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Come on GUYS......if I wanted toplay somehorror show korean grindfest OCD self abuse game I would have signed up for silk road online not STO online .
PWE is falling into a cliched asian mindset of lets just add some grind to keep the mass's busy it will all be good it will not be good.
I have 10+ characters with all the storage and doff expansions running around in game and the thought of grinding more than one of them to full rep has me thinking on beating my head aginst my monitor until one of them breaks...
I paid for 10 characters all the ships I have every class the zen can buy but as any deity you want to insert here is my witness the grind is killing my will to live in the STO universe.
IF you insist on making Grind part of the game make it account bound grind or you are just killing off the sale of character expansion slots
PWE is falling into a cliched asian mindset of lets just add some grind to keep the mass's busy it will all be good it will not be good.
I have 10+ characters with all the storage and doff expansions running around in game and the thought of grinding more than one of them to full rep has me thinking on beating my head aginst my monitor until one of them breaks...
I paid for 10 characters all the ships I have every class the zen can buy but as any deity you want to insert here is my witness the grind is killing my will to live in the STO universe.
IF you insist on making Grind part of the game make it account bound grind or you are just killing off the sale of character expansion slots
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But I have played several games where that has not been the case .....one small indie post apoc game even though its horribly run actualy defines end game as a place to add new content not mindless grind.....all the grind is acheived in the actual process of leveling.....AND LVLING WAS HARD WORK but not mindless repetition like we see here now
Well, to be fair, STO leveling takes no effort whatsoever.
Going through the story contend alone gets you to 50.
What? Did you expect journeys into unknown space, venturing with your friends to strange new worlds and solve mysteries in Star Trek? Lol. Wrong game. Set phasers to pew-pew.
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what sucks is when i need 1000 romulan marks and i only get 20 or so per mission
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The Nukara marks they have us farm is 3x less than that of the other Reputations. Which is painful for those who have multiple characters (especially new Romulan characters that have to endure 3 Reputations). Which makes it literal torture when you got multiple characters. Cryptic needs to stop making STO a "Job" and make it fun, else Perfect World can forget about the Western Market, because they would avoid it like the plauge.
Mate you are just so right the grindageis so dam repetitive and boring I am thinking of finding an OCD support group and giving them my account details and letting them go to it while I actualy play a fun game till its all done then come backand play thefun things Ilike doing not the dross they force us to do.
As a former Internet Marketing Analyst, this sums it up nicely for me. [Nukara marks in particular]
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Then a couple of things happened. Another Rep was added, and I began playing some characters I had been neglecting. The prospect of going through all of the exact same grind again on more characters is extremely aggravating.
But looking at getting to T3 or T4 to get decent gear is sapping my will to play.
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I wonder if another possible way to avoid the grind would be to stick to advanced fleet gear only. Would such a ship be competitive with ships who have rep gear/passives? Food for thought.
Our fault huh?
Sorry but all i see is devs having no mercy for dedicated players.
Also i see no logic in fact that i have to do everything over again and again.(Just because i made lot of charachters dosn't mean i need to be punished for it right?)
And if i don't do them ill be left behind.I won't get gear or passives.And every edge is nice and must if u want to stay competitive with other players.
More reputations will be added by time..which means it will get worse..way worse.
So account based reputation is must.
Or atleast faction based rep.
Making reputation system account based is way to go.Simply because devs won't lose a thing with it,and players will continue to enjoy the game like it was before.(Current state of game is pure 24/7 work to maintain 5+chars..and some ppl have over 30.)
I had 12 characters before reputation was introduced killed 3 off before LOR and made 1 new reman...
Before rep I could play any of the toons I had on a casual basis stroll int PVPdo a little STF and be perfectly fine add Rep into the equation and all my toons with no Rep are weak and nerfed to hell when compared to single main character Rep grind toons ....
they may as well not sell character expansion slots no one has the time to play the 2-4 toons they get to start with with rep thrown into the equation.
I see the borg engine and think "cool, these will let me travel faster in space" then I see that they're 450 marks for just the MK X. Are you f*cking taking a p*ss cryptic? I was only getting 15 marks per STF, because I dont want to be "that guy" who runs the elites without being geared.
I am just dumbfounded. I have been staring at the screen for about 10 minutes now, wondering what should I do? Is this it? Am i at the end? Do I uninstall and move on?
Can anyone please tell me if I am overlooking something?
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Err, actually, if this is Star Trek, then that's exactly what you should expect. Of course, combat is also part of the story, but it shouldn't be the endgame.
Problem is, the only "Star Trek" in this game is the IP included in it (characters, designs, etc.). So, it's not the wrong game; it's the wrong name for this game.
Please stop rolling in your grave, Gene.
In all honesty, ESTFs aren't so much about your gear as it is knowing the map and the skills you have on your ship. I'm running ESTFs right now on my new Rommie with nothing but the Jem'Hadar set and a mix of blue/purple equips I got off of the exchange. I do quite well with that right now. If you need to learn the strategies, I would highly advise looking up some videos on the Youtubes or read some of the guides that we have floating around here. Once you get them down, you can get around 60-90 Omega Marks per run, with some dil to boot.
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What game is this you speak of?
Ok, not to make fun of OCD, but that would make a great fit. Would do it if I could. That's how tedious it is.
Why play and not move on, then? Well, at least in case, I'm a lifetimer and big fan of ST who over two years ago got sold on the idea that this game was ST. There was no Rep, no Dil, no grinding even close to today's level. Oh, and leveling was actually harder. So I actually feel invested and would rather see things improve than turn my back and walk away.
I am a new-comer to STO
I have much more experience in other MMOs like WoW, RS, etc
I do not support paying for rep.
I am really not understanding the problem. I don't mean to marginalize the opposition to the rep/gear grinds, but that is what MMOs are. A grind for gear, and to a lesser extent, actual rep.
Also, someone complained of merely getting to T3-T4 rep was giving him pause. While I haven't made it to T-5 yet, I am exactly 2 days from T3, in all 3 rep factions. I started playing STO one week before LoR came out. With the learning curve, and the leveling, and the intermittent downtime of the servers, I don't think that's a ridiculous amount of time at all to be T3. It took far far longer, and was far more difficult to grind the faction reps and gear in other MMOs. Months of raiding.
I will say I feel for those with multiple toons, but again, that's just kind of how MMOs operate. Although, if I recall correctly, blizzard did add a boost (possibly not to rep but maybe XP?) if you had a main who had already done something.
I could see not making rep account-wide, but adding a hefty discount to the marks/commodities required to level a 2nd toon if the main was already maxed out, perhaps even a steeper discount for every additional toon on the same account who got to max rep.
By the time you got to your 4th character or so, the rep would be practically free. I could see them doing it as "Oh! Toon#4! A pleasure to see you here, sir. We received word from the legendary Toon#1 to expect you. You have some very powerful friends in very powerful places. You came highly recommended from heroes Toon#1 and Toon#2. In light of your associations and recommendations, our High Command has ordered that on your arrival that you are to be immediately warded full-rank and privileges. Welcome to RepFaction, Toon#4"
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Yeah, I have watched the vids, and have a good idea what to do, even though the other people I have been playing with did not seem to, even on normal mode.
Well, it's all moot now as I uninstalled the game. I was just checking back to see if anyone had replied, and I thank you for your advice, however, do not think this game is for me.
Just wishing I hadn't dropped as much cash as I did on this game in the last two weeks. Oh well, live and learn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpfbJLLbczs
The rep grind in STO is a lot shorte/easier then even most Western MMOs currently (including WoW or even LoTRO). if yiou think it even comes close to an Asian MMO grind, you obviously have never played an Asian MMO with a grind system in place.
It's also optional. If you don't like doing the Reputation grinds in STO - don't.
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Fair enough. Take care, and I hope you find a game more to your liking out there.
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eh... no, rep grind in WoW despite being annoying, doesn't even come close to the annoyance that is rep grind in STO, at least in WoW there was some variation, and you could get plenty of the rep simply following the story through quests(most of the time).
for instance, if you want to grind nukara, you gotta kill who knows how many tholians in nukara... on and on.. and on... or kill crystalline entity on and on...
the problem is that not only its too repetitive, and has low reward, you also gotta do it on every character.
omega rep is the only one somewhat well made, in that you simply get the marks through regular play of STFs.
if cryptic were to add similar STFs with romulan/tholian theme, or at least increase the reward you get from the already existing ones, it would be great.
and its "optional" in the same sense, you can also just equip white MK X gear to an STF and run it, some of the rep buffs are to good to pass, so yeah... its "optional".
1) All items obtainable through the reputation system should be account bound on pickup
2) The waiting periods should be removed; Getting a sufficient amount of resources to complete the projects to get to tier 5 in a reputation wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have to wait 20 hours between each project
I think that would be a reasonable compromise.
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