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The Mogai retrofit needs more boff stations.
age03
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The Mogai retrofit needs more boff stations it should have ltcmder tac and sci.
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USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
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USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
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and 10 space doff slots
Make it so!!
Mogai is perfect as is. If you want to play full tac, go buy a full tac ship. not a tac/eng ship.
This Dev Blog explains the ideas behind the warbirds. It specifically states
However... Destroyer is not an escort... It is a destroyer. A cruiser/escort hybrid. So... naturally you'd have a Cmdr Tactical to stress the tactical nature of the Mogai. But you also have the LtCmdr Engineering to stress the tanky nature of a destroyer. As a result, it's perfectly fine as is.
However, if you want a pure tac heavy plain and simple? Ha'feh. That will have everything you need.
Agree ... I blow up plenty of things in my Mogai refit.
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I already did buy this ship and it doesn't have enough boff station compared to other ships of it class even T3 got more.This is my my Rom tac as it has TT,YT,RF.O other tac slot has TT,B,Delta.
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A T3 ship has more boff slots than a T5? WHAT?
lets see.
T3 Mogai:
3 tac / 2 eng / 2 sci / 1 sci
Total: 8
Valdore
3 tac / 1 eng / 2 sci / 1 sci / 2 uni
Total 9
T5 Mogai
4 tac / 2 tac / 3 eng / 1 sci / 2 uni
Total: 12
T5 Ha'feh
4 tac / 3 tac / 2 eng / 1 eng / 2 sci
Total:12
Where are these more consoles your talking about?
Oh so you mean they have more tac slots? well that isn't true either.
T3 Mogai 3 tac, Valdore, 3 Tac (5 with uni), T5 mogai, 6 tac, 8 with uni. T5 Ha'feh 7 tac.
So even then, the mogai has more tac slots than any other ship in the game. Scimitar could get 8 too. 4/3/1.
So because your a tac, the mogai should be the ha'feh and they should be exactly the same just because you want it?
Sorry, no. It doesn't work like that. Just because i want the Assault Cruiser to have a 14 turn rate because i like turning fast doesn't mean it's going to get it.
You want a fully tac based ship. That is the Ha'Feh, or the Scimitar. The Mogai is NOT an escort. It is a destroyer. Destroyers are Tac/Eng based. If you don't like that, then don't use the ship. If you bought it without knowing it was that, then you should of read the stats before buying it.
I know i'm coming off a little strong here but i want you to understand. Just because you want a ship to be a certain way does not mean it's going to. None of these ships are ever going to change. they are what they are.
If you want a ship with 4/3 tac boffs. get and use the ha'feh or scimitar. Otherwise learn how to use the mogai the way it is. it's an excellent ship and can easily be on par with the ha'feh in DPS even without extra tac slot.
Just thought I'd stress this point.
Are you drunk? Its comparable to the Armitage, only that the Ensign is universal instead of tactic.
It has the best layout you can get. With Cmdr. and lt. Tactic, you get 2xTT1, CRF1+2, AP Beta 1+3 (and can easily switch to an BO with CSV 1+2 if needed, during a fight).
Then it got cruiser-like defense thanks to lt.cmd. Engineering. And the it good three healskills with lt.Sci and ens. universal (which should be used as a sci).
Dont see your prob.
That would give the ship more function and utility and it wouldn't be any worse than it is now. Be nice to put some higher level science skills in a warbird for a change!
Dhelan Warbird Retrofit. Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird (and variants). Ha'nom Support Warbird. There's your higher level science skills/potential for it. Mogai is a combat oriented DESTROYER. It makes sense for it to have Tactical and Engineering focus. Leave it's BOff layout alone, it's working fine as is.
No but I bet you are and it is nothing like the Armitage layout as I got one of those.This has less than an oddy or a borta for a $20 ship.That is right $20.00.I don't like wasting money maybe all of you do i don't live with my mommy and daddy.
It need more boff slots heck even my B'rel Bop has more or is even but being all univsal.
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You obviously do like wasting money as the Boff seating hasn't been changed and wasn't a secret when you spent that money on a ship that you don't like the boff seating on.
Mogai is fine, if you want more Tac seats use a different ship. Ha'feh and T'Varo would both offer the ability to slot a Commander and Lt commander Tac Boffs.
And the HEC really isn't that much different from the Mogai for Boff seats. The HEC has a Commander, Lt, and Ensign Tac, Lt Commander Eng, and a Lt Sci. The Mogai made the Ensign tac into a Sci and made the Lt Sci into a universal.
The Oddy/Bortasqu doesn't even offer a commander tac, the only tac seat they have is Lt, though you could use the Lt Commander Uni and the ensign Uni as tac seats I suppose.
Maybe next time before you come posting totally wrong information on the forums you can try doing some research.
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Ok let's go over this carefully.
Mogai Heavy Warbird Retrofit
Cmdr Tactical (4 BOff slots)
Lt Tactical (2 BOff slots)
LtCmdr Engineering (3 BOff slots)
Lt Science (2 BOff slots)
Ens Universal (1 BOff slot)
Total BOff slots: 12
Odyssey Tactical Cruiser
LtCmdr Universal (3 BOff slots)
Cmdr Engineering (4 BOff slots)
Lt Science (2 BOff slots)
Lt Tactical (2 BOff slots)
Ens Universal (1BOff slot)
Total BOff slots: 12
Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird
Cmdr Tactical (4 BOff slots)
Lt Engineering (2 BOff slots)
Lt Science (2 BOff slots)
Ens Universal (1 BOff slot)
LtCmdr Universal (3 BOff slots)
Total BOff slots: 12
I can do this all day with all the end-game ships (other than BoPs). They all have 12 BOff slots. The Mogai is no different. The Mogai Retrofit has 12 BOff slots and 9 consoles. The fleet version has 12 BOff slots and 10 consoles. It's no different from ANY other Tier V/fleet refit.
This boff layout is perfect for me since when I run attack pattern doffs on a 4 DHC ship with Cmdr and Lt Cmdr tac I end up with 1 excess tac ability I don't really need like an extra cannon skill when I already have 2. Also since I run damage control doffs on it too, I can keep epts3 up full time and not end up with a wasted ensign eng boff station like on other ships with 2 eng boffs.
I don't like wasting money on the contarry and this ship has less boffs as my defiant retro.Lt uni station needs more than that and the oddy in fact does have more 2 uni slots same goes for the bortas.
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Oooooh. So you want more Universal slots! Why didn't you say so...
Buuut no. It's fine as is.
"It's nothing like the armitage"
PLEASE QUIT THIS GAME. I'm serious. Quit the game, forums and never come back. Or at least if you do, learn how to read and properly do math.
Armitage T5
Tac 4
Tac 2
Tac 1
Eng 3
Sci 2
Mogai T5
Tac 4
Tac 2
Eng 3
Sci 1
Uni 2
So lets do some math, again for the third time in this topic. maybe you'll read this time.
Armitage Total Possible TAC Powers: 7. 4+2+1
Mogai Total Possible TAC Powers: 8. 4+2+2
So once again it's proven that you literally dont know what your talking about. Your complaining about a ship that already has what you now say you want, more uni for tac. and it has MORE tac potential than the armitage.
Oh so 8 powers isn't enough or you want a ltcmdr tac? alright well here you go.
Ha-Feh:
Tac 4
Tac 3
Eng 2
Eng 1
Sci 1
Total of 7 Tac powers and tac 4 tac 3.
Alright not enough.
Scimitar:
Tac 4
Tac 3
Eng 2
Sci 2
Uni 1
Total of 8 tac powers with a tac 4 and tac 3.
What you want the mogai to be isn't what the ship was EVER designed to be. Even before the changes it was Tac 4 Sci 3 instead of Eng 3. It NEVER had a lt.cmdr tac because it was never that type of ship.
Now i'm not sure why i even bothered with this since this will be the 4th time this has been explained to you and you just keep trolling us, or at least i hope your trolling and your not actually still not comprehending this with 4 people telling you the same thing but i guess it's possible.
No you quit this game I got to much invested there is difference between the Armitage and the Mogia as the Armitage is a Tac ship the Mogai.It may say escort but it can be used by all.
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Wow. Ok... allow me to say this:
EVERY SHIP IN THIS GAME CAN BE USED BY ANY CAPTAIN CLASS OF THAT FACTION. EVERY SHIP IN THIS GAME CAN BE USED BY ANY PLAYER AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN THE SAME FACTION AS THE SHIP.
So... every ship in this game can be used by anyone as long as they are not faction blocked. And the Armitage is exactly like the Mogai, minus a hangar slot and minus the 3rd tac BOff.
What you want is a ship with two LtCmdr slots, a science and a tactical. What you get is a DESTROYER. Allow me to say this one more time. THE MOGAI IS A DESTROYER. NOT AN ESCORT. The "escort" for the Romulans are the Ha'feh and Dhelan. The MOGAI is a DESTROYER.
Destroyers are designed to be tanky with lots of firepower. And you get both with the Mogai.
So please age... just stop...
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So you're looking for a Ha'feh? Dhelan? T'Varo? Those are all already very high TAC oriented ships. They're in the game already.
the mogai is unlikely to get a mirror, and even then it would probably be the engi or science switched to the other one.
In any case, it is fine as is.