I hope not. I want a peaceful solution with the Voth, it's more Trek, especially since they are from Earth.
Also being from Earth, I have no idea what they have to do with KDF, Romulans, or even the rest of the Federation. The Voth should be allies against the Iconians, not enemies.
If the Voth get turned into just another Villain of the week after their great episode, I'm gonna flip a table.
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It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Nah, the terms weren't good. The Voth leadership rejected the premise offered by the existence of the human race and the evidence offered, and put forth an ultimatum in order to force the dissenting paleontologist into recanting his ideas.
So I would classify the relationship as 'icy'. The Voth aren't comfortable with something that contradicts their Doctrine, and may very well decide to simply eliminate any evidence of said contradiction.
It's an interesting idea, really, and it would be interesting to try fighting the Voth in this game. They seemed even more technologically advanced than the Borg in many respects.
They're easily the most advanced race we've met, they probably blow the Iconians out of the water. 20 million years of history and progress.. though that progress has been somewhat hampered by doctrine. which said Transwarp was impossible.
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I don't see the Voth being related to the Vorn. Only because if they were would we not have had a copy of Vorn DNA and traced it back to earth just like the Voth DNA does?
They may join the Voth as far as being a reptilian race. But not actually being related by blood and ancestry.
And the Voth did seem to have morals especially considering their advancement over the federation beaming an entire starship inside their Cityship. They still chose to let Voyager go inspite of the trhat to Doctrine. I dont see the Voth as being evil. Cynical and set in ther wways but not destructive or wasteful. And even hindered by Doctrine for advancement 65million years still would put them way ahead of any other species in the galaxy. Including Borg or the Iconians. One could conceive the Iconians in retreat upon meeting the Voth in the distant past. And the Voth being the very reason for this retreat. Iconians only returning upon having superior technology and numbers to attack the Voth and threaten their existence. In 65 million years the Voth would have had many enemies at some point! To have survived 65millions years shows adaptivity and resilience along with superiority!
Pretty much. And since the City ship sort of definied the Voth, there would be little point in having them in the game without their city ship.
Nothing's impossible. Let's use a little imagination here. Our shuttles roam the inside of the Vault, which is mind-bogglingly massive. Replace that tiny shuttle with a full-sized starship and you've got the interior of the Voth City Ship.
Nothing's impossible. Let's use a little imagination here. Our shuttles roam the inside of the Vault, which is mind-bogglingly massive. Replace that tiny shuttle with a full-sized starship and you've got the interior of the Voth City Ship.
Similar things have already been done in foundry missions.
The Vauudwar would work much better - Voyager didn't leave them on particularly good terms, they have subspace tunnel technology, and they had a superiority complex to boot.
The Vaadwaur just doesn't have the technology to go up against the Alpha Quadrant. They need to rebuild their society and obtain modern technology before they can actually become a threat. Having subspace tunnel technology doesn't help if you can't even defeat a modern ship.
Considering that in-game, we already have certain exploration missions that hint at a Voth-like presence probing into our space, and Stahl himself has hinted at wanting to get the Voth into the game proper, and they'd make a perfect antagonistic faction (with also more benevolent members in it, too!), it's highly likely that the Voth are indeed the creators of the megastructure from the concept art we've seen from earlier in the week.
THe Krenim weapon ship as you named it doesnt exist, it was deleted from the timeline in the episode.
correction it was NOT deleted.... the temporal incursion threw the timeline back to a point where the warship was still a piece of concept, blueprint.... it wasn't destroyed... only temporarily delayed in construction.
We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
Well, I'm pretty sure that Cryptic has not problem with adding any new NPC faction as an enemy and saying Iconians are behind them, I mean, Right now, Iconians look more like a free Diabolus Ex Machina (TVTropes link) for Cryptic to introduce new enemies, So I really wouldn't be surprised by anything.
The Voth aren't comfortable with something that contradicts their Doctrine, and may very well decide to simply eliminate any evidence of said contradiction.
Or in otherwords, this turns into Halo...
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All of what occurred in Dragon's Teeth happened during Voyager's stint in the Delta Quadrant. STO is set in 2409; Dragon's Teeth took place during 2376. The Vauudwar have had thirty-three years to get their act together.
The Vauudwar, yeah, I remember. They were a few hundreds, sitting on a long dead empire, with 1thousand years old tech. Not to mention the hundreds of species that want them dead. Only 53 shuttles successfully left their lost world.
Do you really think they can be a threat to anyone ? Especially to the alpha quadrant ? I don't think they could threaten anyone.
cryptic always finds a way to add to the many enemies we all ready have and voy did leave them on a semi-good terms
From the Voth Matriarch in the Distant Origin Episode:
"It would be in your best interest if I never saw you again"
The only reason voy was let let go was because the Voth Scientist retracted his claims on the distant origin theory. Had he not the voyager crew was on its way to a Voth Penal colony with the scientist.
Even if the Vaaudwar somehow recovered from all the loses, That huge structure in the concept art still looks like something out of their reach, We know, However, That the Voth wouldn't have any trouble building things like that.
THe Krenim weapon ship as you named it doesnt exist, it was deleted from the timeline in the episode.
However, if you pay attention at the end, when the guy is interrupted by his now live wife, he was working on tablets with the same informational displays as what was on the Krenim weapon. So it would be fairly easy to posit some idea where the develop is effectively "re-invented" in this timeline.
Mmm... I've noticed the concept art in the state of the game features a cold, snowy planet, I guess that is possibly one point against Invasion of Gornar, Although it probably is part of the Adventure Zone, And if Gornar is featured, It probably would be in the Gorn-Voth Featured Series.
Does anyone have a screenshot of the Voth City asset?
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Also being from Earth, I have no idea what they have to do with KDF, Romulans, or even the rest of the Federation. The Voth should be allies against the Iconians, not enemies.
If the Voth get turned into just another Villain of the week after their great episode, I'm gonna flip a table.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
cryptic always finds a way to add to the many enemies we all ready have and voy did leave them on a semi-good terms
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They're easily the most advanced race we've met, they probably blow the Iconians out of the water. 20 million years of history and progress.. though that progress has been somewhat hampered by doctrine. which said Transwarp was impossible.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
They may join the Voth as far as being a reptilian race. But not actually being related by blood and ancestry.
And the Voth did seem to have morals especially considering their advancement over the federation beaming an entire starship inside their Cityship. They still chose to let Voyager go inspite of the trhat to Doctrine. I dont see the Voth as being evil. Cynical and set in ther wways but not destructive or wasteful. And even hindered by Doctrine for advancement 65million years still would put them way ahead of any other species in the galaxy. Including Borg or the Iconians. One could conceive the Iconians in retreat upon meeting the Voth in the distant past. And the Voth being the very reason for this retreat. Iconians only returning upon having superior technology and numbers to attack the Voth and threaten their existence. In 65 million years the Voth would have had many enemies at some point! To have survived 65millions years shows adaptivity and resilience along with superiority!
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Pretty sure the city ship would dwarf spacedock. That ain't happening.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Nothing's impossible. Let's use a little imagination here. Our shuttles roam the inside of the Vault, which is mind-bogglingly massive. Replace that tiny shuttle with a full-sized starship and you've got the interior of the Voth City Ship.
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The Vaadwaur just doesn't have the technology to go up against the Alpha Quadrant. They need to rebuild their society and obtain modern technology before they can actually become a threat. Having subspace tunnel technology doesn't help if you can't even defeat a modern ship.
THe Krenim weapon ship as you named it doesnt exist, it was deleted from the timeline in the episode.
correction it was NOT deleted.... the temporal incursion threw the timeline back to a point where the warship was still a piece of concept, blueprint.... it wasn't destroyed... only temporarily delayed in construction.
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Or in otherwords, this turns into Halo...
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
Do you really think they can be a threat to anyone ? Especially to the alpha quadrant ? I don't think they could threaten anyone.
From the Voth Matriarch in the Distant Origin Episode:
"It would be in your best interest if I never saw you again"
The only reason voy was let let go was because the Voth Scientist retracted his claims on the distant origin theory. Had he not the voyager crew was on its way to a Voth Penal colony with the scientist.
Terms were not so great.....
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However, if you pay attention at the end, when the guy is interrupted by his now live wife, he was working on tablets with the same informational displays as what was on the Krenim weapon. So it would be fairly easy to posit some idea where the develop is effectively "re-invented" in this timeline.
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