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  • voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Anyone that's seen me in-game enough has probably seen my Bob Barker rip-off

    "Please help control the Klingon population, have your klingon spayed or neutered today"

    well considering EVERY Romulan has a Toven since we can't rename him (which personally that and the ability to lessen or turn off his vo) I think I'll add onto that.

    "Please help control the Klingon Population, have you're Klingon spayed or neutered today. And remember folks Toven overbreeding is a serious problem we all face, so please remember to have your Toven neutered or renamed today."

    Well since I can't rename him....."Subcommander, grabs the snip snips and have Toven report to my ready room at once!" :D "Sir can't we just have the Doctor remove his tongue?" "A two for one special eh subcommander, good thinking you get a promotion"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    What kind of build where beam fire at will is useless ?
    And High yield even more so?

    A "Ghost" configuration T'varo retrofit
    That means SPREAD torps not high yields
    A bio neural and a plasma weapon as a finisher

    I do mount beams but if i use them its because the mission is a bust and im trying to cover for someone elses role

    High yield allows you to hit ONE target which almost always has a massive plasma resist
    most "high end" missions require other weapons than plasma torps


    As to act like a Romulan ???
    D'Stal says I Can't shoot him
    Live long and Prosper
  • forewmforewm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm working on an entire borg crew so I don't have any use for the Romulan, but he is pretty op to get off the start. They should nerf him.

    I've been executing all my bound white duty officers and at times I kinda wish I could add Tovan to the list.
  • lancemeszaroslancemeszaros Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    One of the most appealing things about Star Trek Online is you choose absolutely everything about your ship, captain and crew. You aren't stuck with whatever boffs they shove onto you, or whatever ships they shove onto you. Tovan breaks that by shoving someone onto you that you can't dismiss, takes up a boff spot, and shoves himself into dialogue when you don't want him there. I don't disagree with him as a character, just his role in the story. It would have been much better if he had been a mission contact NPC. Instead, the devs decide to shove themselves into your captain's story, which indicates a lack of realizing what the game's strong parts are.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    oh and if MY sister was missing Id take a shuttle and go find her and stuff the Republic

    It is worth noting what Tovan CAN'T do
    he can't fly the ship (I do that)
    He can't take command of an away team (I do that)
    He can't even fight worth a damn

    he is an ultra common boff and of no value at all
    Live long and Prosper
  • colonelchenchuancolonelchenchuan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I vented enough about him in Beta. And seems now in release he has engendered the reactions.

    As I said then. He isnt my friend. He is not my First Officer. I dont care about his story.

    He is taking up a slot. Thats the main reason at this point.

    But lets all be honest. The VO is terrible. I mean its laughable.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • colonelchenchuancolonelchenchuan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    My guess is to why Roms are forced to keep him is that they want to continue to add VO to new content, and Tovan allows them to do that for Romulans (Hell, in the Fed tutorial revamp - they may decide to make Feds keep a Boff for similar reasons - and may decide to impose something like that for the KDF down the road. (Who knows):eek::D;)

    No NO MORE. His VO is horrible. He sounds more like a Van Nuys frat boy on too many red bulls and uses way to much 20th century earth slang. I mean the writing isnt that good to begin with but the actors delivery is comic.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm split on Tovan.

    Abilities-wise, he's probably one of the best BOffs in the game, I think there there's only about two Tactical abilities he doesn't have that someone might want (Tac Team and... I think it's either Cannon: Volley or Cannon: Rapid, whichever is the one that he doesn't have.)

    Character-wise, I'd rather send him to the Forge on Vulcan and forget he ever existed. Half the time, he says something and I just end up going "Nah, ya think?" rather sarcastically and the other half muttering "Shut UP, Tovan." I can handle getting 'preset' bridge officers like Hivan, Satra, Varil and D'Vex, but I still like being able to decide their motives and personalities myself - I end up with all of Tovan's characteristics forced on my from the beginning.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Redacted...
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    Founder, member and former leader to Pride Of The Federation Fleet.
    What I feel after I hear about every decision made since Andre "Mobile Games Generalisimo" Emerson arrived...
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  • pweistheworstpweistheworst Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Devs, you've admitted that you're working on a patch that will FINALLY give players the option to discharge Tovan if we want to ... hurry up and release that patch, PLEASE.

    The "Tovan lovers" are tired of the many threads complaining about Tovan, and the "Tovan haters" aren't going to stop complaining until we are given the option we should have had all along.

    Everyone can go back to playing the game how we want to - with or without Tovan - as soon as players have the option to discharge Tovan if they want to.
    In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."

    Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
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