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Does the Oeion Slavers still loot since LOR

omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
edited August 2013 in Klingon Discussion
Do the Orion Slavers still loot, because I've gotten nothing for awhile now, no contraband, no commodities, no EC, nothing. So is it just me or is this happening to other people?
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    cdpbscdpbs Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Nope....Its a Bug and was moretimes reported since LoR release.

    No Reactions from Dev's side known.
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    sneyepersneyeper Member Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The elites steal just fine.
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    dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited June 2013
    My Normals don't steal as much as they used to, but I've stopped using them in favour of BoPs.

    The rate is just too low to bother. I'm still trying to decide between advanced BoPs and advanced Slavers.

    Is the problem only Advanced?
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    cdpbscdpbs Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I have the Advanced Orion Slavers and this Problem. Currently they're clearly bugged
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    omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Okay so its not just me then, thanks.

    Good to hear that the Elite Slavers steal just fine.
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    ajma420ajma420 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    ok good to know I wasnt the only one who noticed this trend. I was hoping it wasnt a super-nerf, good to know its a bug
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    dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited July 2013
    A bug on the Klingon side may as well be a Nerf for the speed they will fix it.

    In a year or so somebody if going to make a post saying they buffed the Orion Slavers so they now steal supplies. (Not Everyone is in a T5 fleet to get Elites).
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    msk5msk5 Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Hopefully with KDF Romulans such as myself joining the chorus of "fix thine ****, Cryptic" this bug will be squashed, instead of left to destroy a hangar pet. I have a JHEC on my Romulan but with all the people foaming for the Scimitar, it'll become a point of outrage pretty quickly among them as well. I think until they're fixed I'm going to switch to Advanced Interceptors, maybe even drone ships if I buy the Scim.
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    gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Advanced are broken, I've been reporting it for weeks. I tweeted Bran and he claimed the team is investigating. I'm not a programmer, but I'm sure there is an easy way to adjust the steal rate. Unless of course the code is a complete mess and they have no clue where the Slaver code is located.
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    ficrficr Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    dknight0001 wrote: »
    A bug on the Klingon side may as well be a Nerf for the speed they will fix it.

    In a year or so somebody if going to make a post saying they buffed the Orion Slavers so they now steal supplies. (Not Everyone is in a T5 fleet to get Elites).

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    omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well last night I had eight contraband 3 of which I'm pretty sure came from my sdvanced slavers woke up this morning to gain 5 more from doff missions and yet somehow ended up with 21 contraband, Ihave no idea how that happened.

    Also has anyone noticed that some times rarely your slavers shoot you with s light blue energy beam now?

    Like what the heck is that?
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    majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I did a whole Romulan patrol today and they didn't steal a thing. I am using the advanced ones what a waste of dilithium. Considering the cost you'll think they would fix this asap.

    This and a few other things have made me consider leaving the game for a while, just the recent buff to enemies last Thursday has made the game very unenjoyable for me, getting killed with one shot (having full health and shields) is not fun. They have again screwed something up with that, plus the slavers. Talk about incompetent.
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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well, I can't say I really noticed this since I was leveling a new char. post LoR and now got busy gathering lolnuts :D, so I haven't really used my carriers in a while. I have the adv.slavers on the Corsair for my Orion, but haven't paid much attention to the performance in the last period since LoR.

    Any news on developments of this particular issue people are reporting?
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    captainbaileycaptainbailey Member Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Advanced Orion Slavers have been crappy like this since before LoR, they were nerfed awhile back. They are totally useless and not worth a damn. Save you dilithium and buy a different hanger pet.
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    emt27emt27 Member Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Since the romulans and the summer event I haven't had time to farm STFs... but as the summer event begins to close...

    Farming is not fun, but a necessary elementdue to the way this game is created. That is why I paid for the very rare versions on 3 toons. Orion slavers made me love the KDF, they made it possible to get my 8k dilith per toon much easier than it would be on the Fed side..

    Please fix ASAP.. if anyone can who reads this (branflakes perhaps)
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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    captainbailey wrote: »
    Advanced Orion Slavers have been crappy like this since before LoR, they were nerfed awhile back. They are totally useless and not worth a damn. Save you dilithium and buy a different hanger pet.

    When you say they were nerfed, do you mean they were nefred on purpose or is it somekind of a bug related issue?? :confused:
    I'm asking because I haven't heard of the Slavers being nerfed and I must say I'd be shocked if this change was done on purpose.
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    omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Actually I think it bug related, because I keep reading that the developers are looking into it.

    The good news is my Slavers finally stole something.

    A rare commodity, Tulaberries!

    Its supposed to be useful in doff missions.
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    stongbadsstongbads Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    omegaphallic wrote: »
    The good news is my Slavers finally stole something.
    A rare commodity, Tulaberries!

    But the proc rate looks to be so low, that it's not even worth equipping these hangars. I ran the following during my Tau Dewa Daily to test the elite Slavers.
    • 1st Run - Remained Cloak and kept sending waves of Elite Slavers to do the deed.
    • 2nd Run- Remained Cloak and kept sending waves of Elite Slavers to do the deed
    • 3rd Run - Tagged enemy ships with Plasma Shockwave DoT and let Slavers kill everything.
    • 4th Run - Brought down enemies to 50%, cloaked and allow slavers to kill.
    • 5th Run - Brought enemies down to 75% life, cloaked and let Slavers finish.

    I did get 3xTulaberries from the second wave of the 1st run, but nothing for the rest. These elite Orion Slaver hangars are bugged. There was plenty of time for these pets to proc a steal.
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    omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So far I've stolen 6 tulaberries and 6 Jovenite. No very much. Zero contraband.

    Still I wouldn't call Elite Slavers useless, they seem to drop quantum mines more regularily then advanced and they shoot out alot of photon torps. Plus they have beam arrays and that equals high dps.

    I have both Elite Slavers and Elite Interceptors and while the interceptors are greatvat cc the Slavers do tons if damage. Also take into account that it doesn't depend on dual cannons which on pets don't get used much.
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    alriksteralrikster Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I am using advanced slavers and so far ive gotten a good share of contraband.
    Every 2-3 missions i run i find 3-6 contraband in my inventory.

    If there is an issue with slavers its only the elite slavers that need a tweak.

    Also lol @beam arrays = high dps and slavers do tons of damage.

    From my point of view the slavers are the lowest dps fighter out there and fighters generally do pretty low dps with beam weapons.
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    catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    omegaphallic wrote: »
    Well last night I had eight contraband 3 of which I'm pretty sure came from my sdvanced slavers woke up this morning to gain 5 more from doff missions and yet somehow ended up with 21 contraband, Ihave no idea how that happened.

    Also has anyone noticed that some times rarely your slavers shoot you with s light blue energy beam now?

    Like what the heck is that?

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    zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Based on my experience using advanced and elite the % chance just seems so low that you'd have to grind for 20 hours a day just to get it to drop something.
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    csx6245csx6245 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The slavers have been broken since LoR, but there getting a massive nerf with the carrier UI patch I posted a thread "Undo the slaver changes" on what I found out on tribble.
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=804141
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    aarons9aarons9 Member Posts: 961
    edited July 2013
    yes they got nerfed since today..

    i usually run a good foundry mission that lets you use slavers to fight enemies..

    this mission takes about 40 to 70 minutes to finish.. i have been running this mission 3 or 4 times a day non stop for about 4 months.

    before today this mission averaged about 30 contraband.. 40 or so provisions/medical/arrays and about 10 or 15 probes and prob close to 10,000 ec..

    now today, i get the ec just fine.. maybe a little more.. seems i get 400 every couple minutes.
    you only get contraband in singles.. running the mission 5 times got me 3 contraband..

    you only get provisions/medical/arrays in 2s or 3s.. i got about 10 of those in all 5 missions.
    and i have gotten 1 probe.


    this is with advanced slavers.


    the drop rate has gone down, way down.

    in the same time i should be at 100 or more CB.. 2 or 3 stacks of provisions/medical/arrays of 250 and 200 or so arrays.
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    smoovioussmoovious Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    What the slavers obtain should be more relevant to what they are being taken from too...

    ...why just last night I was fighting a borg sphere, and my slavers somehow grabbed 6 Entertainment Provisions from it.

    Not sure I want to know what borgs do for 'fun' over there... .. . :D

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    badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    aarons9 wrote: »
    yes they got nerfed since today..

    i usually run a good foundry mission that lets you use slavers to fight enemies..

    this mission takes about 40 to 70 minutes to finish.. i have been running this mission 3 or 4 times a day non stop for about 4 months.

    before today this mission averaged about 30 contraband.. 40 or so provisions/medical/arrays and about 10 or 15 probes and prob close to 10,000 ec..

    now today, i get the ec just fine.. maybe a little more.. seems i get 400 every couple minutes.
    you only get contraband in singles.. running the mission 5 times got me 3 contraband..

    you only get provisions/medical/arrays in 2s or 3s.. i got about 10 of those in all 5 missions.
    and i have gotten 1 probe.


    this is with advanced slavers.


    the drop rate has gone down, way down.

    in the same time i should be at 100 or more CB.. 2 or 3 stacks of provisions/medical/arrays of 250 and 200 or so arrays.

    The loot nerf sucks as it is...but the HULL HP nerf is utterly unacceptable!
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    starakusstarakus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    My advanced slavers from dil store don't seem to loot at all. I am fighting things way higher than me and still nothing. Either they are broken or the drop rate is so horribly bad that I have not recieved anything in many encounter raids.
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    aarons9aarons9 Member Posts: 961
    edited August 2013
    starakus wrote: »
    My advanced slavers from dil store don't seem to loot at all. I am fighting things way higher than me and still nothing. Either they are broken or the drop rate is so horribly bad that I have not recieved anything in many encounter raids.

    they loot just fine..
    i get tons of provisions, medical supplies, probes, arrays, ec..

    its the contraband they reduced..
    they used to grab stacks of 6 contraband.. every few minutes.
    now they only grab 1 at a time and it takes hours to get some.

    in that time you get almost 100 of the others and prob around 30k ec.
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    emt27emt27 Member Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I haven't had any luck.. but I haven't played them much because they weren't picking up anything. Guess I will have to run them for a day and pay close attention, but until then I still stand by what I've said elsewhere.

    "Many carrier pet fixes, but orion slavers were not in the list.. perhaps it doesn't effect enough players... except the MANY that have posted here and other threads


    PLEASE FIX THE ORION SLAVERS. They very rarely steal anything"
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    starakusstarakus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well mine started working but they are still broken imo. In two missions (not in a team) I got 2 provisions, 1 water purification system, and 300 credits for my hours time. I supported the raids, sent in boarding team, crowd control, advanced slavers doing their meesly dps. For an hours time I get <1000 credits worth of loot and no drops because not in a group and not dps obviously. Slavers should loot more often than 3 items in 1 hour. It would be nice to play a class that is not dps oriented but still can pull in some money while helping do the things that dps do not and that is crowd control and debuffs. At this rate of return i'll never see that 32k dilithium again, I could have got 3 advanced fleet weapons for an escort and had 2k to spare as a comparison. Simply broken mechanic.
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