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Request for Beam Turrets
aveimperator
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Very simple thing to add. Same stats as current turrets, only make them beam weapons, please, to be affected by beam skills (BO and FAW). This enables us to equip some aft weapons of the same type to supplement Dual Beam Banks, much like current turrets supplement Dual Heavy Cannons.
Currently, DBBs are a very awkward weapon, best equipped singularly for the Beam Overload spike alongside the standard DHC/turret setup. This is because of weapon synergies. DHC/turrets go well together because they're both cannons and the turrets supplement the forward DHC arc. Beam Arrays go well together because they broadside. The problem with DBBs is that nothing goes with them. Ideally, you want ALL your weapons firing on your target to maximize your damage output, hence the DHC/turrets and Beam Array broadsides. However, nothing goes well with DBBs. If you put DBBs up front, you have a 90 degree firing arc that doesn't overlap with aft beam arrays, so only your front weapons are firing. You would equip turrets, but those are cannons and don't benefit from the same abilities, thus reducing your effectiveness.
This is a very simple thing and, frankly, not really unreasonable. Just make a turret variant that fires beams instead of pulses. Same damage, same power drain, just different type. Please implement this.
Currently, DBBs are a very awkward weapon, best equipped singularly for the Beam Overload spike alongside the standard DHC/turret setup. This is because of weapon synergies. DHC/turrets go well together because they're both cannons and the turrets supplement the forward DHC arc. Beam Arrays go well together because they broadside. The problem with DBBs is that nothing goes with them. Ideally, you want ALL your weapons firing on your target to maximize your damage output, hence the DHC/turrets and Beam Array broadsides. However, nothing goes well with DBBs. If you put DBBs up front, you have a 90 degree firing arc that doesn't overlap with aft beam arrays, so only your front weapons are firing. You would equip turrets, but those are cannons and don't benefit from the same abilities, thus reducing your effectiveness.
This is a very simple thing and, frankly, not really unreasonable. Just make a turret variant that fires beams instead of pulses. Same damage, same power drain, just different type. Please implement this.
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I like the cut of your jib. A beam turret would be excellent.
Also, this has been a major beef of mine with DBBs. I love them but they aren't great benefit on a cruiser. It is majorly why I am in support of five front five back for all cruisers Dreadnought and up.
I would love to be able to have some kind of synergy with my DBBs and my rear weapons, which are usually turrets. It makes perfect sense at first glance.
However, That would potentially really TRIBBLE up my Beam Overload. I don't want my turret to fire it, completely wasting it on a low damage weapon.
I would only support this if there was a better way to link a BO shot to a specific weapon, like say you click BO, then click the weapon you want it to fire from.
Yes I have. All the time in fact. I was actually just running a test to see the numbers with a web mine launcher. With 4 DBBs and 3 turrets, I regularly pull somewhere between 6.5 and 7k DPS in ISE in my Excelsior.
I'm wondering if I should try out romulan plasma DBBs with the embassy consoles.
But back on topic, I would much rather see a beam rapid fire before beam turrets now that I think about it. I really don't want turrets TRIBBLE up my BO. Try running a beam boat with on DBB and use BO. You will know what I am talking about
No, we're not asking for a 360-degree DBB. We're asking for a beam-version of turrets. Same damage, same power drain as turrets just in beam form. Much like the 360-degree beam arrays currently used on shuttlecraft.
Just give a better way to link your BO to a specific beam, then I'd be all for beam turrets. Same numbers and everything as the current turret (HA!), but with beams instead is fair I think.
Honestly, it'd be pretty awesome looking to watch a FAW with DBBs, BAs, and Beam turrets all firing forward at once.
Might give DHC a run for their money then.
3 beam turrets, with 1dbb or torp of choice front
3 or more beam turrets in back
bfaw 6 or more beams turrets firing 360 all at once
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This setup is on the Kamarag and this ship has such an inertia that you can have it slide. Even more when you use Aux to dampeners. Sometimes it looks like all beams fire at a target that I approach when I suddenly make a turn. It can of course be the case that first my fore weapons are firing and directly the aft beams take over.
It should be experimented with a static target.
As for the BO problem: It would be great to have a button that toggles forward and aft weapon loadouts so you could mute your aft weapons for a moment when employing a BO or similiar ability. The weapon loadout in STO actually doesn't make a whole lot of sense in regards to Star Trek anyway though I won't fire up that discussion. We have to deal with what the game offers.
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Who is asking for more DPS? All this ranting and screaming all the time. People were just suggesting beam turrets - they'd be the exact same as cannon turrets but look beamy so you don't have to mix beams and cannons on your ship. It's first and foremost a cosmetic request. FAW wouldn't overpower them as well since their base damage is low enough and a cruiser with fore and aft beams already fires 360 degree in FAW mode.
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on my JH dread i run 3 dbb front 1 torp, aft turrets. its a good combo. the extra 45 deg arc outweighs the slightly less dps of the dbbs over dhcs.
on my JH HEC i use DHCs/turrets as the turn rate outweighs the extra arc.
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I would think that even escorts would appreciate the flexibility that having a beam turret would bring. They could utilize the various subsystem targeting abilities, for instance, without sacrificing much in the way of forward-arc firepower.
While I fully support this idea, beam turrets are LONG overdue, Cryptic has no idea what "synergy" means. Just take a look at the Romulan faction lol. :rolleyes: