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Do not do Peanut labs surveys. They are trash.

akistosakistos Member Posts: 16 Arc User
edited August 2013 in C-Store, ZEN, and Promotions
If you're like me, you've spent a little disposable income on the game because you enjoy it. you have not and cannot spend hundreds of dollars on this game. maybe you're thinking of hitting up some of those free zen offers so heavily thrust into your face every time you visit the forums.

I may not be your friend, and you may not know me, but please, i'm trying to save you trouble when i say:

Do.
Not.

these surveys have impossible qualification requirements. At first i was honest. As i continued getting rejected (almost always after the questions about my race and socio-economic status) i became a little less so. And then, significantly less so. I eventually presented myself as the single greatest representative of as many minorities as i could cram into my genealogy records. This got me about twenty minutes into a survey until it asked me if i planned on buying a smart phone, a tv, a computer, or a major electronics purchase.

I, in a fleeting moment of idiocy, didn't click any of them and instead chose "none." I was immediately dropped on the "we're sorry, you don't qualify" landing page. I was given nothing for my time.

These surveys are a joke, and i wouldn't be surprised if they weren't nearly as legitimate as they present themselves to be- perhaps they're designed to be incomplete-able and serve only as demographic or purchase-history information gathering services for an agency that's really, really interested in what star trek nerds spend their money on.

So please. If it comes down to a choice between not getting any zen at all or buying into Peanut Labs horrible lies and THEN not getting any zen at all, just keep repeating "nope" as you walk away.
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    pherraspherras Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Oh man I could have written this post word for word lol. I know exactly how you feel my friend . thanks for giving me a good laugh especially about the single greatest representative thing. that was gold.
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    gholendhorgholendhor Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yup the surveys are a big waste of time,and some of the free zen offers are a joke.Like the one that gives you like 600 zen if you spend $15.00 at their site.they obviously didn't do the math.if you have $15.00 to spend you might as well just buy zen straight off as you will get more as that will give you 1500 zen
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    havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I burned through some 8 or so surveys and only managed to complete 2, got a free 135 zen.

    I was more tempted to apply for the random discover card that was offering some 5300 zen! (rly tho, don't do that either)

    EDIT: Hah!! I just knocked out the 'registering consumer electronics' survey. Was a damn long one, but got some zenny for my trouble!!
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    breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If it's any consolation, you lasted longer than I did. I just started with the "getting to know you" intro survey... and decided that it would be easier and a lot more fun to go grind dilithium :P

    At least grinding dilithium lets you actually go play the game, lol.
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    oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I never bothered with them to begin with. Like so many other "free" surveys and the well known Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes, they are nothing more than a marketing attempt to get you to buy something.
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    doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Beating these things is an art. With experience, you'll learn to understand what they want to hear and how to tell them that. Remember, lying is a skill like any other and requires practice.
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    oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Beating these things is an art. With experience, you'll learn to understand what they want to hear and how to tell them that. Remember, lying is a skill like any other and requires practice.


    With this post, I find your avatar very appropriate. :D
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    red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I sincerely hope nobody is actually paying much money for these surveys. The incentive to bald-faced lie to get zen is awe-inspiring. In fact, since everyone seems to be being rejected, I wonder how they get any data at all.
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    lykumlykum Member Posts: 382
    edited July 2013
    scored a few thousand zen through the big name deals like netflix, quit doing it since then. still catch a few vids every now and then for a few zen..
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    betayuyabetayuya Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    red01999 wrote: »
    I sincerely hope nobody is actually paying much money for these surveys. The incentive to bald-faced lie to get zen is awe-inspiring. In fact, since everyone seems to be being rejected, I wonder how they get any data at all.

    almost %100 of services like this are pay per click/pay per download

    google it's self is an advertizing firm, not a search engine, %97 or so people poll wise did not know that
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    betayuyabetayuya Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    they have a very interesting history, but in the end, almost all of their real money is made by web advertisement, they even declined to sell their tech to Microsoft, which gave birth to both Bing and the Android platform, just a piece of history :o
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    ajm1067ajm1067 Member Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeah do not use Peanut Labs for your ZEN.

    I did complete a few small transactions, then when it came to a big one, the transaction didn't register. Despite telling them that, they kept asking for screenshots but without saying what of - aside from which what could I supply? A screenshot of something that didn't happen?

    I had to keep banging away at them with the email confirmation details from the third party the transaction was with until they gave me the ZEN I was supposed to have, but their customer service was crass and their system for registering online transactions clearly fails on occasions, so that aside from the questionable value of what you get in return for some of these surveys, and things, they evidently "lose"some transactions which you have to then really fight them for so that they properly credit you with the rewards.

    So yeah, don't use them, because they'll at least try to TRIBBLE you over, one way or another.
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    astreiossastreioss Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I really wish PW could be more serious in dealing with these companies that clearly cheat their customers.

    I followed a link to Toluna to create a survey account, as well as a few other links to perform surveys for toluna and all stated I was supposed to receive X amount of zen within 1 day.

    I have done several of these links with great care as to the answers to make sure I perform it correctly.

    More than a week has passed and I havent seen a single zen added to me.

    REMOVE scam survey companies from your site, its disgraceful that you let PL smudge your site with false advertising.
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    supergaminggeeksupergaminggeek Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You know what the horrible part is? Answering the questions, and not even be eligible for rewards.

    Then when you are, you must give away your personal info for endless match.com and Viagra.
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    drum82drum82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Couldn't agree with the OP more. Did a ton of surveys before, got nothing at all. Being slightly naive I decided to do several today - I was stunned that I got a massive 30 zen for one of them.

    But yeah, having googled "Perfect World Zen" - I've found most of the replies come back with the word "scam" as well. I'm just honestly surprised they haven't deleted this thread of yours already for speaking the truth! XD
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    jklindersjklinders Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Got a couple of thousand zen from the surveys with very little to no negative consequence. But there was an offer on there today that I was sure glad i read the fine print on. the buggers wanted to send me a scanner, presumably to scan every bar code of every purchase I make and I ran away from that like my posterior was on fire.

    Read the fine print. The pre screening is getting a bit better. I have not been rejected after more than 2 mins of pre screening since BranFlakes sent the update about how the offers were improved.

    Still a few bad apples there.
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Those offers are a scam, plain and simple. What people tend to forget is that since STO went F2P we're not dealing with a "respectable" business anymore. STO under PWE is no different than clicking on some blinking flash banner for a random asian social-MMO-grinder that demands you to pay money for every thrid click you do.

    I once, before the "change" to the peanut lab thing, I sat through some free offers worth around 200-ish Zen. In the end, I got 7 (!) Zen for my "efforts", all the others were "unfortunately" not registred or led to 404 pages or simply didn't pay.

    Now I checked and they obviously changed something which now seems even more suspicious: All of those "Zen for free" offers for my region are now written with grammar issues, missing punctuation and overall broken (in my case) German.

    Don't touch that.
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    jklindersjklinders Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The issues could be region based. I seriously had very little issue with most of the offers I filled out. It could easily be region or language based.
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    doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    red01999 wrote: »
    I sincerely hope nobody is actually paying much money for these surveys. The incentive to bald-faced lie to get zen is awe-inspiring. In fact, since everyone seems to be being rejected, I wonder how they get any data at all.
    You don't get it, do you? They don't want data. They want you to confirm the data they already have. By rejecting everyone who doesn't fit the data they want to have, they can get a survey to confirm that "110% of viewers agree with us". They don't want THE truth. They want THEIR truth.
    You know what the horrible part is? Answering the questions, and not even be eligible for rewards.
    The reward is getting your Zen. Everything else is a lie. So...when they ask you for your personal information? Lie, lie, and lie some more.
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    aphantasmaphantasm Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The reward is getting your Zen. Everything else is a lie. So...when they ask you for your personal information? Lie, lie, and lie some more.

    You may not even get your Zen then. In the last few days I've completed four offers, one of them a survey, one was a real age quiz, one was a thing to get an auto insurance quote and one was download and install the Real.com video downloader (Same manufacturer as Real Player). Did all of those and nothing. I submit a ticket and I get a cut and paste response. I'm seriously thinking of filing a complaint with BBB. Peanut Labs is pretty much committing Fraud by offering us Zen and then not following through.
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    jklindersjklinders Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Peanut Labs is a saint compared to this sponsor pay TRIBBLE they have going now. PWE made a mistake switching to these clowns. That is unless they are getting more money out of it which won't last seeing as these idiots seem to think paid offers are free and reimburse nothing.
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    sussethraisussethrai Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Filled out a few surveys, including one that took half an hour. The most recent one took me all the way to the end, then had a redirect that dropped me with a bad link. Never got any Zen out of any of them. Peanut Labs is worthless TRIBBLE, and wading through the endless questions for no Zen is a waste of time.
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    voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    There's a few things to keep in mind with "free offers" like this:

    1) Never fill out personal information. Use a "junk" email address with false information when creating the email address.

    2) NEVER download any app or program through these offers, even if it says it's from a "trusted source" or from the makers of "insert well known company here"

    3) Never participate in offers where you apply for a credit card or to check your credit score. The more times you do these the more it can negatively effect your credit score, especially if the application is rejected or cancelled, especially with Credit card applications.

    4) Several offers require you to read this or that and then click on an image on <insert page number here>. BEFORE clicking on the image make sure you hover your mouse above the image so you can look at the link address in the lower left hand corner of your browser. Make sure it is linking to a url and not a file.

    5) have cookies set to off or ask for permission.

    6) Never participate in offers that require you to link with facebook or other social media. If there is optional fill form using facebook/social media or sign up with facebook/social media, never do so enter the information yourself.

    7) trust your gut, if it sounds too good then it probably is.

    8) stick to free offers like "watch this video" or listen to this internet radio station for 30 mins and then type captcha after time elapsed.

    9) Surveys are designed to gather as much information as possible with the least amount of reward given as possible. More often than not when they say "sorry you do not qualify..." they have already collected exactly what they wanted.

    10) Understand these "free offers" are designed to maximize their profit via traffic (clicks), purchases or information gathering/sharing/selling and not to actually reward you for your time. They will often time "reward" you will free rewards for trials or purchases when the reality is there are actually better/cheaper deals out there that you are sacrificing for little gain.
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    jklindersjklinders Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Agreed on most counts voicesdark.

    I figured the sponsor would verify email addresses against the account though.

    Giving these clowns real money is not a good investment. Better to just spend that on a PWE card to add zen yourself.

    No software from these things could be anything but a virus. Surveys are often a time sink for no good result.

    I had such good initial success with over 2500 zen from the offers last month I just found the change to sponsor pay who are true criminals to be a nasty turn. If PWE doesn't reign them in or get a real partner it is going to severely hurt their chances of getting a subscribe out of me. Taking my time is one thing but if they partner with people who will take my money without recompense then TRIBBLE that.

    just mentioning that I had only used free offers from Peanut Labs with no ill consequences from simple careful internet practice. Neither Peanut Labs nor Sponsor Pay are trustworthy enough for real money.
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    marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It never occured to me to actually try those things, always faster to get zen just by trading dil for it. Even without buying character slots you can have 3 characters now, thats 24k dil per day. No point in these offers for measly 3 zen at a time or whatever.
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    havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    marc8219 wrote: »
    always faster to get zen just by trading dil for it....No point in these offers for measly 3 zen at a time or whatever.

    If 1 zen is equivalent to 110 dili, any offer of 25 zen or more easily outpaces what you can farm in the game for a comparative hour of time. Then there's other benefits like you don't have to refine the zen, should you decide to convert it to dili and there's no daily cap, plus being able to transfer it to another game entirely.

    The trick is determining which endeavors are fruitless and not wasting time on them. I'm up to about 960 zen (or 105,600 dili) for maybe 6 hours of toil over 4 days, sticking to surveys, video ad reviews, e-letters and the occasional auto insurance quote.

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