boxes hope you win or, sell the keys and buy the ship or, grind for months to get the EC to buy the ship..

    of course they arent going to make getting the ship easy.. it will devalue the lock box keys.


    with that said, 3 or 4 chars can make 70m within a month..
    just do the foundry spotlight per char every day.
    then grind some dil to get keys.. turn in CB and do dailies..
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  • hunteralpha84hunteralpha84 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I don't know how efficient it is but I farm repair hulks in Ker'rat. You get 3 loot drops from each hulk, all mk xii and up to purple quality.

    If you're lucky you can get a very rare mk xii tac console and make at least 10 million.

    Of course you have to be prepared for the PvP side of it but that's part of the fun. :)
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  • atalossataloss Member Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dalolorn wrote: »
    You guys are all either lucky or extremely dedicated... :o

    I thought the exact same thing, because I've been wanting a Jem'Hadar Dreadnough Carrier for the past 4 months and I'm no where near getting the insane 86,000,000 to buy one.

    That's the only reason I got pissed off and brought a Atrox (which isn't as cool as a JHDC).

    So far I've only acquired 37 Lobi crystals, after using 600 zen on lockboxes. I've also wasted 5,000,000 Energy Credits on buying Lockbox keys. Yes, I tried to earn enough Lobi Crystals to buy the ship instead of buying it from the Exchange.

    I've accepted the these 3 facts:
    1. Unless someone gives me 96,000,000 Energy Credits I'll never have it.
    2. Unless Cryptic stops this Lobi nonsense and sells it for regular Zen, I'll never have it.
    3. Unless someone sells a JHDC for a realistic price while I"m on the Exchange, I'll never have it.
    One day Cryptic will be free from their Perfect World overlord. Until that day comes, they will continue to pamper the whales of this game, and ignore everyone that isn't a whale.
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