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Why does the Varanus not have a hangar bay?
Why does the Negh'var not have a hangar bay?
Why does the Bortasqu not have a hangar bay?
Why is there no Fleet Guramba?
Why is there no Fleet Kar'fi?
Why do the KDF not have a 5 fore weapon ship?
Why do the KDF not have a 5 tac console escort?
Why do the KDF not have a 5 tac console and 5 fore weapon escort?
That the Vesta can launch runabouts and the Negh'Var can't launch BoP pets is so ridiculously facepalmish it takes stupidity to a whole new level...
But hey, the new Romy ships are bringing the $$$ so I suppose the business model is working as intended...
Why does the Negh'var not have a hangar bay?
Why does the Bortasqu not have a hangar bay?
Why is there no Fleet Guramba?
Why is there no Fleet Kar'fi?
Why do the KDF not have a 5 fore weapon ship?
Why do the KDF not have a 5 tac console escort?
Why do the KDF not have a 5 tac console and 5 fore weapon escort?
That the Vesta can launch runabouts and the Negh'Var can't launch BoP pets is so ridiculously facepalmish it takes stupidity to a whole new level...
But hey, the new Romy ships are bringing the $$$ so I suppose the business model is working as intended...
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I have nothing to add really. Agreed 100%.
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
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Simple, you ask questions that don't make any sense and you jump to the weirdest conclusion based on that.
Did the DSSV get a hangar bay? No, so why should the Varanus get one?
Did the Galaxy, the Star Cruiser or the Sovereign get a hangar bay? No so why should the Negh'Var get one?
Did the Oddy get a hangar bay? No, so why should the Borty get one?
Has the Negh'var in all its history ever launched a BoP? No, does it have a hangar bay large enough for that? No, so what's facepalmish about this aside from your question?
Slow down, think before you post.
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Didn't know we were going 100% by canon for everything in this game and not making any allowances at all for the sake of "balance"... Didn't know that...
The KDF have exactly 1 carrier that can launch BoPs while every single Fed carrier can launch Runabouts... Hmmm.... Riiiiiiiiiiiight...
The Feds did get an escort carrier to which the KDF got.... well.... Uhh... The KDF got to give the Feds their best consoles... Sooo... There's that... Thoughts on that??? The KDF should get a raptor that launches Qaw'duns, that'd be nice...
And you only referenced the first three questions, the others legitimately stand on their own... And to katanic, I don't really care for pets, but I'd like to be able to spam at atleast a comparable level...
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The Scimitar wasn't a carrier in Nemesis yet it has a hanger bay so /i agree maybe the Varnaus and Negh'var shouldn't have one but the borty I think should have at least a hanger bay as well as the oddy
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As a Klingon if you wanted a Escort with Fighters you could put your efforts into acquiring the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier. It's not as simple as dropping $25 bucks into the game but the option is there and that thing doesn't launch Frigates.
I currently fly a Carrier, the BoPs are better than any other pet in the game IMO, although Advanced/Elite Slavers come close.
Fighters come in 3s: Peregrines to To'duj. We win Peregrins look stupid and disruptors are better than phasers.
Shuttles come in 2s: Not sure what we got here that compares I don't own any Orion FDCs. Slavers are Fighter class with 360 beams, and are better than most shuttles in PVE.
Frigates come solo: Feds ain't got anything and this drives them crazy. Look how many threads are demanding the ability to deploy Defiants, Sabres and in some cases Connies from the Atrox.
Klingons have the best Hanger Craft in this game.
The Feds are still crying for their Fleet Atrox and Fleet Galaxy Dreadnought, it is safe to say that these ships and our Fleet Kar'fi and Fleet Garumba are coming.
Klingons are the ignored faction, After the Oddy/Bortasq Feds got the HEC, The Assault R, 3 Pack Multimission and 3 Pack Andorian Escort. You'd think that would satisfy them and they wouldn't care that the Romulans got a 3 pack. But they are screaming like their ships just got nerfed into shuttles. The Federation is no longer the favourite sons and we may very well be getting some ships soon. But the Romulans will be getting ships for the next two to three releases.
And as for the Feds getting our best consoles, we still have them. And in all fairness we got their best it just took two boxes to do.
I'm more concerned by the fact Romulan ships all get Battle Cloak and it's a 5s cooldown not 20s like ours. I'd prefer a 5 Tac Console Raptor with Battle Cloak than one with 5 Fore Weapons (but wouldn't say no to having that too
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Many of the things the OP stated are in the works.
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Except the fact that cryptic's track record does not give us enough confidence.
An honest expectation but based on old angst from a time when we KDF where openly ignored. We have recourse to be fearful of the same but keep in mind that the Devs ignored the feds to include us in the LoR expansion.
Would it not be more honorable to give them the benefit of continuing to give us attention rather than ignore what they recently have done and fall back into old fears?
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The Hanger full of Scorpion fighters begs to differ...
BoPs and shuttles are very different things...
Balance? I believe I already covered that when I referred to the Galaxy, the Sovereign and the Star Cruiser, which are its rough counterparts...BO-wise the Galaxy in particular.
And the Negh'var wipes the floor with the Galaxy. In particular the fleet versions where the Negh'var gets the ensign uni while the Galaxy is stuck with its fully-fixed BO layout. So what balance?
As for the other part....why is the Vo'quv so big?
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because it's the only way to get hangar bays big enough to actually launch BoPs.
So it's not an application of canon..it's an application of basic intelligence.
If the Scimitar were the Romulan flagship I might agree with you...but it isn't the flagship...that'll be the ship with the word flagship in the description.;)
So it's an entirely new class of ship on its own.
And it's basically an oversized Akira that wonders...where did my turnrate go?
After the largest content update the game (and KDF in particular) have received in 3 years, we're back to "Cryptic ignores/hates the KDF" again? Wow, only took 6 weeks.
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No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
I'm in no way disputing that fact - but with the recent update, 'abandoned' really smacks of major hyperbole.
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Cryptic don't ignore the feds, period.
They simply didn't had time to finish a revamped tutorial for feds with the LoR release in order to meet the deadline.
As per recent Massively interview Gecko "said that the team learned a lot of lessons on how to make a great tutorial while making the LoR expansion and is eager to see them implemented into Federation gameplay."
Mock my word, that will be available before ANY new ships or costumes will be released for the KDF! Stahl stated clearly on GoS interview that will be no KDF ships till late in the year.
Copy pasted material, missing or low quality voiceovers, bugs galore is an "attention" yes, what i expect from them is to threat us with respect and give us a damn equal footing in the game. And i don't think is honorable to lower our standards and expectations based on what they "throw" at us.
With all due respect, the bugs are game wide, not just contained within the Klingon content. As far as the ships goes, last thing i heard is that there will be a Romulan flagship and some story content to go with it. While I want more coherent content for the Romulan end game experience, I have always been one of those who was 100% in favour of the KDF being 'finished' across the board before any new faction was introduced, not just at the lower levels, and I feel that 90% of Romulan players will be happy enough with their latest Reman designed shiny to permit a shift in focus to the KDF for a little bit.
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
So far, this is one of the few replies I actually like. Why? Because it's reasoned and well thought out.
As far as the original poster, if you want to cry about "carrier imbalances", well hell, why not give the Fed your Cloaks and battle cloaks for almost all ships,. and even THAT up a bit. :cool::D
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Then there's the issue with BoPs. They're gradually being edged out in terms of competitiveness. In the past, they had their universal boff stations which were a treaured commodity to have. They also had their high turnrates. Now, almost every new ship that comes out has a universal boffstation of some sort, if not two universal boffstations. There are now many ships that can generally match a BoP when it comes to turning in most situations. The BoP class needs a buff to either their battlecloaks (specifically, the decloak damage and a damage resist buff) or their impulse modifiers.
Our battlecruisers are fine, we have an okay selection of them at Tier 5/5.5. Our carriers are still workable. I don't like the proliferation of cross-faction ships, especially in PvP, but as long as KDF can access them I won't be complaining too loudly.
There's no doubt that the Rommie ships are OP right now, but if you're not in the 1% of players who actually care about PVP, that's not nearly as important as the forced repetition of content.
I've given Cryptic a bit more slack lately since LOR.
We finally can start Lv1 with a KDF toon.
2 new BOPs, granted early tier stuff.
Klingon-centric storyline with the new missions and not Fed Cut & Paste missions like the notorious Dominion arcs.
More can be done, but attention has been paid to the early KDF game.
And one cannot escape this fact. A fact that none of the Romulan-centric players can ever truly claim no matter what kind of ships they get, how much new story arcs they get, and no matter how they have as much uniform options now than the KDF has had for its entire history...
At least the Klingon Empire is a truly separate faction, and a foil to the Federation & Starfleet :cool:
The Romulans will never be able to claim that, and the Feds still hate us to eternity.
Damn it feels good to be with the Klingon Empire.
Cryptic ignored the feds evidenced simply by the fact that they finished us, the so called unprofitable faction, for thier big LoR release instead the feds - the long stated cashcow of Cryptic. If thats not ignoring then what is?
Nobody seriuosly expects them to not milk said cow ever again so of course they are gonna work up something special to stroke thier collective financial ego. Surely this is the known cycle of things.
As to any new ships coming until later in the year for the KDF.. So?
We just recently got some new stuff in LoR and at least one KDF specific interview letting us know what we may expect in the future pertaining to our faction. Some good news in fact about many of the issues on the mind of the fanbase. Costume ideas, fleet ship and even some specific ship ideas, good news, etc.
All we have to do is not go back to acting like a bunch of childish fantaints and try to both enjoy our growth and continue pushing our desires without pissing on the boots of those whom have the only power to see our goals achieved.
Seriuosly, we see enough of that from the fedfans and have been as bad in the past.
If the Devs hated us so much we would not be here today to act up about how much they hate us.
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