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saverick459saverick459 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in The Academy
I've noticed everything worth getting on the Exchange is over 1 Million Credits. How am I suppose to go about making and saving that kind of money? Is there something I'm missing?
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Play the game, don't waste EC, be happy with loot drop untill VA.

    From that point on, find and sell Contraband and Rare/very Rare DuOffs.

    Minimum of 10,000,000 pr week.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Sell excess items.

    Do DOff missions that reward EC

    Either use Real World money or Refined Dilithium to purchase Zen, use that Zen in the C-Store to buy Lock Box Keys and sell them on the Exchange for a million or so EC apiece.

    Though... illuminate me, here, how do you define the term 'everything worth getting'?
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,476 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I find quite a few things "worth getting" for far less than a million EC; even the cool ships tend to go for prices in the hundreds of thousands, which is easy even for someone who plays as casually as I do.

    I suppose it all depends on your definition of "worth getting".
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  • rbatalla1977rbatalla1977 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    One easy way, if you are a gold member, otherwise I would spend the money, get a master key from the store. They sell for more than 1 million. Also some things from the Lobi store can get sold in the Exchange for a few grand.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Another way to make EC is go to the deeps space encounters farm then enemy ships for loot take the loot and sell it.

    Best way is common items just recycle them green and better put those on the exchange you make a good profit weekly doing that.
  • cdiederichscdiederichs Member Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Invest in some purple efficient resolve Doffs and powered artifacts. Start producing some blue/purple MkXII consoles. Then profit!!!
  • redsnake721redsnake721 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Also Kerrat has XII loot drops, Shields and Eng and Deflectors sell for a lot to the vendors. But as you start to get over 100 mil you can snowball that into 100's of millions by buying and selling keys and lockbox items on the exchange.
  • johnny1051johnny1051 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Breed Tribbles for fun and profit! There's a guide over at the wiki, tells what to feed them to produce rare offsprings that can then be sold on the exchange. You've had to have picked up a tribble and some foodstuffs by now.
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  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    One important tip is - unless you desperately want it, don't go buying up gear that's under Mk X.

    Most of it is vastly overpriced, and targeted towards people who have already been playing for a while and can afford to throw a million EC at a sniper rifle they're going to junk in a week.
  • georgedpgeorgedp Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    dont try to buy very expensive things at the start, wait to see what the story line missions will give you, start reading guides and sticky posts on the forum and make a plan what ship you want to build and what do you want to put on it. Till then you'll probably have enough credits to start building it...except you are aiming too high...
    And dont loose your patience, in a couple months you will earn money without even try so hard...
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Before Level 45
    Buy and equip white gear. Don't buy anything above 50,000 per item. Everything else you collect that isn't useful to you, put it up on the Exchange. Some items will be insanely priced, such as an uncommon tactical console for 100,000. Don't go that high - sell at around 50,000 at the most. You will gain about one million ECs by level 45.

    Level 45 - 49
    Start collecting your gear. Invest in consoles you will be using for months - but don't overspend, leave at minimum 700,000 in your EC bank.

    Level 50
    Learn to do the following:
    • NADORC Doffing (join the DOFFJOBS channel)
    • Tour the Universe
    • Manipulating the Exchange (buying low priced items, selling when they're high, for example)
    • Gorn Minefield and Starbase 24
    • Table Dancing at Drozana
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  • merak43merak43 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    One easy way, if you are a gold member, otherwise I would spend the money, get a master key from the store. They sell for more than 1 million. Also some things from the Lobi store can get sold in the Exchange for a few grand.
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    i am a gold member but i have this week gone back to the game after about 3 years of absence.
    I figured i would play the game "beetween games" so i let the subscription start again.

    however as it was just after it went free to play i quit it have been ALOT of change in the game when i played it was free ship upgrades after every 10 levels and now i need to purchase them after level 10. :)

    I am however at a loss to figure out a way to get dilitium (sidequest and purchase for real time money i know from the wiki ) and EC and all that i need to get the next ship (romulan lv 21) i figure i type in this thread and not make a new one as they are similar :) if thread starter or a mod want me to i will start a new thread instead


    and what do you mean about the easy way? (having not played for a while i dont know what you mean :D )
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    A good way to rack up some initial capital is to simply play through as many missions as you can and vendor all the loot, this should net you close to a million in a week or so, particularly if you find lots of shields, engines and deflectors.

    Once you have enough you can start browsing the exchange for bargains, and either vendor trashing at low value (you will get half the item's value), or re-selling for the higher value stuff. Just last night I made 3 million be reselling a single disruptor console after a few minutes of browsing. If you devote longer time to it you can make a lot of profit.
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    a foundry mission known as seid is good for ec farming the loot it drops is great but yet to get to my target of about 65mill only have 4
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  • psupiratepsupirate Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm a clueless newbie in the same boat, but one thing I've learned is to always try and sell your loot on the exchange before vendoring it. I got like 900,000 EC from selling a blue MKII kit that I couldn't use. I have no idea why it sold for so much.

    Also, a few times I've searched my crew for contraband (duty officer mission) and those sell for quite a bit as well.
  • shane4291shane4291 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Sell stuff you do not need. I was stupid and recycling every thing I did not use. Then I wised up and started to check prices on the Exchange, not sitting at 400k or so, and that is in the period of two days.
  • shane4291shane4291 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    merak43 wrote: »
    i am a gold member but i have this week gone back to the game after about 3 years of absence.
    I figured i would play the game "beetween games" so i let the subscription start again.

    however as it was just after it went free to play i quit it have been ALOT of change in the game when i played it was free ship upgrades after every 10 levels and now i need to purchase them after level 10. :)

    I am however at a loss to figure out a way to get dilitium (sidequest and purchase for real time money i know from the wiki ) and EC and all that i need to get the next ship (romulan lv 21) i figure i type in this thread and not make a new one as they are similar :) if thread starter or a mod want me to i will start a new thread instead


    and what do you mean about the easy way? (having not played for a while i dont know what you mean :D )

    Not sure what you are talking about, I got a free ship at level 10, 20, and 30. I've only got about 60hrs of play time in so I am rather new to the game.
  • otisnobleotisnoble Member Posts: 1,290 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've noticed everything worth getting on the Exchange is over 1 Million Credits. How am I suppose to go about making and saving that kind of money? Is there something I'm missing?

    You are right, people get greedy and price things way out of proportion to their worth in hopes that someone will be desperate enough to pay for it. How many of these things were returned to them only to be lost because the mailbox didn't work? I try to price things at face value and people buy them.

    Pick up everything you can including the seemingly useless items like lockboxes, food items, etc... and either post them on the exchange for a good price or sell those things that you can to a vendor (for half price). Also, sell the scanned items on the exchange for 100EC per item (except for Blue Quality) and Contriban will go almost will go almost as quick as you post them if you don't get too greedy and price them too high. The best thing is go on the exchange and look up what you are trying to sell and find out what the average price is then sell for less.
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  • aspheasphe Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've noticed everything worth getting on the Exchange is over 1 Million Credits. How am I suppose to go about making and saving that kind of money? Is there something I'm missing?

    Play the game and at the very least, check whatever loot you get on the exchange. If the price on the exchange is around 50% of the face value, just recycle (or better yet, sell it to NPC vendors).
    red01999 wrote: »
    One important tip is - unless you desperately want it, don't go buying up gear that's under Mk X.

    Most of it is vastly overpriced, and targeted towards people who have already been playing for a while and can afford to throw a million EC at a sniper rifle they're going to junk in a week.

    Like the other trading suggestions... another captains' treasure is someone else's trash. Some thing is overpriced when no one buys it. If you have the money, why not make your life easier... and give others a chance to take that money.
    otisnoble wrote: »
    You are right, people get greedy and price things way out of proportion to their worth in hopes that someone will be desperate enough to pay for it. How many of these things were returned to them only to be lost because the mailbox didn't work? I try to price things at face value and people buy them.

    Pick up everything you can including the seemingly useless items like lockboxes, food items, etc... and either post them on the exchange for a good price or sell those things that you can to a vendor (for half price). Also, sell the scanned items on the exchange for 100EC per item (except for Blue Quality) and Contriban will go almost will go almost as quick as you post them if you don't get too greedy and price them too high. The best thing is go on the exchange and look up what you are trying to sell and find out what the average price is then sell for less.

    Don't worry, they didn't lose your stuff. Exchange expired stuff still goes back to the player. Bear in mind, that there is an item limit on stuff you can list on the exchange.
  • psychoplattpsychoplatt Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Just ignore all tips u get for Exchange.
    selling datasamples for 100ec? NO
    Sell items that posted for 100k for 50K? NO
    Guess half the People that gave tips where very naive, the rest is unscupolous like me.

    Invest in EX, Take 3-5 Items (depends on your EX-Time) and get a Monopol on them. If you find an Item that sells less than 50% on Value on ex, buy it. If there only 10 Items of them in ex, Buy them all, regardless of Price, put one in again for 10 times the Price the highest you bought, wait and if u sold put onother one in. If another Player sells for 9 times do 8,9999 times the price and post another one. It is very easy to make 10m ec on ex a day with investing 10 minutes 4 times a day.
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Just ignore all tips u get for Exchange.
    selling datasamples for 100ec? NO
    Sell items that posted for 100k for 50K? NO
    Guess half the People that gave tips where very naive, the rest is unscupolous like me.

    Invest in EX, Take 3-5 Items (depends on your EX-Time) and get a Monopol on them. If you find an Item that sells less than 50% on Value on ex, buy it. If there only 10 Items of them in ex, Buy them all, regardless of Price, put one in again for 10 times the Price the highest you bought, wait and if u sold put onother one in. If another Player sells for 9 times do 8,9999 times the price and post another one. It is very easy to make 10m ec on ex a day with investing 10 minutes 4 times a day.

    I've tried this approach, but it's pretty slow going. Making ECs is easier once you get past level 45. Loot like deflectors, shields, and engines you can sell back and get 50% of the listed price for them at about 50K each. If you've completed the colonial chains, you can try getting crits on the colonial support, grind the bound purple doffs and sell the blues you get. You can build MK XII consoles off powered alien artifacts, and if you crit and get a good tac console, you can sell it for 30mil. Right now the warp core and singularity building doff assignments are good EC earners, wont last long though. Yes, you can troll the market all day to find people under pricing stuff, but waiting there all day makes the game boring.
  • jdskjflkjdfklsjfjdskjflkjdfklsjf Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've noticed everything worth getting on the Exchange is over 1 Million Credits. How am I suppose to go about making and saving that kind of money? Is there something I'm missing?

    The ago old question of all mmorpg's

    I find contraband to be the best for economical stability.It can be exchanged for EC(50K or so) or DIL..Since DIL can be exchanged for ZEN and ZEN for keys (and other ZEN purchases) that can be sold for EC equal to the avg price of ZEN to DIL EXC.

    The KDF doffing is the best way of getting contraband.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2013
    The ago old question of all mmorpg's

    I find contraband to be the best for economical stability.It can be exchanged for EC(50K or so) or DIL..Since DIL can be exchanged for ZEN and ZEN for keys (and other ZEN purchases) that can be sold for EC equal to the avg price of ZEN to DIL EXC.

    Contraband is indeed good, BUT there is an opportunity cost involved. (Dil vs ECs)
  • sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    psupirate wrote: »
    I'm a clueless newbie in the same boat, but one thing I've learned is to always try and sell your loot on the exchange before vendoring it. I got like 900,000 EC from selling a blue MKII kit that I couldn't use. I have no idea why it sold for so much.

    Also, a few times I've searched my crew for contraband (duty officer mission) and those sell for quite a bit as well.

    The contraband can be obtained from DOff missions. When you have 5 of them, they can be turned in to a Security Officer (center of ESD) for 2000 Dilithium. If you want EC instead, then try selling them on the Exchange: Search for the contraband under the Buy tab to see when it's going for, then Sell it for a little less. You may have to select Common or Any for the rarity type.

    Find out more about Contraband here: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Contraband

    Regarding Exchange items in general, the price shown in the properties window of the item has little to no validity on it's actual market value. To determine market value, always search for the item on the Exchange under the Buy tab and ALWAYS select the Rarity level that matches the item you are wanting to sell.
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  • saverick459saverick459 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013

    Level 50
    Learn to do the following:
    • NADORC Doffing (join the DOFFJOBS channel)
    • Tour the Universe
    • Manipulating the Exchange (buying low priced items, selling when they're high, for example)
    • Gorn Minefield and Starbase 24
    • Table Dancing at Drozana

    Can you elaborate on NADORC Doffing, Tour the Universe, and Gorn Minefield/Starbase24? I don't know what those are or their significance.
  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    don't deal with ferengi vendors. They show that they will give you 50% of the price but actually they give you 30% - 40%. Frakking bestards.

    Same with Gorn vendor in Klingon Academy but I guess it is a bug, unless it is a ferengi under Gorn skin.
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  • elric071elric071 Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Can you elaborate on NADORC Doffing, Tour the Universe, and Gorn Minefield/Starbase24? I don't know what those are or their significance.

    NADORC is a DOff mission. I don't remember the exact name of the mission, but it is also called "Childrens Toys". There is a starter mission that is a chain of 1, meaning it is the only mission in the chain. Then there is a repeatable uncommon mission that you can do once every 72 hours. It takes Jevonite and Shapeshifting Lockets to complete and awards one Alien Artifact. That artifact can usually fetch around 1 mil EC's on the Exchange. Also, you can run a DOff mission from you science officer on your ship to power it and a powered alien artifact will net you around 1.5 mil on the exchange. That mission can be found somewhere in the Cardassian area of the galactic map (meaning the area where the Cardassian Mission arcs take place).

    Tour the Universe is a daily mission that has a specific time of day to do it in. When you open your mission log (default J I believe, or one of the icons around the minimap; left column one up from the corner) Tour the Universe will be one of the missions that revolves with the Daily Calendar of Events along the bottom. You get the mission from someone on ESD or Qo'nos First City. I don't remember the name of the contacts, however. Then you have to fly and touch as many sectors of space as possible in one hour. The more you touch, the more EC's you get. Also, if you finish the mission before the hour is up, you can retake it again and do it over during the hour it is active.

    Gorn Minefield and Starbase 24 are PvE queue missions that award equipment. The better you place in the mission the better the equipment you recieve. 1st place recieves purple equipment, 2nd place recieves blue equipment. 3rd and 4th place also reward equipment, but I don't remember the exact rewards. These mission can be farmed for quality loot that can be sold on the Exchange for, in some cases, insane amounts of EC's.

    Hope that clears a few things up for you :)
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  • sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Can you elaborate on NADORC Doffing, Tour the Universe, and Gorn Minefield/Starbase24? I don't know what those are or their significance.

    Scheduled Events:

    (The "delta in the PADD" button, left of the Mini map) show available missions and events. Events like Tour the Galaxy/Universe?, Crafting Time, etc are shown with their start times. Tour the Galaxy is an event when you fly your ship through a list of sectors, each sector earns you EC when you have gone through all of that group. It can earn you LOTS of ECs, I have gotten about 1.7 Million EC during one event.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tour_the_universe

    PvE Queues:

    (Click on the "3 ships" button, bottom of the Mini Map) These are 5, 10 and 20 player queues that you can enter into anytime to earn Reputation Marks, Dilithium, Skill points and other rewards. Examples of queues available are Gorn Minefield, Starbase 24, etc. Some queue events only run once in a while like the Mirror Invasion/Mirror Universe Incursion - this one rewards Skill points great for leveling up a character fast, available when your character reaches level 10.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/PvE_Queue

    I don't know anything about NADORC Doffing, but here's a link:
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/NADoRC


    Some of the items above are not available until you reach certain levels. Tour the Galaxy is best when you reach VA - Level 50.

    Hope this helps.
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  • remianenremianen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    merak43 wrote: »
    however as it was just after it went free to play i quit it have been ALOT of change in the game when i played it was free ship upgrades after every 10 levels and now i need to purchase them after level 10. :)

    First, you do get a free ship every 10 levels. Whether it's the ship you want might be a different story but you do still get a free ship every 10 levels. And heck, you even get an iconic ship around level 20 or so as a mission reward.
    otisnoble wrote: »
    You are right, people get greedy and price things way out of proportion to their worth in hopes that someone will be desperate enough to pay for it. How many of these things were returned to them only to be lost because the mailbox didn't work? I try to price things at face value and people buy them.

    This is a problem with many MMO players, believing that what they think is an items value is its absolute value. In MMOs, what you are buying is TIME. If you want a particular item, you can either WAIT for it to drop for you or you can substitute that wait for game currency. Pricing things at face value is your approach. Other people price things at what the market will bear. The face value of a purple beam array is far less than its likely market value. That difference is the exact difference between "How do I make money in this game" and "pfft, only 15 mil EC?". Anyone who sold a Plasma Infuser console at face value, I'd like to thank you right now. With the demand created by a primarily plasma using race, the value of plasma items skyrocketed (as basic economics says it should given the fact that the devs didn't increase the drop rate of plasma items thus creating false scarcity). In this and every other MMO game (yes, even EVE Online), the difference between scraping along and not having anything to spend your money on, is paying attention to the relative value of items by observing the conditions around you. Plasma was always in demand due to its value in PvP however PvP isn't and never has been (and never will be) the focus of this game. Thus, an entire faction designed around that damage type (with racial traits for it as well) is, at least in the short term, going to make the value of plasma related gear skyrocket. If an item's 'face value' is 4224 but someone wants to give you 125,000 because it's worth that to them, do you insist on the 4224?

    asphe wrote: »
    Play the game and at the very least, check whatever loot you get on the exchange. If the price on the exchange is around 50% of the face value, just recycle (or better yet, sell it to NPC vendors).

    Like the other trading suggestions... another captains' treasure is someone else's trash. Some thing is overpriced when no one buys it. If you have the money, why not make your life easier... and give others a chance to take that money.

    Yeah, this. My Romulan was created two days after LoR's release and with sporadic play, she's now level 30......with 8.5 million EC. She was given no assistance by my VAs since it wasn't really necessary. She had 2 million by the time she hit Subcommander. I sold the vast majority of my drops and happened across someone selling a bunch of Cardassian lockboxes for 50 EC each. Snapped those up and relisted them at the previously prevailing price (like 5k each or something).

    Basically, this game is no different from any other MMO. I've done nothing differently from what I do in other games and I've gotten the same result: more play money than stuff to buy with it. Play smart (i.e. don't play on Elite if you can't handle it. Having to constantly buy regenerators and components can destroy your daily running balance), save your experimentation for either common drops (that you can sell when your tests are done) or VA/LG level (when EC flows like the Colorado in spring). I would also advise against making purchases that don't increase your ability to produce more income. Buying vanity pets, for example. They don't make you any more effective thus that's money that is essentially burned.
  • kologa1990kologa1990 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I actually just took the advice to check prices on and loot and such before I recycle which is what I have been doing. It works haha. Made 100k in the matter of an hour because I did not know some of my loot was worth as much as it was.
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