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5 things i would like to see in STO
owenfelix69
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A couple of things I would like to see changed in STO...
*Target Subsystems: I think you should beable to target more than just weapons and shields etc, how about target cloaking device, or target phsers, or target torpedos, or life support. like what you get on bridge commander
*Crew Recovery: I think that when your ship crew is dead, then they remain dead not have your ship crew fully recovered within minutes of you loosing everyone. Maybe even have it split, dead crew and injured crew, that way you could assign durty officers to help in the crew recovery
*Ship repair: I think that if your ship takes major damage then there is only so much you can do in space, and you need to go back to space dock or a ship yard to get fully reapirs, ther more damaged it is then the longer it takes, you may with to wait or take one your your older ships out unit the ship is repaired
*Heading back to a star base: all ships should have to go back to a space dock, for reapir, take on supplies, get new ship crew to recover the ons that have been killed, and refuel
*Torpedoes: You should have to buy torpedoes instead of having an unlimited amount, the bigger the ship, the more you can carry.
*Target Subsystems: I think you should beable to target more than just weapons and shields etc, how about target cloaking device, or target phsers, or target torpedos, or life support. like what you get on bridge commander
*Crew Recovery: I think that when your ship crew is dead, then they remain dead not have your ship crew fully recovered within minutes of you loosing everyone. Maybe even have it split, dead crew and injured crew, that way you could assign durty officers to help in the crew recovery
*Ship repair: I think that if your ship takes major damage then there is only so much you can do in space, and you need to go back to space dock or a ship yard to get fully reapirs, ther more damaged it is then the longer it takes, you may with to wait or take one your your older ships out unit the ship is repaired
*Heading back to a star base: all ships should have to go back to a space dock, for reapir, take on supplies, get new ship crew to recover the ons that have been killed, and refuel
*Torpedoes: You should have to buy torpedoes instead of having an unlimited amount, the bigger the ship, the more you can carry.
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The phaser and torps come under the target subsytem: weapons so it is there. On other systems I am not too sure. I would need to think more on them.
The entire crew mechanism is FUBARed and until that is fixed then nothing should be done to make it worse. They should remove it work on fixing it then re-introduce it. some things in game work with this mess of a system so they could be made to act as though you have a full crew until the fixed crew mechanic returns.
I think this is how it works on elite difficulty and in elite STFs you have to get it repaired to go back to full potential. As to the timer added I think that would be a no-no.
Hmm again until crew mechanic is fixed then no on the crew. As on the refuel and others it would be a tad tedious after doing it repeatedly. Time taken does not mean a greater game or more immersion.
No thanks and I fly the larger ships in the game. Add to that this would hit escorts more and so will not happen.
As someone has already mentioned the crew mechanic is already TRIBBLE and in need of a major overhaul.
On elite difficulty you have to start carrying around repair components in your inventory in order to repair damage that your ship takes when it blows up. It's an abstract concept, yours is a literal one. Problem is ships blowing up is itself an abstract concept in this game, as it results in a respawn ticker and not, y'know, GAME OVER MAN GAME OVER.
In addition, all of the endgame content can be accessed by the PVE queue. You don't have to be in the physical location of where the particular map is in order to access said content. It used to be like this, you used to have to be in Gamma Orionis in order to do any of the STFs. They changed that to make the game more accessible. All of your suggestions would make the game less accessible.
I mean strictly speaking, we already have to go back to starbases in order to do anything relating to buying or selling items from our inventory, unless you happen to be flying that one ship which has a bank/mail console and access to the exchange. Why isn't that good enough? Hell I think it's annoying myself, I don't see why I can't send an email from anywhere in the galaxy and attach whatever I damn well please, rather than having to t-warp to ESD or DS9. Or accessing my bank from inside my own ship.
Again, this would make the game less accessible than it currently is.
True. What suprised me was finding out what is an inherent sci ship thing is actually a tac BOFF skill. I just thought it was a tad starange at the time.
They could rank it up too, it doesn't matter is you are using a starter sci ship or a Zen store one they all have TSS 1. Tier 1 to 3 ships should have TSS 1, teir 4 to 5 TSS 2 and the Zen ships tier 3. As it is even when it kicks in some aren't ready to take advantage of it and even if they are slow moving torps never make it in time.
I don't think people are getting the repair ship stuff though, it's if your ship is seriously damaged you take it back to dry dock for a repair, they could even make it like a little project where you have to supply a few things to get it fixed. I don't like that no matter the damage your ship is repairable in space.
People are always heading back to esd or ds9 anyway, so why not when ur there put ur ship in for repair, and resupply your torpedoes.
I see what people are saying about escorts having as mallet load of torpedoes but to be fair in this game no1 is ever far for a star base to reload.
Then role play it don't force it on those that don't want it this late in the game. Even Blizzard realised how annoiyng it was to have to go back to a vendor for a resource, in their case arrows and bullets. First they increased the stack size, which helped then they removed it entirely, the vendors weren't that far away either.
If it had been part of the game form the beginning maybe it would be alright but this far into it no thanks.
My opinion isn't forcing it on you is it. It's just something I'd like. Something I think should have been in from the start, role playing that isn't the same. If I was forcing it on you then you would be getting it . If they forced this on my I'd be happy with it, it like to add that little more realism to it. I think it would be far more entertaining.
"Five Things I'd Like to See in STO"
Of course, none of these are realistic.
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Essentially, you said "I think this would make it better" and others pointed out why those changed would make it worse. The "don't force it on..." is much more likely to be a general "developers shouldn't..." rather than "random player with absolutely no influence (fortunately) shouldn't..."
In response to your 5 points. imo, they'd make the game significantly less enjoyable. This is bad. Sure, there are quite a few people who would like such things, but I'm guessing they'd be a miniscule percentage. Why ruin the game for 99% of the players to make 1% happy?
Now there's absolutely no reason why you can't count the torpedoes you fire, and stop when you think you should've run out. You could also happily sit on ESD for 6 weeks gametime while they patch up the holes in your ship. Remember, real starfleet captains only have one ship, and commands are hard to acquire. Of course, if your ship blows up, you would then have to wait for a new position to open up. And when you've gone through 3 or 4, they probably wouldn't trust you with them anymore.
Then all your bridge officers and crew die in combat. Unfortunately, you can't dismiss a boff in the middle of a ground mission - so you'll have to tolerate necromancy.
It probably wouldn't take long for you to lose your rank for medical reasons. Somebody who keeps charging at borg cubes? Not safe. Look at what happened to Picard! He only took on 2 or 3, and the tried to keep him out of combat because he went a bit iffy in the head. And He's ******n Picard!
So, the obvious question is Do you want realism, or do you want a nice enjoyable action MMORPG?
I'm not saying you can't have a nice mix, but the relatively minor* revisions you suggested would be far more than enough to put me off - And probably most other players too.
Your free to believe whatever you want to, and your welcome to pretend it's the case. Just don't expect people to agree with you
* Yeah - forcing people to sit on a starbase is not a minor revision - It's a game-ender.
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Your talking as if it suggest taking all the fun out of this, also I think your mixing comments with me and the original poster .
2. Subsystem targeting.
3. WAY slower Plasma torpedo recharge time, and MUCH higher energy cost as well limited equipability. Ships were built around a single launcher because they were so massively energy hungry and powerful, sadly these are modelled like Photon torps in STO.
4. NEW non-rep missions added to the game with every season
5. NON renewable crew while NOT at starbase. When your crew is DEAD they should not come back to life simply by staying out of combat. A players should have to return to base to replenish DEAD crew members.
...These are in addition to the usual less grind, less bugs, more stable servers, less lag, more PvP requests.
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You can't know weather 99% want this or not, so don't start the numbers game until you have actually spoken to each and every single player to get an accurate percentage .
Basically? It's really good at something the game's design puts very little value in being good at, and sacrifices what the game consistently rewards to get there. It's kind of like being an expert shoemaker in a world populated by snails.
And the problem is widespread enough in the game itself that it's probably easier to fix the ship than try to fix the game (and the result might be more fun anyway).
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I would love to see more targeting of systems. It was a staple of Star Trek, yet way under used in game. And as long as it?s confined to Sci-Ships and taking up BOffs powers it will stay under used.
The whole Crew system needs to be reworked. But, yes dead crewmen need to stay dead.
This gets into Risk vs. Reward. STO has no risk, everything is Time vs. Reward. I am fine with high risk as long as the reward is worth it. Risk of forced space-dock repairs for new super rare shiny, sounds good to me.
Due to having a replicator on board I would say this is not need.
My 5:
1. Star trek was all about ship and crew. I would like to see more things centered on this. More things to do in your ship and more interaction with the crew.
2. More Exploration.
3. Rework of the BOff powers. Why do I have a dozen BOffs with the rank of Commander on my ship (Of course only five in a slot)? It seems every ship in Star Fleet is captained by an Admiral and crewed by Commanders.
4. I would like scanning to be expanded. There should be color coded glow lines pointing to different things in the area, not just the nearest.
5. Random Patrols and Alerts that mean something.
Bonus ? Many, many, many more episodes. Tons more, please.
The fact of the matter is this, on the shows - torpedos were unlimited. The same way that nobody ever had to use the bathroom and people only ever ate when it gave you some good time for dialog between two characters. They never just ate for the sake of it, pissed for the sake of it or resupplied for the sake of it.
Deal with it.
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/agree
Ive wondered why this isn't already in place. Of course space is vast and one could go years w/out finding a friendly port, but in established sectors, imho, there should be SOME kind of backwater station there somewhere. It's not bad though, when you throw in the "call freighter" for good measure, but, it would be cool.
They had 38 at the start of The Cloud. The writers paid attention to that for a long time, too. Aside from a continuity hole in scorpion, going into Year of Hell, they had no more than 13 by meticulous counting. On screen dialog gave the number at 11 (due to an ambiguous scene in Basics during which either 2 or 4 were fired this lines up fine). The ones used in YoH presumably were returned by the time travel reset, leaving them 11 after that episode. They went on to fire 58 more torpedoes by the end of the series (not counting transphasics, which presumably came from future-Janeway's ship and not Voyager's stock).
I thought my meaning was obvious. I never claimed or pretended my numbers were accurate or factual, surely you've been in conversations where people say "99% yada-whatever.." to mean the vast majority?
Forgive me for expecting such conversational tropes to be correctly interpreted.
And kirk201o - Sorry if you feel I blamed you for something you didn't say, I respond to multiple people in a post. If the point doesn't relate to you, it wasn't intended for you
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um my last post was my first contribution to this thread lol so im not confused lol
1) Drastic, unannounced nerfs effecting in flow
2) Too much loot
3) Only 2 outflow of items: Discard or sell to Vendor
4) Exchange useless except for small amount of items, like ships and (very) rare weapons/ tac consoles
5) Too many different type of currencies, each with their own specialized use and limited interchangability
Ad 1) Most recent one CD on Tour of Universe
Ad 2) In some missions I get twice full inventory
Ad 3) Some suggestions to get more outflow: destroyed after major ship damage, destroy after X amount of usage, consumed when upgrading (higher Mk or quality) or modifying proc another similar item
Ad 4) Partly related to previous items. Most(80-90%??) sell/ are offered around 50% value, Lockbox ships for x M, blue/purple weapons (antiproton, plasma) for 30k-2M
Interface is very clumsy; you have to know what to look/query for before you can find it, like ship names (especially ships), Boffs with trait X lvl III, doffs with spec X are not queryable.
Frequent wrong result due to incorrect labeling of items:eg [Disruptor Dual Cannons Mk VII [Acc]x2] is actually Polaron Mk XI [CrtD]
Ad 5) EC, FC, Dil, ZEN, Lobi, GPL, Favors, Marks. ZEN is the only one with value. Probably how Cryptic likes it because they get RL currency for those.
Iv been wanting this integrated in game over a year ago when i first started playing.
If this happened, you, me, and alot of other players would enjoy it.
To me it would just make a feel of the game being a whole lot more realistic then it already is.
And at the same time i agree with you. It is far to late to add something like this in-game.
Also if i would like something like this in-game, I would dislike it too.:)
It would just be to much of a waist and time, and so cost effective. Who knows how much it would cost to resupply on torpedoes and energy for beams, depending on how much you want and/or need.
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I agree with everything, these additions to the game would be wonderful including my proposal on my sig.
I hope STO get's better ...
What other ideas do people have they would like to see in game?
1) I would like to see a overhaul on ground combat fluidity. It still feels clunky.
2) More ship customization options. Both visual as well as Boff stations. Example: Fleet assault cruiser, 1 eng, 1 tac, 1 science mandatory with the rest being open for what ever a person wants. I wouldn't expect every ship to be like this but a couple would be cool. As for visual customization, I would like to see a "Ship nacelle bundle" or something similar on the zen store to add that extra bit of customization to our ships. I think a Cheyenne class would look pimp with regent nacelles...it would.
3.customizable ship interior would be fun. I know this one is not a big priority, however I was remembering that it was a lot of fun when SWG was still out. When you went to another players housing it had a sense of ownership. It also could be very entertaining when you really didn't feel like doing anything but relaxing. You have a weapon you really like put it on your wall (well a copy of it for display purposes only), you get a ship model as part of a reward put it in the ready room on display where you want to put it, you were given a tribble rug by some dignitary, rock that on your floor.... it would also make the "invite to bridge" more useful. As it is now its more like, "dude check out the inside of my ship...yeah it looks just like yours.....cool, right".
4.Open up sector space to look like space instead of going from one box to another.
5.More STF's
Most of my suggestions are for visual changes. I agree that bugs and game mechanics should come first with content second and then these extra's. I do remember how large a part some of these things were in a few of the other games I have played that have added extra customization and the zen store could make butt load of money by adding additional bundles for such things to there store.
Either way the game is a blast to play but those are my 5.
2) Captain Klaa hair for the KDF
3) Bikinis for all females all factions
4) FEs that include picard and kirk in them
5) Playable breen , cardassian toons for F2P and Tholian toons for LTS like the liberated borg thing they get.
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*Kill all enemies button
*Treasure room
* Phase through walls not just during rubberbanding
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thats it i dont really care about anything else nothing they can add to game would be any differant to any other mmorpg .i have however felt it was very wasteful that i can have 20 ships in my hanger and only ever benefit from 1