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romeowhiskey4
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So I have one main toon, got all nice shineys and everything he could ever want.
I have a klink toon that is lvl 50, but neglected
I have a caitian fed toon, lvl 50 but neglected
I have a romulan toon, lvl 50 and this is going to be neglected as well.
The reason? The grind...
5 levels of omega, not so bad... omega mars are easy to come buy and a lot of fun to get.
But then there's the Romulan marks... oh dear God.... Also the sheer cost of dilithium for the decent stuff.
So basically... Am I being lazy OR am I justified in thinking that the grind is the worst idea EVER??
Make better Romulan missions...please!!! OR... have all STF's with a choice of marks at the end. I really don't mind doing hive/ISE/KASE/CSE over and over cos it's always on the go... but saving rom ships from tholians that take ages to spawn, or flying round a damned giant space station shooting tiny ships that offer little to no resistance and looong cooldown timers to read the mission briefing..(it doesn't take 30 seconds to read 6 lines!) for less than 30 marks at a time at the end....Oh man...that's just depressing me thinking about it... and the 20 hour cd between projects...
Cryptic - You cannot continue to entertain your entire audience with a pathetically small number of endgame missions. Update your foundry to include player made STF's, cos I am sure whilst your devs may be busy putting out fires left right and centre to not put all efforts into new missions, there are a large number of your player base that ARE willing to do it. I would urge you to consider this possibility.
Anyone else in the same boat???
I have a klink toon that is lvl 50, but neglected
I have a caitian fed toon, lvl 50 but neglected
I have a romulan toon, lvl 50 and this is going to be neglected as well.
The reason? The grind...
5 levels of omega, not so bad... omega mars are easy to come buy and a lot of fun to get.
But then there's the Romulan marks... oh dear God.... Also the sheer cost of dilithium for the decent stuff.
So basically... Am I being lazy OR am I justified in thinking that the grind is the worst idea EVER??
Make better Romulan missions...please!!! OR... have all STF's with a choice of marks at the end. I really don't mind doing hive/ISE/KASE/CSE over and over cos it's always on the go... but saving rom ships from tholians that take ages to spawn, or flying round a damned giant space station shooting tiny ships that offer little to no resistance and looong cooldown timers to read the mission briefing..(it doesn't take 30 seconds to read 6 lines!) for less than 30 marks at a time at the end....Oh man...that's just depressing me thinking about it... and the 20 hour cd between projects...
Cryptic - You cannot continue to entertain your entire audience with a pathetically small number of endgame missions. Update your foundry to include player made STF's, cos I am sure whilst your devs may be busy putting out fires left right and centre to not put all efforts into new missions, there are a large number of your player base that ARE willing to do it. I would urge you to consider this possibility.
Anyone else in the same boat???
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Nukara marks are slightly harder however...
Bleed Green and Gold
Get to T2 Rom (crit chance + console)
Get to T2/3 Omega (Cutting beam + Console, T3 if you want XI borg set)
Get to T2/4 Nukara (Just for the passives)
I just get everything to T2 and be done with it, it's pretty quick and easy.
Kirk's Protege.
Would be nice to have an option for reputation to be account bound, or at least make rep GEAR account bound!....
I am in the same boat. Season 7 launched a MASSIVE grindfest. For me, they took away the fun from the game, at least as far as STF's go and the lucky chance I might get some gear after completing one. I love the way it worked.
As far as this rep system....bad idea not letting this new system be account bound. I will only play one character now myself. Im surprised they have not made this system account bound yet. If it were, I would be spending alot of real $$ on my other characters, I suppose Cryptic does not want money.
And PS..do not listen to the people claiming it sooo easy to get marks other than Omega, it is not. And not everyone, (a majority) want to go chasing bunny rabbits in a Trek video game, sorry.
Also, If you are having trouble with the Grind, there is an exploit that I found a while ago to help alleviate that. I was surprised how few people recognized this.
Link to my exploit thread.
It makes ALL of the endgame much easier to deal with. :cool:
For Romulan marks, it IS easy. Just because you don't 'want' to do it doesn't mean it is a hard thing to do. You have a choice. You can either do the Tau dewa daily, and other qued missions to get your marks, OR you can run around for 1 min and 30 seconds to scan things once a day. It's not Cryptics fault you have CHOSEN not to do it the easy way.
Come join the 44th Fleet.
startrek.44thfleet.com[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Seriously. Romulan Marks are by FAR the easiest to get. You get get 400 marks every 5 days doing epohhs alone. The fact that you don't like epohh tagging does not mean that Romulan Marks are grindy. It means you don't like it. Big difference.
::WARNING:: This game is not intended for use as a source of self-esteem.
I have 7 characters and only my main and favorite alt will ever see T5 in all rep.
"I'm drunk, whats your excuse for being an idiot?" - Unknown drunk man. :eek:
There are ways to earn a bunch of nukara and romulan marks as well, you just have to be willing to spend the time to get them, and while they don't really reward you in dilithium as much as omega missions, so most tend to run them the least.
For me I try and find alternatives like epohh hunts, trading in risa birds and sector defense for short quick romulan marks, while using the mission ques to get ahead on my nukara marks.
These little ways of finding alternatives help me to keep focused on spending time to earn fleet marks for my fleet.
And to give you an idea how effective it has been so far, all 3 reputations are at 4 working towards 5 now, for a 3-4 month old toon if even that old.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
For EPO tagging you have to move all the way out to another sector. You queue up for 1 eSTF during mark event you are done plus the dilithium you get.
Nukara, the marks and the reputation alike are a joke.
Personally I stopped making alts when season 7 hit and I am now trying to force play reputation on my romulan character.
I could have been done weeks ago but moving the sliders around manually after I already beat it all half a year ago is just torture.
So a few times a week I finally get around to it and one day I will be done with it.
No more new characters no more reputation
Lol yeah I hear ya, and that is why I will only ever have 3 characters!!!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
In my day you had to grind to even have the chance to be able to grind! Spend hours spamming in chat LFG just so you could spend another 20 mins running across the world to where you were going to camp out to grind mobs for hours on end. And if you were lucky you might even gain a level! And if you weren't you might lose one! And you know what? WE LIKED IT!
You kids have to spend 20 a mins day gathering some marks and in 36 days BAM you're done forever! In 36 days we were lucky to have gained 5 levels! AND WE LIKED IT!
And you don't even need to grind! The hardest content in the game can easily be done with rewards from Featured Episodes that can be run in a couple of hours, or just purchased from Fleet Starbases. A COUPLE OF HOURS! In my day you couldn't even earn 1 skill point in fishing in a couple of hours!
You can play an hour a day and be competitive on the very top end. Back in the day you had to TRIBBLE in a sock and set your alarm to the estimated queue times just to barely hold on to staying on par! Sleep? For WUSSIES! AND WE LIKED IT!
Dang whippersnappers don't know how good they have it with their casual gaming. AND GET OFF MY LAWN!
Sounds like you had to walk uphill to school, both ways!
Lol!
.......
Come join the 44th Fleet.
startrek.44thfleet.com[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
About sums up the complaining about the grind plus a huge LMFAO to boot. There is a nice variety in what to grind in this game to get the same results unlike other games where you had to do 1 single grind over and over until you puke or pass out. And the rep grind in this game is optional unless you are some hardcore TRIBBLE pvp player and even then it is optional when you can do private pvp and have no rep gear allowed as rule.
Only thing I would like for rep grind is lose the idiotic projects for rep and just make it an XP where you can only earn X amount a day for advancement and anything after goes towards the next day. just do the events and gain advancement instead of having to do a project. add rewards like the borg nueral processors that you collect X amount of and turn in for things like rep gear, dilithium, or more rep XP depending on which the player would rather have. It's not like they dont know how many days they want the rep grind to last and be able to set a limit on how much XP is used per day. This could allow people to grind one rep for a couple days and turn in * item for more XP and not have to do it for the next week so they can do something else instead. And it also allows players to be able to take a day off for something like a pvp tourny and not have to worry about rep or the idiot projects.
The rep projects are great as a fleet system for leveling a fleet so everyone has to participate but stupid for individual projects.
"I'm drunk, whats your excuse for being an idiot?" - Unknown drunk man. :eek:
Without inspiration... chasing bunnies repeatedly is not inspiring, doing the same missions over and over again for little to no reward other than to add to the grind is not inspiring.
It is boring.... introduce marks into the foundry missions, story missions... maybe then people can have more fun! More variation! A game is to be PLAYED.
And to those who say its not hard to grind it, I wish I had your patience and inability for sheer boredom of repeating the same process over and over and over and over and over and over and over again....
The rep system has pvp and pve connotations, intentional I am sure... but the gear... more grind.
Cryptic, take warning...games in this day and age that rely SOLELY on grinding will not last forever... Bring back the old system where you might have gotten a special component... bring the challenge back! Bring the good old days back ffs!!
And drag the person who thought it would be a quick and simple way for players to get their stuff by grinding reputation into the street and shoot them in the face.............too far?
+1 :cool:....
^^^ 100% agreed ^^^
I also agree with the rest. I play for the story content. I steadfastly refuse to grind.
You grind for better gear so you have good enough gear to grind for better gear so you have good enough gear to grind for better gear so you have good enough gear to grind for better gear so you have good enough gear to grind for better gear so you have good enough gear to grind for better gear so you have good enough gear to grind for better gear so you have good enough gear to grind for better gear so you have good enough gear to grind for better gear so...
No thank you. You don't need the "goodest and bestest" to play PvE story content.
Command Officers of the USS Wyvern (from left to right):
Aurellia Eshkah (Tactical); Indigo Shae (Engineering); Nysiay Chysiayki (VA, Ship Captain)
Jeclia Sek (Science); Vally Mantivour (Security)
I hated doing the New Romulus ground missions...when the winter event came out I raced like mad and turned in winter epohhs for Rom marks. Raising the common ones on New Romulus is really just as easy and "poking bunnies" with a team can be entertaining.
Omega marks...just do Kit Ground a couple times...you will have enough marks for a few days.
Raising birds gives you your choice of marks...do the hunt, get eggs and favors...raise birds for marks and use favors to buy outfits and then sell extra favors on the exchange...get marks and EC...woot!
I have 13 characters...I don't know what possessed me, but 10 have T5 Rom and Omega...3 of those also have T5 Nukara and another 3 have T4 Nukara. The rest are all gathering marks for whatever reputation system/s they need. I won't bother starting a reputation system until I have 1500 marks. Spending millions of EC a week is bad enough, I don't want to grind for marks at the same time.
romulan with epohh is easy,
so the only one you need to fight for is nukara and the after reward is nukara marks and dil same as finishing romulan rep.\
and birds, right now risian birds make all marks ez
the only real hard grind is doff missions for me, raising science, engineering, recruiting etc all the way to t4 (100k each) takes forever unboosted.
if you have problems with dilithium just shoot a few more omega missions and sell marks and neurals for dil, (500 or 1000) easy always to max
if you have problems with ec just use exchange to sell all purple equipment you get from every few omega stfs. they can be worth 500k-1mil easy, not much but it adds up.
Those that whine must be democrats expecting PW to "give" them everything with out working for it
ummm...I don't know about that. I have been playing STO for 17 months and of my 13 characters I have 6 Fed Ambassadors and 4 KDF Marauders. My 3 new characters haven't been around long enough to have much CXP...but my 10 older toons have 7-11 of the doff sections to level 4.
I do The Vault Ensnared 2-3 daily for rom/nuk marks during bonus rep.
Then a few STF's(E) for omega marks.
Thats all the marks you need until there all T5
For extra marks your going to need for gear do the Epohh grind daily and the birds on Risa.
Doff as many missions you can for expertise, your going to need millions.
Of course your going to need a boat load of DIL to go with it.
The problem mentioned earlier and that of liking is real.
It is not fun tagging epohs. It is a meager enjoyment, done entirely for earning romulan marks. Especially after the first time. Also, in this activity, none of your other ingame accomplishments and skill matter, like they do in the elite STFs. Thus, earning Omega Marks is not a chore or a grind, because these are appropriately challenging missions for your character, enjoyable in themselves even after the thousandth run. There is a whole lot of difference between epoh tagging and eliteSTFs. So yes, it is absolutely necessary and entirely justified the expectation to have similar level content for the non-omega mark systems.
so pick apart everything and um forget it, was just tryin to help the guy out.