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Cutting the Cord - An act of defiance or a display of brutality?

rifter1969rifter1969 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
OK... been meaning to post this for a week, but kept on forgetting about it... :o:P


So, Cloaked Intentions, final mission Cutting the Cord, after going through the maze, and finally getting to Hakeev in the courtyard.

There is a nice new dialogue between him and Sela. which I like... :D

Sela basically tells him that he failed and that he should never had brought the iconians into this, and beams away.

So then you are left to fight Hakeev, and being a RR officer, the event plays out diferently than I remeber from Fed point of view.

Ok, I know this is a little long winded... sorry...

But when you and Obisek finally defeat Hakeev... I remember the first time through this with a Fed character he just dies.

Haven't played it as a KDF character, but with my Fed aligned Rom...

He makes some kind of small speech and then you blast him right there on the spot :eek:

WHAT?!?!?!

And Obisek is just standing there watching you.

I was like , WOW! What just happened?

Is it me, or was that a little cold blooded?
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You are playing a Romulan, not a Fed. A fed would have probably let him live to take him into custody, but it's not the Romulan way. And honestly, it feel good to FINALLY take our revenge.
    Fed aligned doesn't mean you are a fed. You are Romulan, and you have fed as allied, they help you, and you help them. Sometimes.
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    You are playing a Romulan, not a Fed. A fed would have probably let him live to take him into custody, but it's not the Romulan way. And honestly, it feel good to FINALLY take our revenge.
    Fed aligned doesn't mean you are a fed. You are Romulan, and you have fed as allied, they help you, and you help them. Sometimes.
    ^ This

    And I might add that for pure Fed and KDF characters now, replaying Cutting the Cord, Obisek does the exact same thing your Romulan did ;) It's a fairly new addition, yeah
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  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Cold blooded? What are you talking about? He got off easy. He deserved far, far worse.
  • latiasracerlatiasracer Member Posts: 680 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    talien wrote: »
    Cold blooded? What are you talking about? He got off easy. He deserved far, far worse.

    A-men to that.


    Personally, i thought it was cool gunning him down on the spot. He deserved it.


    That's what i like about the Romulans, you're not overally passive like Feds or OTT aggressive like a KDF
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  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yeah he got off lightly! We all now have to pay the price for his meglomaniac ways, when the iconians get here i'll be ready with my one-liner ( as i destroy my first ship ) "say hi to hakeev for me!" boom goes their ship!
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    You are playing a Romulan, not a Fed. A fed would have probably let him live to take him into custody, but it's not the Romulan way. And honestly, it feel good to FINALLY take our revenge.
    Fed aligned doesn't mean you are a fed. You are Romulan, and you have fed as allied, they help you, and you help them. Sometimes.
    In fact, it's the last thing D'Tan says to you when you choose your ally - "...but never forget - you are Romulan."
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  • sparhawksparhawk Member Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    You are playing a Romulan, not a Fed. A fed would have probably let him live to take him into custody, but it's not the Romulan way. And honestly, it feel good to FINALLY take our revenge.
    Fed aligned doesn't mean you are a fed. You are Romulan, and you have fed as allied, they help you, and you help them. Sometimes.

    Ditto, I liked what they did.
  • rifter1969rifter1969 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    OK, the results I kind of suspected.... :D

    I had mixed feeling at the moment, but it wore of fast.


    Mind you all... I'm not complaining about this. Just wanted to get other reactions.


    Enjoy!
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I really enjoyed this little change. Part of me does still like the old ending where he just dies without the typical villain monologue, but I like what they did with this new ending.

    Although for me the impact was lost due to a tiny glitch the first time around. My Rom is a melee tac, so I was busting up Hakeev's face with a sword. When the cutscene came, my sword didn't disappear so it looked like I shot him with my sword. On one hand it was funny since dude, I shot Hakeev with a sword. On the other, because it was funny the impact of finally killing the SOB was lost. Oh well, it is what it is lol. :P
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well, it's no biggie, you can shoot Janek too, and she didn't deserve it half as much as Hakeev (which doesn't mean that she didn't deserve it at all). After all Hakeev did, he would have deserved that you make a detour to get a Varon-T disruptor. Especially after Mind Games and Devil's Choice this ending is simply necessary.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Id have liked to feed him to the Elachi
    Or brain wash him into becoming a farmer raising epoahs
    Or maybe have blown him out an airlock
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  • rifter1969rifter1969 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Or brain wash him into becoming a farmer raising epoahs

    :eek: ROFL!!!!! :D
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    After what he had done to my homeworld, to my colony, to my family and friends, to my species, I'm with the folks that said he got out easy.
    Although on second thought, that was exactly the safest way to do it, apprehendng him or anything that lets him live a moment more brings the risk that he might escape/be saved and get to roam around the galaxy again. No sir, his time is up, right here, right now. :cool:
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    rifter1969 wrote: »
    But when you and Obisek finally defeat Hakeev... I remember the first time through this with a Fed character he just dies.

    Haven't played it as a KDF character, but [...]
    It's different now (select for spoiler): he makes his little speech and then Obisek shoots him (its a Reman storyline, and the Fed/KDF storyline is that you're just helping Obisek).
  • nobscunobscu Member Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    +12 Renegade
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    In fact, it's the last thing D'Tan says to you when you choose your ally - "...but never forget - you are Romulan."

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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I don't think he considers Hakeev to be Rihannsu any more... :)
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  • sudoku7sudoku7 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The proper term is 'green blooded'.
  • arkhamanarkhaman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    This is how it went down for me.

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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    rifter1969 wrote: »
    OK... been meaning to post this for a week, but kept on forgetting about it... :o:P


    So, Cloaked Intentions, final mission Cutting the Cord, after going through the maze, and finally getting to Hakeev in the courtyard.

    There is a nice new dialogue between him and Sela. which I like... :D

    Sela basically tells him that he failed and that he should never had brought the iconians into this, and beams away.

    So then you are left to fight Hakeev, and being a RR officer, the event plays out diferently than I remeber from Fed point of view.

    Ok, I know this is a little long winded... sorry...

    But when you and Obisek finally defeat Hakeev... I remember the first time through this with a Fed character he just dies.

    Haven't played it as a KDF character, but with my Fed aligned Rom...

    He makes some kind of small speech and then you blast him right there on the spot :eek:

    WHAT?!?!?!

    And Obisek is just standing there watching you.

    I was like , WOW! What just happened?

    Is it me, or was that a little cold blooded?

    as haveek's plans fall away from him without any furious diatripe, he and his plans fall into obscurity. or something close this as i recall from before LoR.

    but anything with hakeeve in it, i cant help but smile, its so fun having him in a fight and then typically watch him run away. you can finally take hakeev down. i enjoyed hakeev's role so much i named my ship after him.
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    rifter1969 wrote: »
    ...and then you blast him right there on the spot...


    Is it me, or was that a little cold blooded?

    Personally, I would have hung him from the gates of New Romulus after running my sword though him. Or, have him half hanged, drawn, and quartered.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    rifter1969 wrote: »

    Is it me, or was that a little cold blooded?

    it may be cold blooded from a human standpoint, today or in the 25th century but you are not playing a human.

    not to mention the man is a monster. he is basically responsible for everything in some way or another. the destruction of romulus, the destruction of your new colony world, the hunting down of the remans. he is about as evil as they come. if he did not deserve it then i dont know who does.
  • aexraelaexrael Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    rifter1969 wrote: »
    Is it me, or was that a little cold blooded?

    Romulan Intro Movie

    "...You will do as you must..."

    "...our legacy cannot be lost to villains..."

    "...bury the past..."

    "...we must break the strong who would destroy us..."

    "...we must fight against any and all.."

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    ROMULAN!
  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    If I remember correctly my toon even tells him that what he gets is better than what he deserves. I agreed!


    lan451 wrote: »
    I really enjoyed this little change. Part of me does still like the old ending where he just dies without the typical villain monologue, but I like what they did with this new ending.

    Although for me the impact was lost due to a tiny glitch the first time around. My Rom is a melee tac, so I was busting up Hakeev's face with a sword. When the cutscene came, my sword didn't disappear so it looked like I shot him with my sword. On one hand it was funny since dude, I shot Hakeev with a sword. On the other, because it was funny the impact of finally killing the SOB was lost. Oh well, it is what it is lol. :P

    It's the 25th century. Swords are now swiss army knives (do it all) :D


    nobscu wrote: »
    +12 Renegade

    LOL
  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So the RR characters actually get to shoot Hakeev? Excellent, Now all this game needs is to allow me to punch Slamek in the face, and its journey to awesomeness will be complete.

    As for it being cold-blooded, you bet it is, and Hakeev deserves every minute of it.
  • imthe13thdoctorimthe13thdoctor Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    rifter1969 wrote: »
    OK... been meaning to post this for a week, but kept on forgetting about it... :o:P


    So, Cloaked Intentions, final mission Cutting the Cord, after going through the maze, and finally getting to Hakeev in the courtyard.

    There is a nice new dialogue between him and Sela. which I like... :D

    Sela basically tells him that he failed and that he should never had brought the iconians into this, and beams away.

    So then you are left to fight Hakeev, and being a RR officer, the event plays out diferently than I remeber from Fed point of view.

    Ok, I know this is a little long winded... sorry...

    But when you and Obisek finally defeat Hakeev... I remember the first time through this with a Fed character he just dies.

    Haven't played it as a KDF character, but with my Fed aligned Rom...

    He makes some kind of small speech and then you blast him right there on the spot :eek:

    WHAT?!?!?!

    And Obisek is just standing there watching you.

    I was like , WOW! What just happened?

    Is it me, or was that a little cold blooded?

    Think about it like you might have if you had actually been your character.

    As the story went on you found out that the wholesale destruction of Romulus / Remus, the deaths of billions of your people (quite possibly family and friends), the destruction of your way of life, the attacks on the survivor's colonies, the capture of, experimentation on and conversion of survivors by the Elachi where all planned and executed by Hakeev.

    Sure some of it lies with Taris and some with Sela but most of what happened lies completely at Hakeev's feet.

    Personally, he'd have died slower than if he was in the belly of the all might sarlaac.
  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Got to love that change...its precisely why I've played that mission so many times, carrying every weapon I can get into the cutscene..of course the standard disruptor-pistol-to-the-head has its charms... it really is a pity the game didn't let you dropkick him so hard he impales himself on the arch...just as you crew unleashes hell on it (or for engies...an phaser beam from orbit)
  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    When I first played the new "Cutting of the Cord" in closed beta, I didn't really have any expectations. I guess I assumed it would have the standard Hakeev death scene. When the climax in the cut scene happened, I was in a bit of shock. It was totally unexpected. But ti was exactly what I wanted to do to Hakeev as a bit of reflection.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    When I first played the new "Cutting of the Cord" in closed beta, I didn't really have any expectations. I guess I assumed it would have the standard Hakeev death scene. When the climax in the cut scene happened, I was in a bit of shock. It was totally unexpected. But ti was exactly what I wanted to do to Hakeev as a bit of reflection.
    Yes, it was extraordinarily cathartic at that point to interrupt Hakeev's little monologue with a plasma pistol blast to the face. I rather enjoyed it. (I was still a bit peeved over the Mind Games thing, I guess.)
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