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Space Battleship Yamato 2199
sampa4
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Hey, I just found this old tv series made new recently and I was wondering: Has anyone ever watched the show: Space Battleship Yamato 2199? If so, what are your opinions on it? So far, I love it!
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The series has been licensed for eventual US publication under the 'Star Blazers' name, (the name of the original English Dub in the US)
The Comet Empire
In all technicality, it IS an old series! the original series that this is a remake of came out in the late 70s!
At least they had the common sense to retain the cool looking original ship and gear, tho not nearly enough shots of Yamato herself for my taste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiFiKrAqILc
Long Live Yamato!
@starkaos
Keep in mind Yamato 2199 wasn't aired on Japanese TV until this spring. It was being shown theatrically, in 3 - 4 per episode length films, and then released onto BD, episodically, several weeks afterward. That is why for the seemingly long spurts in seeing fansubs of the show.
As to rating it along with SAO (Summer/Fall 2012), Valvrave (Spring/Fall 2013), and Gargantia (Spring 2013), I would actually rate it better than SAO & Valvrave and on par w/Gargantia. Keep in mind I actually like all three of those shows as well. I feel the overall story and reinterpretation of 2199 is better than SAO's adaptation from the LNs and cohesively stronger than Valvrave. Plus we don't have any body-hopping, immortal, vampiric, idiotic pilots hanging around. Just a New-Galaticia-like Starbuck in amongst Yamato's Fighter Group. Why I consider it on par w/Gargantia is the overall character interactions. You see growth and development from the majority of the (enlarged) cast of 2199. And while paced faster than the original Yamato series, I don't feel like there's anything being missed in this reinterpretation.
As to why I don't have From the New World included, quite frankly, I didn't get beyond the first episode. It didn't catch my interest.
Thank you for the time...
Cryptic, would you actulaly like me to spend actual Money? It's Simple:
Leiji Matsumoto, the author of the original 'Space Battleship Yamato' has a reputation of never letting background consistency or common sense get in the way of telling a good story. Among his other works, include 'Galaxy Express 999' and 'Space Pirate Captain Harlock'...
And the trailers for the upcoming 'Space Pirate Captain Harlock' CG remake movie looks interesting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qw6yApBMH2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1zGLAtg2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S5Ls7vJcso&feature=player_embedded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17EGvy7BiUA
Well, actually, the SS Yamato was built inside the wreck of the original IJN Yamato of WWII. In Space Battleship Yamato 2199, following recent discoveries, it was revealed that the "Yamato wreck" was merely a camouflage to hide it from the Gamilus forces attacking Earth! That was why she was built the way she was!
please see this Wikipedia article on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Battleship_Yamato_(spaceship)
Did not know that about the release schedule. For Valvrave, it does well in spite of the main character. The main character is slightly more tolerable than Shinji from Evangelion, but not by much. The other characters make up for him and I like the animation of it over Yamato. From the New World, it is slow, but it has a bunch of moments where it gives a hard kick to the head. It shows how screwed up Utopia can be. Of course, liking one anime over another is all opinion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H5xz8alVfo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdbJEsWBlRE&feature=player_embedded&list=PLqBf4cYMeq2cB0m7vSoD7cnvSEAN-g7Eq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fweCj5yWFk4
And the Japanese Space Battleship Yamato 2199 opening, which starts out with a homage to the opening of the original series...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnpEU8DPzZ4
And the original series opening from the mid 1970s...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdJVc_FHTrk
(And for true Anime Fans, it will always be the Yamato, not the Argo...)
Definitely, will be watching this (hopefully, in the original Japanese with subtitles) when the opportunity arrives.
Kinda nice to see Yamato's epic tale of hope and sacrifice is still beloved.
I have some serious problems with the subtitles in these trailers especially the renaming Yamato the Argo, and also calling the Wave motion canon a Tachyon Wave gun. I hope this is not what is going to be officially releaced in the US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnpEU8DPzZ4
I agree with both of you on that one! Also, I highly dislike the English dubbed versions because: First of all, the voices in the English versions just don't seem to match up well with the characters or who the characters really are!
Second: like you said, they butchered many of the parts that made Space Battleship Yamato (SBY, getting tired of constantly typing out the full name), SBY! In fact, I hate the fact that they removed much of the humor that kept me watching!
BTW, if any of you is computer savvy and has the soundtrack to Space Battleship Yamato 2199: First, does it have the "Gamilon Theme" on it (like was played when that one general wiped out a planet's entire population using his armada and giant bombs)? 2: If so, would it be possible for you to post it on youtube, I'd REALLY like to download an mp3 of it and use it as my KDF/Terran Empire theme! Just curious!
I liked it so much (old Yamato fan from 1977 when I first saw it); I've been ordering and watching the Blu-Rays (they have English subtitles, and unlike most Japanese done subs, the people behind these seem to grasp English very well - and the translated script reads well.) direct from Japan which isn't cheap, but they've done a VERY GOOD job updating the original Yamato story, yet keeping the core of the original storyline intact. (just received Vol. 6 eps. 19-22 - and they were the best 4 episodes of the new series yet.) The battle in Episode 20 was the best yet.
I really hope the Japanese are successful enough with this that they'll keep this production team going and work on re-doing/updating the other two Space Battleship Yamato series that followed the original - "The Comet Empire" and "The Bolar Wars".
(They did have a sequence in the new 2199 series that showed Dommel's fleet fighting and decimating Comet Empire ships; and the Gamillas 'subspace ship' and it's Captain actually didn't appear until "The Bolar Wars" series -- but again (IMO) whAt they did for this retelling made sense)
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That said, I really don't get the vitriol over the Argo vs Yamato name thing. Personally, I'm fine with either one. Yes, I know it's the outer shell of the WW II battleship, but it's practically a totally new ship. Renaming it actually isn't so crazy a concept - it happens in real life, and with regards to Star Trek in particular, see the Enterprise-A and Sisko's "Sao Paulo" for more details.
I've actually been watching the show here...
http://www.animefave.net/space-battleship-yamato-2199-ova/
...where it is called "Space Battleship Yamato 2199" and everything seems to be correct.
This "Star Blazers 2199" linked previously, whatever it is, seems to be a slightly different creature.
While it would be interesting to see a 2199-like take on Macross, there's been a larger amount of continual series (much like Trek) to keep the Macross Continuity alive over the years. I just don't think something like that is gonna be doable in the near future.
Now my personal view on the Yamato/Argo thing, as far as 2199 goes, is more if you're using the actual Character Names (which seems to be the case in the Dub/Sub), you use the ship mane as well. Also the Ship Name (Yamato) is prevalent a lot in various ship interior and equipment shots through out the series. That kind of discontinuity is on the idiotic side with Anime Fans now a days. About the only reason that using the Argo is acceptable is if it's IP right nonsense. And that is rather lame at best.
Otherwise, all I hope for is a solid stateside release (Sub & Dub) and that it gets a proper and respectful TV airing as well. I've enjoyed seeing it so far and have not been disappointed in the least.
Thank you for the time...
Cryptic, would you actulaly like me to spend actual Money? It's Simple:
This is because the International Release of 'Space Battlship Yamato 2199' will be called 'Star Blazers 2199'
http://www.starblazers.com/news.html
And it was originally stated in the translation notes for the original 'Star Blazer' (English Dub only...) release that the ship name was changed to 'Argo' because they didn't want to upset WWII Vets...
I just hope that they include the original Japanese soundtrack with subtitles... (and not English dub-titles, which will always include changes due to the lip sync issue...)
The original 'Space Battleship Yamato' is a very significant series in the history of Anime. It was really the first Anime TV series with a serious storyline, and its popularity and success led to the 'Golden Age' of Anime that lasted through the end of the 1980s...
I understand that, but they've had quite a few productions that leave a little or a lot to be desired (Macross II, Macross 7, the M7 movie, and Frontier come to mind). Like Trek, having a "reissue" of the original iconic characters and ship might be better than continuing to pull a George Lucas a la the Star Wars franchise.
Coincidentally, Yamato also had a few sequels over the years as well, and now it's back to its origin. And look how great it is...
I'm well aware of it's meaning. I took Japanese for 2 years, have several books on Japanese history (not the least of which being 3 different interpretations of Musashi's The Book of the Five Rings) and I study WW II history DAILY. I'm talking about the negativity in the posts in here. Yes, I'm well aware of things the Japanese did during the era of their imperial expansion, thank you.
That's your opinion, of course. And I said nothing about Macross NOT standing the test of time, nor did I imply it. Again, a subject I have plenty of books, soundtracks and other memorabilia I refer to often on a daily basis. I'd still like to see a similar remake of it. If you disagree, fine, but you need to accept that my opinion is unaffected by this dismissal.