I have finished today the Nukara Reputation but other than the Romulan and the Omega Reputation you don't get extra dlithium or a lot of marks doing it. The question is now is that intended or a bug.
Its true, you get nothing after the up-date to tier 5, got 3 characters now to tier 5.
Will save me lots of time with my ground only characters, don't need tier 4 & 5.
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This is going to turn into one of the biggest rants in awhile very soon as more people reach tier 5
They made the romulan mark bonus of 800 I believe and 35k dilithium becaused it was harder to get marks that Omega and you got almost no dilithium - unlike omega.
Even Omega gives 500 and 9k dilithium
Watch - this is going to be huge since nukara gives about the same dilithium rewards are Romulan marks - but it is 2x as hard to get them
It's the lump sum of marks and dilithium ore that encourages people to get a console or a set piece after grinding all the way to the end instead of grinding to get what they need and then stopping.
Oooook - Maybe I need to L2Rep or whatever, but to me the point of the rep was the nice shinies you get AT T5. So the only reason I'm doing it, is to get that console or set-piece, after grinding to T5, because that's what I ground to T5 for in the first place.
What else do people 'need', at lower tiers, that they would otherwise grind to and then stop before T5?
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It is fairly apparent that the Nukara rep system got messed up somewhere.
I always like Nukara, and enjoyed doing the missions there.
But since LoR launched and the Fleet Marks were removed from Tholian Incursion missions, I have absolutely no interest in going there anymore.
The only time i think I'd take a character to Nukara now, is when they hit level 50 and get the mission that they go there and talk to the NPC for the accolade.
Other than that, they totally made Nukara useless for me.
If they would put fleet marks back as mission rewards I would definitely go back to Nukara.
Holy goodness people. You get the active/passives, you get access to the store, and you get all the dil you
earned every time you 'collect rewards' on every project.
Now if you ground out the rep to T5 and that didn't unlock any additional stores/items well yea, be peeved, that's the point of the rep.
But being peeved about bonus marks/dil? It's just not necessary. I'd love extra rewards, sure, and I do think all 3 reps need to be on par. But not having extra bonus rewards is not that big of a deal.
And if you spent time grinding nukara marks, and EC on the commodities for rep projects, just to get a dil/mark bonus at the end... So you ground out marks, to get marks? And the dil? Well you got dil as a reward for rep project completion.
Maybe looking up the phrase 'opportunity cost' in an econ textbook will help with some perspective.
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SO, the reward system for Nukara is that, you grind your way through it, to get the privilege of opening a store where you get to grind more to buy the TRIBBLE thats inside.. Great reward.. simply effin great..
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Holy goodness people. You get the active/passives, you get access to the store, and you get all the dil you
earned every time you 'collect rewards' on every project.
Now if you ground out the rep to T5 and that didn't unlock any additional stores/items well yea, be peeved, that's the point of the rep.
But being peeved about bonus marks/dil? It's just not necessary. I'd love extra rewards, sure, and I do think all 3 reps need to be on par. But not having extra bonus rewards is not that big of a deal.
And if you spent time grinding nukara marks, and EC on the commodities for rep projects, just to get a dil/mark bonus at the end... So you ground out marks, to get marks? And the dil? Well you got dil as a reward for rep project completion.
Maybe looking up the phrase 'opportunity cost' in an econ textbook will help with some perspective.
Go back though ANY one of my posts - you will find that I am close to what people call a cryptic fan-boy - or at bare min I am defending them all the time.
This is a major oversight given the cost in EC to get to T5 and the difficulty compared to the other 2 rep systems.
I specifically call it an EPIC FAIL - because in defending cryptic almost all the time - I can see a rant/rage fest coming from a mile away - and this one is going to be on the larger size.
Now of course this is pretty harsh for me to say - compared to my usual fan boydom
blue you might want to change the thread title to "No Bonus Nukara marks/dilithium rewards on reaching Tier 5"
As it stands it's too vague - or might confuse with someone just not receiving marks for running a mission.
Thx
I'd like to avoid mucking around with the OP's title.
If the OP asks for a title change, maybe we can work something out.
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Either way, it does need to be addressed or there is no real reason to go past tier four. Also, Nukara is really not worth the hassle these days, so it'll end up being a barren wasteland, due to no point grinding more marks for a EV suit your only going to use there.
There is the Elite Widow fighters that can be obtained no other way, various sets, the Tier 5 ability and the very likely chance that it is merely a bug that the bonus is not being rewarded. However, don't expect much from the Tier 5 bonus. While the Romulan Tier 5 bonus gave 750 marks and 32,000 dilithium, the Omega gave 500 Marks and 9,000 dilithium if I remember correctly. The bonus is just to give one free set piece at the lowest possible value. Since the Nukara rep and Omega rep have ground set pieces at the same price and the Romulan rep has no ground set pieces, then the Nukara will give 500 Marks and 9,000 dilithium if it is ever fixed.
And Nukara is not that hard to level. Can get 220 Marks by just doing the Nukara Prime missions during bonus event and not including the hard missions. So running the Nukara Prime missions twice a day for 4 days will get enough Marks to level to Tier 5.
Only my space builds will goto tier5, my ground characters i stop at tier 3.
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There is the Elite Widow fighters that can be obtained no other way, various sets, the Tier 5 ability and the very likely chance that it is merely a bug that the bonus is not being rewarded. However, don't expect much from the Tier 5 bonus. While the Romulan Tier 5 bonus gave 750 marks and 32,000 dilithium, the Omega gave 500 Marks and 9,000 dilithium if I remember correctly. The bonus is just to give one free set piece at the lowest possible value. Since the Nukara rep and Omega rep have ground set pieces at the same price and the Romulan rep has no ground set pieces, then the Nukara will give 500 Marks and 9,000 dilithium if it is ever fixed.
And Nukara is not that hard to level. Can get 220 Marks by just doing the Nukara Prime missions during bonus event and not including the hard missions. So running the Nukara Prime missions twice a day for 4 days will get enough Marks to level to Tier 5.
Really? So what is the justification for adding the bonus to the other to?
Omega was lower because it was easy to get marks and dilithium
Romulan was much higher - because outside of bunny farming it was much harder to get marks and dilithium.
And here we have Nukara - what if you don't like running ground for hours around nukara? still as hard to get marks/dilithium as Romulan
so why no bonus like Romulan?? What is your answer for that?
Really? So what is the justification for adding the bonus to the other to?
Omega was lower because it was easy to get marks and dilithium
Romulan was much higher - because outside of bunny farming it was much harder to get marks and dilithium.
And here we have Nukara - what if you don't like running ground for hours around nukara? still as hard to get marks/dilithium as Romulan
so why no bonus like Romulan?? What is your answer for that?
It had absolutely nothing to do with how easy it was to get Marks. Besides players have different play styles so saying Omega Marks is easier to get is only true for some players. For others, they would rather get their teeth pulled than get Omega Marks.
Did you even read my post? As I said before in the post you quoted, the bonus was based on getting one piece of equipment from one of the sets. Romulan Rep has absolutely no ground sets so the devs had to go with the price of one piece of equipment of the space sets. If there was a Romulan ground set, then we would not get as much for the bonus. Also as I said before in my previous post, there is no bonus because the bonus is likely bugged. Unless the devs say that they decided on no bonus while the other reps have a bonus, then it is easier believe that it is bugged rather than the devs have decided against it. It is not a STO major patch unless it has some major problem with it.
I've seen people using that Tier V ability in ISE and it didn't even manage to put a small dent into a nanite sphere. Nice lightshow but completely useless. If you don't plan on using Tier V Nukara gear, you can safely stop at Tier IV.
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I have finished today the Nukara Reputation but other than the Romulan and the Omega Reputation you don't get extra dlithium or a lot of marks doing it. The question is now is that intended or a bug.
Will save me lots of time with my ground only characters, don't need tier 4 & 5.
Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone2 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. KDF Eng.
Warning: Not a native English-speaker, sorry if my English sucks.
At least they could have thrown in some EC you know...just for "thanks for grinding this mediocre reputation" or sth. like that.
They made the romulan mark bonus of 800 I believe and 35k dilithium becaused it was harder to get marks that Omega and you got almost no dilithium - unlike omega.
Even Omega gives 500 and 9k dilithium
Watch - this is going to be huge since nukara gives about the same dilithium rewards are Romulan marks - but it is 2x as hard to get them
EPIC FAIL if no Dilithium/ mark bonus
Watch the Nerd rage get into full swing soon.
Oooook - Maybe I need to L2Rep or whatever, but to me the point of the rep was the nice shinies you get AT T5. So the only reason I'm doing it, is to get that console or set-piece, after grinding to T5, because that's what I ground to T5 for in the first place.
What else do people 'need', at lower tiers, that they would otherwise grind to and then stop before T5?
::WARNING:: This game is not intended for use as a source of self-esteem.
I always like Nukara, and enjoyed doing the missions there.
But since LoR launched and the Fleet Marks were removed from Tholian Incursion missions, I have absolutely no interest in going there anymore.
The only time i think I'd take a character to Nukara now, is when they hit level 50 and get the mission that they go there and talk to the NPC for the accolade.
Other than that, they totally made Nukara useless for me.
If they would put fleet marks back as mission rewards I would definitely go back to Nukara.
That's all I'm asking for.
earned every time you 'collect rewards' on every project.
Now if you ground out the rep to T5 and that didn't unlock any additional stores/items well yea, be peeved, that's the point of the rep.
But being peeved about bonus marks/dil? It's just not necessary. I'd love extra rewards, sure, and I do think all 3 reps need to be on par. But not having extra bonus rewards is not that big of a deal.
And if you spent time grinding nukara marks, and EC on the commodities for rep projects, just to get a dil/mark bonus at the end... So you ground out marks, to get marks? And the dil? Well you got dil as a reward for rep project completion.
Maybe looking up the phrase 'opportunity cost' in an econ textbook will help with some perspective.
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Yes the unlocks are cool, but come on, you've got to get something at the end! Those marks give us our first piece of equipment at tier 5.
Go back though ANY one of my posts - you will find that I am close to what people call a cryptic fan-boy - or at bare min I am defending them all the time.
This is a major oversight given the cost in EC to get to T5 and the difficulty compared to the other 2 rep systems.
I specifically call it an EPIC FAIL - because in defending cryptic almost all the time - I can see a rant/rage fest coming from a mile away - and this one is going to be on the larger size.
Now of course this is pretty harsh for me to say - compared to my usual fan boydom
blue you might want to change the thread title to "No Bonus Nukara marks/dilithium rewards on reaching Tier 5"
As it stands it's too vague - or might confuse with someone just not receiving marks for running a mission.
Thx
I'd like to avoid mucking around with the OP's title.
If the OP asks for a title change, maybe we can work something out.
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Im happy to have the title changed if possible to something like what has been suggested
"No Bonus Nukara marks/dilithium rewards on reaching Tier 5"
Either way, it does need to be addressed or there is no real reason to go past tier four. Also, Nukara is really not worth the hassle these days, so it'll end up being a barren wasteland, due to no point grinding more marks for a EV suit your only going to use there.
Let me rephrase that:
The reputation System is for SOLO players.
As such, the missions should be SOLOABLE by SOLO players rather than having to group at least 4 other players to NOT SOLO the mission.
Didn't get any reward for Nukara Tier 5 unfortunately, feels like a rip off
The grind is hard as it is.
at the end you get like 500 bonus marks and 8500 dilithium
Next easiest - the Romulan rep - guves you not to much dilithium alomg the way - but 800 marks and 35,000 dilithium at tier 5
BUT the hardest marks to get + almost no dilithium along the way
gives ZERO - yes nadda - nothing - zip - bonus marks or Dilithium at Tier 5 - plus not to much interesting stuff.
So why run Nukara past T4???????????????
(title should say 5 and not % - shift key error - mods please adjust - thx)
And Nukara is not that hard to level. Can get 220 Marks by just doing the Nukara Prime missions during bonus event and not including the hard missions. So running the Nukara Prime missions twice a day for 4 days will get enough Marks to level to Tier 5.
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Really? So what is the justification for adding the bonus to the other to?
Omega was lower because it was easy to get marks and dilithium
Romulan was much higher - because outside of bunny farming it was much harder to get marks and dilithium.
And here we have Nukara - what if you don't like running ground for hours around nukara? still as hard to get marks/dilithium as Romulan
so why no bonus like Romulan?? What is your answer for that?
It had absolutely nothing to do with how easy it was to get Marks. Besides players have different play styles so saying Omega Marks is easier to get is only true for some players. For others, they would rather get their teeth pulled than get Omega Marks.
Did you even read my post? As I said before in the post you quoted, the bonus was based on getting one piece of equipment from one of the sets. Romulan Rep has absolutely no ground sets so the devs had to go with the price of one piece of equipment of the space sets. If there was a Romulan ground set, then we would not get as much for the bonus. Also as I said before in my previous post, there is no bonus because the bonus is likely bugged. Unless the devs say that they decided on no bonus while the other reps have a bonus, then it is easier believe that it is bugged rather than the devs have decided against it. It is not a STO major patch unless it has some major problem with it.
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