marks and the likes are easy enough to grind but the forced wait times are a complete pain and annoyance, i also preferred the old system on ds9 to aquire gear than the forced rep system which i find plain terrible.
marks and the likes are easy enough to grind but the forced wait times are a complete pain and annoyance, i also preferred the old system on ds9 to aquire gear than the forced rep system which i find plain terrible.
Agree with that. Bring back the good old days.When 4-5 days after you hit 50 you had Omega/Maco/Honor Guard ground and space.
Agree with that. Bring back the good old days.When 4-5 days after you hit 50 you had Omega/Maco/Honor Guard ground and space.
the new system is only bad as you grind to unlock stuff you dont even want to use, the old system you could at least work to get the marks/processors you needed and pick exactly what it was you wanted to use.
i think OP what your actually saying is there to much currency in the game . this was a highlighted issue when the game was first released and has crept back in again
energy credits
fleet credits
romulan marks
nakura marks
omega marks
dilithium
argueably data for crafting
lobi
the grind i dont mind i sorta accept it in a mmorpg but how much more currency do they intend to add before it gets silly
All MMO's have some degree of grind associated with them. It is the nature of the beast. How many times have you played a dungeon or other activity in another game that might result in a certain desired loot drop only to receive everything else in its loot table? The reputation system changes that by allowing you have a known and finite number of times you have to run certain activities to achieve the goal of the item and bonuses offered. It seems to me that the real complaint is that people can project exactly how long it will take to get to tier 5. The reality is that when many want something, they want it now.
The devs cannot possibly generate content at the rate at which people consume it, so they incorporate these types of mechanics which require repeating content such as STF's or fleet actions. As others have posted, obtaining tier 5 is not necessary to enjoy the game. But, is a nice long term goal. Consider, once you have completed tier 5 in all reputation lines, achieved rank 4 in all of your DOFF lines, completed all storyline missions, acquired all Mark XII gear for your ship, what will you do? Even if the answer is "PvP until my eyes bleed" you are going to be repeating content. So, I would suggest sitting back and relaxing and doing the things that please you at the moment and not focusing on the end result.
omg "for me" its slow, slower by far than rep system stuff.
so pick apart everything and um forget it, was just tryin to help the guy out.
Not trying to "pick it apart" or pick on you. I was just saying it really isn't that hard...but then my nickname is doffing queen....and recently egg queen:P
Eitherway, whilst my primary character is at T5 rep on everything but Nukara, I won't be grinding for any of my other characters - firstly because I simply can't face it, secondly because (as already stated) I really don't think that the Fleet equipment is significantly inferior to it.
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Seriously. Romulan Marks are by FAR the easiest to get. You get get 400 marks every 5 days doing epohhs alone. The fact that you don't like epohh tagging does not mean that Romulan Marks are grindy. It means you don't like it. Big difference.
The problem mentioned earlier and that of liking is real.
It is not fun tagging epohs. It is a meager enjoyment, done entirely for earning romulan marks. Especially after the first time. Also, in this activity, none of your other ingame accomplishments and skill matter, like they do in the elite STFs. Thus, earning Omega Marks is not a chore or a grind, because these are appropriately challenging missions for your character, enjoyable in themselves even after the thousandth run. There is a whole lot of difference between epoh tagging and eliteSTFs. So yes, it is absolutely necessary and entirely justified the expectation to have similar level content for the non-omega mark systems.
It lasts 1:30 secs. I can't imagine having 1:30 secs of meager enjoyment is a game-breaker for you. Make a game out of it, try to see how many you can get, dont just stop at 30, try just tagging ones of the same color, try only jumping to move, w/e.
Or is your complaint that you aren't shooting at something? I for one enjoy the rare times I don't have to pew pew at things in this game. But if that's your playstyle than I can understand why you don't like it. Again, though that does not make it a 'grind'. And if you're defining grind as something you repeat endlessly the same can be applied to eSTFs (which I personally find boring because they're so scripted). Kithomer, ISE, CSE got very old, very quick for me. Besides, if you LIKE running pew-pew missions for 10-15 min instead of 1:30 of tagging, go run some 'choice of mark' stuff in the PvE queue. Problem solved, no?
Seems to me your complaint isn't really that Romulan marks are grindy so much as it that you want additional end-game elite PvE content. Which is a fair complaint to have, it just doesn't bear on how grindy/annoying/hard it is to get Romulan Rep.
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I have had a level 50 toon for about a month now and have hardly touched end game gribd for the first part at level 50 its confising cos when you ding it basicly wham here are all these but no real explanation on what the **** to do.
Ive never done a quest on new romulas, only about tier 1 from all reps still looking for a guide i can understand to usher me to understanding.
I dont find it that bad, all mmo's are grind fests at the end never gonna change , we the community burn through content so fast .
Faster than it takes to create the content. So thats how were stuck, god bless the foundry
grind is inevitable on any mmo, the issue now is you grind for pointless stuf or stuff you dont even want or need.
using the old system you grinded for marks/processors and had the enjoyment of picking exactly what equipment you wanted, it was efficient, i didnt mind it.
now tho on the new system i just cant find the enthusiasm to bother on my new romulan character, and my federation char only recently hit the level where i could aquire equipment i already had in the first place on the old system making the grind as a whole completely boring and useless as i gained nothing from it.
the old way was better, you still grinded only you gained rewards you wanted, the new system feels like a needless system set in place just to delay people, problem is it also frustrates you into wanting to just not bother.
imho the passives you get just arent worth all that hassle, they may be useful but their still not worth it in the long run.
It lasts 1:30 secs. I can't imagine having 1:30 secs of meager enjoyment is a game-breaker for you. Make a game out of it, try to see how many you can get, dont just stop at 30, try just tagging ones of the same color, try only jumping to move, w/e.
Or is your complaint that you aren't shooting at something? I for one enjoy the rare times I don't have to pew pew at things in this game. But if that's your playstyle than I can understand why you don't like it. Again, though that does not make it a 'grind'. And if you're defining grind as something you repeat endlessly the same can be applied to eSTFs (which I personally find boring because they're so scripted). Kithomer, ISE, CSE got very old, very quick for me. Besides, if you LIKE running pew-pew missions for 10-15 min instead of 1:30 of tagging, go run some 'choice of mark' stuff in the PvE queue. Problem solved, no?
Seems to me your complaint isn't really that Romulan marks are grindy so much as it that you want additional end-game elite PvE content. Which is a fair complaint to have, it just doesn't bear on how grindy/annoying/hard it is to get Romulan Rep.
Keep the grind if you like but PLEASE this... I can compromise...
Don't you all agree that Reputation gear should be account bound!
Then at least If you only need one or two pieces of gear for one character for example, you can just grind to get them on your main character and transfer them over.
Don't you all agree that Reputation gear should be account bound!
Then at least If you only need one or two pieces of gear for one character for example, you can just grind to get them on your main character and transfer them over.
totally agree...never happen though...else PWE wouldn't be able to get their grubby little hands on our cash for dilithium purchases, via zen... :mad:
I would love to see a set of STFs for each Rep. This means creating Tholian STFs and Romulan STFs. This would give the Rep systems more focus and purpose.
It all wouldn't be such a problem if the reputation grind wasn't 'mandatory' and instead purely optional.
Why mandatory? Because of the skills you unlock. There are no alternatives, there are no choices. Those passive skills simply make your character and your ship stronger. So most players don't want to miss out on those, anybody doing pvp can't possibly ignore them, and thus they grind through the system.
Take away the passive skills and the reputation grind becomes mostly optional.
You don't want any of the Romulan reputation equipment unlocks? Fine, no need to grind that reputation. Same with Omega and Nukara.
You might just as well equip yourself in the fleet store.
The recycling of lame content to add to reputation grind is the problem. If there was something new and exciting to play for the Tholian content wouldn't people be ok with it?
There are a lot of recycled missions with slapped on Nukara marks, they weren't good to start with. They are all quite easy. Some are pretty buggy.
There is a single elite mission which just isn't a lot of fun, its been nerfed to be not elite like everything else.
There is 0 elite content for romulan marks, which is why people grind epohhs.
Omega and the STFs are.. old old old content, the new STFs are broken and haven't been fixed since LoR launched.
geez, I can't understand why people are fed up of the rep system. I have one main with Nukara rep, my others just can't be bothered, its so incredibly boring.
And drag the person who thought it would be a quick and simple way for players to get their stuff by grinding reputation into the street and shoot them in the face.............too far?
Nah, I think you pulled back at exactly the right moment... you're good :cool:
Around the time when "Legacy of Romulus" was released, I deleted four out of five of my avatars. I started a new Romulan tactical officer. Once I saw the limited access to duty officers, bridge officers, clothing, and ships, I tried to buy certain items from the exchange. As a result of players charging insane prices, I decided that the cost to run a Romulan was a little too expensive. Purple duty officers and consoles are being sold for insane amounts of ec. Even though the price for certain items is extreme, I tried to push forward with the reputation system. After a few weeks of repetition and cool down timers, I started to feel as if "Legacy of Romulus" didn't add anything distinctively new. While the new missions and ships are welcome, the endgame functionality has remained consistently repetitive. Regardless about what ship you are driving, the Romulan players are either Federation or KDF officers. If you played a tactical, engineer, and science Federation officer, you know exactly what its like to play a KDF and Romulan officer. You are just wearing a new skirt and driving a new ship.
Upon feeling the heavy repetition and grind, I started to prioritize my overall goals.
What do I want to accomplish?
How can I get the most out of the money, which I have invested into "Star Trek: Online"?
Do I want to repeat the same tasks across multiple avatars?
How will the overpriced exchange items affect my overall progress?
Will all the grinding interfere with having fun?
How can I progress while remaining casual?
Do I have the time and energy to balance multiple avatars?
Does the "Legacy of Romulus" feel different enough, so I can justify why I am spending money?
After feeling the weight of those questions, while matching them up with reality, I decided to delete my level fifty Romulan avatar. Since I have a lot of money invested into the Federation, I started and leveled a new engineering officer. During the engineer's leveling process, I purchased zen to finish fleshing out the faction. I bought new ships, inventory slots, bank slots, bank wide slots, etc... Once I got everything into place, I went back and consolidated everything. If something was taking up space, I tossed it without giving it a second thought. I asked myself, "What do I need? Where am I going? How will I get there? What unclaimed c-store items do I own?"
Here is where my avatars are now:
Tactical Officer
Federation: Bajoran
Level 50
Omega Rep: Tier 5
Romulan Rep: Tier 3
Nukara Rep: Tier 3
Engineering Officer
Federation: Vulcan
Level: 50
Omega Rep: Tier 3
Romulan Rep: Tier 3
Nukara Rep: Tier 3
When you have a Vulcan avatar with access to everything, you do not need to start over with a Romulan. As a result of buying c-store items for one avatar, I ended up buying them for all of my characters. If I want a ship with a cloak, I can always buy a c-store version of the Defiant.
Instead of owning several weak avatars, I am concentrating on building two strong ones.
Federation Romulans are Vulcans with forehead ridges.
The only thing that really bugs me about the rep system is, the lack of expertise. Doing three rep's drains it terribly, and once you get to the tier your after. You need more expertise, I know the mirror event has high pay out, same as Borg invasions. Just a few of the usual grind missions, like the Romulan patrol, could at least reward some expertise, other than from what you kill.
Other than that annoyance, I don't find the reps that bad. I tend to play six of my alts and earn them all their 8k dilithum daily, and their marks. Well not all six for marks, as three are tier five everything already.
I actually don't mind the grind because I am doing in slowly and making progress sufficient to keep doing it without feeling obsessive. It's about an hour or so a day for me, which is manageable and fine.
I played back in 2010 but left after a few weeks. I can imagine that if you have a level 50 Fed player with a lot invested, it would likely be silly to invest in a new racial character -- that makes sense. I, however, left in 2010 because I could not play a Romulan. The Romulans were always my favorite ST race, and at the time of release the Fed side was, imo, a bit limited due to the overall game design, and KDF was even much more limited. So while I got a character to 50, I didn't stay, and didn't invest much.
Now, with the Romulans playable, I am quite happy because I like playing a Romulan. My fed character was also a Vulcan (next best thing), but again I did not have much invested in it. I much prefer flying the Romulan ships and wearing the Romulan gear and so on -- it's Romulan, not Fed.
As for grinds in general, grinding for extended periods is generally only tolerable in games where you have a very strong social network. Old school EQ was like that. Lineage II was kind of like that, too, although I never cared much for that. Entropia is like that too but I don't want to play a game that uses real currency as the base currency -- a bit too real for my taste. Even EVE is like that when people are mining or ratting or what have you. Grinding in an atmosphere where you don't have a lot of socialization going on can be a real drag, on the other hand.
The only part of the grind that bothers me is waiting 20 hours between projects. If I've got the resources I should be able to get the tiers quickly. Adding the arbitrary day long wait is BS.
Grinding for Omega Marks is easy enough for me since the STF's are all that interests me now...but the damn Romulan Marks, that's a different story.
The Rep system, for whatever reason it was created, failed for me.
I don't like it and it took true determination on my part to get 1 toon to Tier 5 on 1 Rep (Rom strangely enough).
The thought of getting all my toons to T5 forced me to lower my expectations.
No, they all won't have Mk XII Omega/Maco/KHG/Borg/whatever else is in there.
The only good thing about the Rep is it makes you appreciate the Exchange...and that's about it.
No cookie for the Rep system or it's creator (which I assume is Satan).
EDIT: Not having the unlocks account-wide is just plain wrong. Change it, Cryptic.
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Grinding for Omega Marks is easy enough for me since the STF's are all that interests me now...but the damn Romulan Marks, that's a different story.
The Rep system, for whatever reason it was created, failed for me.
I don't like it and it took true determination on my part to get 1 toon to Tier 5 on 1 Rep (Rom strangely enough).
The thought of getting all my toons to T5 forced me to lower my expectations.
No, they all won't have Mk XII Omega/Maco/KHG/Borg/whatever else is in there.
The only good thing about the Rep is it makes you appreciate the Exchange...and that's about it.
No cookie for the Rep system or it's creator (which I assume is Satan).
EDIT: Not having the unlocks account-wide is just plain wrong. Change it, Cryptic.
Whereas it is the opposite way round for me. Rom marks are easy, I have tier 5 on one character and still have over 2.5k marks to convert to dilitihum, it was over 3k after completing the tier 5 rep and that was before getting the extra 750 for the tier 5 Rommy mission. This is also after store unlocks and item purchases, console and elite scorps.
Omega marks are a pain as the only way I have of getting them is the Defari invasion. STFs seem to be a tad too over dramatic for me from reading the threads here, so I am put off them.
They seem to have take the worst from WoWs rep system and ignored the good. In the rep systems there once one character has gotten to exaulted (tier 5) they can buy tokens from one of the NPCs that you can send to another character that makes getting the rep with that faction easier. Maybe they could look at putting this in the rep store it would certainly give me something else to spend the marks on instead of converting them to dil.
Given that the marks are a currency the character would still have to do the content to earn them to buy/unlock the items they want. This would mean no skipping the content but atleast it won't feel as much of a grind.
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Agree with that. Bring back the good old days.When 4-5 days after you hit 50 you had Omega/Maco/Honor Guard ground and space.
Yup, my Romulan is the last new character I will make, regardless of what new factions they add.
Just bored to tears of the rep grinds.....
the new system is only bad as you grind to unlock stuff you dont even want to use, the old system you could at least work to get the marks/processors you needed and pick exactly what it was you wanted to use.
energy credits
fleet credits
romulan marks
nakura marks
omega marks
dilithium
argueably data for crafting
lobi
the grind i dont mind i sorta accept it in a mmorpg but how much more currency do they intend to add before it gets silly
The devs cannot possibly generate content at the rate at which people consume it, so they incorporate these types of mechanics which require repeating content such as STF's or fleet actions. As others have posted, obtaining tier 5 is not necessary to enjoy the game. But, is a nice long term goal. Consider, once you have completed tier 5 in all reputation lines, achieved rank 4 in all of your DOFF lines, completed all storyline missions, acquired all Mark XII gear for your ship, what will you do? Even if the answer is "PvP until my eyes bleed" you are going to be repeating content. So, I would suggest sitting back and relaxing and doing the things that please you at the moment and not focusing on the end result.
Not trying to "pick it apart" or pick on you. I was just saying it really isn't that hard...but then my nickname is doffing queen....and recently egg queen:P
Presumanly you don't PvP or do No-win.
It's not the gear you need, it's the passives.
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No, they certainly can't, but with the Foundry, we can.
With the Foundry they have already solved the problem of creating new content, unfortunately they are not using the sollution that's already there.
All they would need to do is reward Marks for Foundry-missions.
It would be so easy.
No more Grind.
No more replaying the same missions over and over and over again.
The game would be fun again.
We could earn the marks by playing new content, and they don't even have to create the content themselves.
It lasts 1:30 secs. I can't imagine having 1:30 secs of meager enjoyment is a game-breaker for you. Make a game out of it, try to see how many you can get, dont just stop at 30, try just tagging ones of the same color, try only jumping to move, w/e.
Or is your complaint that you aren't shooting at something? I for one enjoy the rare times I don't have to pew pew at things in this game. But if that's your playstyle than I can understand why you don't like it. Again, though that does not make it a 'grind'. And if you're defining grind as something you repeat endlessly the same can be applied to eSTFs (which I personally find boring because they're so scripted). Kithomer, ISE, CSE got very old, very quick for me. Besides, if you LIKE running pew-pew missions for 10-15 min instead of 1:30 of tagging, go run some 'choice of mark' stuff in the PvE queue. Problem solved, no?
Seems to me your complaint isn't really that Romulan marks are grindy so much as it that you want additional end-game elite PvE content. Which is a fair complaint to have, it just doesn't bear on how grindy/annoying/hard it is to get Romulan Rep.
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Ive never done a quest on new romulas, only about tier 1 from all reps still looking for a guide i can understand to usher me to understanding.
I dont find it that bad, all mmo's are grind fests at the end never gonna change , we the community burn through content so fast .
Faster than it takes to create the content. So thats how were stuck, god bless the foundry
using the old system you grinded for marks/processors and had the enjoyment of picking exactly what equipment you wanted, it was efficient, i didnt mind it.
now tho on the new system i just cant find the enthusiasm to bother on my new romulan character, and my federation char only recently hit the level where i could aquire equipment i already had in the first place on the old system making the grind as a whole completely boring and useless as i gained nothing from it.
the old way was better, you still grinded only you gained rewards you wanted, the new system feels like a needless system set in place just to delay people, problem is it also frustrates you into wanting to just not bother.
imho the passives you get just arent worth all that hassle, they may be useful but their still not worth it in the long run.
Keep the grind if you like but PLEASE this... I can compromise...
Then at least If you only need one or two pieces of gear for one character for example, you can just grind to get them on your main character and transfer them over.
totally agree...never happen though...else PWE wouldn't be able to get their grubby little hands on our cash for dilithium purchases, via zen... :mad:
Why mandatory? Because of the skills you unlock. There are no alternatives, there are no choices. Those passive skills simply make your character and your ship stronger. So most players don't want to miss out on those, anybody doing pvp can't possibly ignore them, and thus they grind through the system.
Take away the passive skills and the reputation grind becomes mostly optional.
You don't want any of the Romulan reputation equipment unlocks? Fine, no need to grind that reputation. Same with Omega and Nukara.
You might just as well equip yourself in the fleet store.
There are a lot of recycled missions with slapped on Nukara marks, they weren't good to start with. They are all quite easy. Some are pretty buggy.
There is a single elite mission which just isn't a lot of fun, its been nerfed to be not elite like everything else.
There is 0 elite content for romulan marks, which is why people grind epohhs.
Omega and the STFs are.. old old old content, the new STFs are broken and haven't been fixed since LoR launched.
geez, I can't understand why people are fed up of the rep system. I have one main with Nukara rep, my others just can't be bothered, its so incredibly boring.
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Around the time when "Legacy of Romulus" was released, I deleted four out of five of my avatars. I started a new Romulan tactical officer. Once I saw the limited access to duty officers, bridge officers, clothing, and ships, I tried to buy certain items from the exchange. As a result of players charging insane prices, I decided that the cost to run a Romulan was a little too expensive. Purple duty officers and consoles are being sold for insane amounts of ec. Even though the price for certain items is extreme, I tried to push forward with the reputation system. After a few weeks of repetition and cool down timers, I started to feel as if "Legacy of Romulus" didn't add anything distinctively new. While the new missions and ships are welcome, the endgame functionality has remained consistently repetitive. Regardless about what ship you are driving, the Romulan players are either Federation or KDF officers. If you played a tactical, engineer, and science Federation officer, you know exactly what its like to play a KDF and Romulan officer. You are just wearing a new skirt and driving a new ship.
Upon feeling the heavy repetition and grind, I started to prioritize my overall goals.
What do I want to accomplish?
How can I get the most out of the money, which I have invested into "Star Trek: Online"?
Do I want to repeat the same tasks across multiple avatars?
How will the overpriced exchange items affect my overall progress?
Will all the grinding interfere with having fun?
How can I progress while remaining casual?
Do I have the time and energy to balance multiple avatars?
Does the "Legacy of Romulus" feel different enough, so I can justify why I am spending money?
After feeling the weight of those questions, while matching them up with reality, I decided to delete my level fifty Romulan avatar. Since I have a lot of money invested into the Federation, I started and leveled a new engineering officer. During the engineer's leveling process, I purchased zen to finish fleshing out the faction. I bought new ships, inventory slots, bank slots, bank wide slots, etc... Once I got everything into place, I went back and consolidated everything. If something was taking up space, I tossed it without giving it a second thought. I asked myself, "What do I need? Where am I going? How will I get there? What unclaimed c-store items do I own?"
Here is where my avatars are now:
Tactical Officer
Engineering Officer
When you have a Vulcan avatar with access to everything, you do not need to start over with a Romulan. As a result of buying c-store items for one avatar, I ended up buying them for all of my characters. If I want a ship with a cloak, I can always buy a c-store version of the Defiant.
Instead of owning several weak avatars, I am concentrating on building two strong ones.
Federation Romulans are Vulcans with forehead ridges.
Other than that annoyance, I don't find the reps that bad. I tend to play six of my alts and earn them all their 8k dilithum daily, and their marks. Well not all six for marks, as three are tier five everything already.
I played back in 2010 but left after a few weeks. I can imagine that if you have a level 50 Fed player with a lot invested, it would likely be silly to invest in a new racial character -- that makes sense. I, however, left in 2010 because I could not play a Romulan. The Romulans were always my favorite ST race, and at the time of release the Fed side was, imo, a bit limited due to the overall game design, and KDF was even much more limited. So while I got a character to 50, I didn't stay, and didn't invest much.
Now, with the Romulans playable, I am quite happy because I like playing a Romulan. My fed character was also a Vulcan (next best thing), but again I did not have much invested in it. I much prefer flying the Romulan ships and wearing the Romulan gear and so on -- it's Romulan, not Fed.
As for grinds in general, grinding for extended periods is generally only tolerable in games where you have a very strong social network. Old school EQ was like that. Lineage II was kind of like that, too, although I never cared much for that. Entropia is like that too but I don't want to play a game that uses real currency as the base currency -- a bit too real for my taste. Even EVE is like that when people are mining or ratting or what have you. Grinding in an atmosphere where you don't have a lot of socialization going on can be a real drag, on the other hand.
The Rep system, for whatever reason it was created, failed for me.
I don't like it and it took true determination on my part to get 1 toon to Tier 5 on 1 Rep (Rom strangely enough).
The thought of getting all my toons to T5 forced me to lower my expectations.
No, they all won't have Mk XII Omega/Maco/KHG/Borg/whatever else is in there.
The only good thing about the Rep is it makes you appreciate the Exchange...and that's about it.
No cookie for the Rep system or it's creator (which I assume is Satan).
EDIT: Not having the unlocks account-wide is just plain wrong. Change it, Cryptic.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
Whereas it is the opposite way round for me. Rom marks are easy, I have tier 5 on one character and still have over 2.5k marks to convert to dilitihum, it was over 3k after completing the tier 5 rep and that was before getting the extra 750 for the tier 5 Rommy mission. This is also after store unlocks and item purchases, console and elite scorps.
Omega marks are a pain as the only way I have of getting them is the Defari invasion. STFs seem to be a tad too over dramatic for me from reading the threads here, so I am put off them.
They seem to have take the worst from WoWs rep system and ignored the good. In the rep systems there once one character has gotten to exaulted (tier 5) they can buy tokens from one of the NPCs that you can send to another character that makes getting the rep with that faction easier. Maybe they could look at putting this in the rep store it would certainly give me something else to spend the marks on instead of converting them to dil.
Given that the marks are a currency the character would still have to do the content to earn them to buy/unlock the items they want. This would mean no skipping the content but atleast it won't feel as much of a grind.