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joshjpeter2
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Currently, I just finished "The Last Stand" mission, and what I've been hearing about the last mission of this arc is troubling. I'm a Lvl 34 tac right now, and I'm wondering if I should wait to play this mission until I level up to subadmiral and get a new ship (I'm considering the Ha'Feh as that seems the closest to an escort.) I'd just like an opinion on this.
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I wouldn't be surprised if you come back after trying thinking it's a bit of hyperbole on the criticism.
You can probably beat it with your current stuff, if you have the right approach, and a lot of patience and luck. Getting geared up would help a bit. Or get a team.
The mission is too immersion breaking for me as it is. The allies get wiped out very quickly, leaving you to fight a monstrous fleet essentially by yourself. All you have to do is destroy the command ship, but it's buried in a sea of enemies, including a couple dreadnaughts and a few battleships and lots and lots of other nastiness. Facing that situation, I'd save my crew and head out to join a Fed/KDF fleet someplace, and hope that New Romulus has a good evacuation plan.
Doing Turnaround with the gas effect doesnt really effect you that much so is perfectly doable without respirators as well.
When I have a lot of spare time though I will get back to those missions even if it is as a VA.
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I mostly just kited them out so that I could fight a few at a time and not have the whole group shooting me at once. I found it easier to steer the kited group towards Fed and KDF fleets that healed during fighting. This is the same tactic we used to use back in the old days when the STFs were long.
I did it in the T3 Mogia since I didn't like flying the DD.
I have gone back at each rank since then to get singularity cores at each rank. It gets easier over time.
Hope this helps.
Have to give you props for doing it in the Mogai. It's so much easier with the D'deridex since you get access to the Singularity Jump to hop out of the cones of doom.
along with the singularity abilities makes a very tough deri to kill.
i worked the edges until the last wave, then pulled the command ship out of the pack and killed it while allies kept the rest occupied. no deaths. i did run away a lot, heal up, come back in, was a long mission. at least until i got the command ship alone, after that is was just a matter of wearing it down. by itself it's not so uber:D
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Defense of New Romulus is one of the worst examples of mission creation I've ever encountered in any game. One wonders exactly what the team and their crack, specially selected group of "LoR Closed Beta" testers were doing, because they definitely were not testing and reporting back on the epic fail of this particular mission.
Besides the absolutely ridiculous powers of every elachi ship, big or small, in relation to the player, there are serious issues with the collision detection and physics (you'll love wayching your allies get stuck to you or others in the formation as they move...or when your eject plasma run gets stopped dead as your box gets "stuck" on an enemy box and your run is wasted) Oh and there is the unbreakable, focused elachi aggro on the player (even stealth and distance won't break it). Finally, there is the simply -bleeping- spawn differential between the player's npc cohort and the elachi (the allied respawn is about 1 to 2 random ships which enter within the elachi formation and are eaten in succession...over and over).
In my multiple runs through this awful mission, I have literally watched the final elachi group of redonkulously op'd dreadnaughts and command carrier eat the entire group of npc allies while I was waiting to respawn. Of course the player respawning is a blessing for the npc allies as every elachi ship will begin focusing on the player, either shooting, or intercepting to shoot.
As you can see, I did not enjoy that mission and I would at the least advise you to level up first, or wait for these geniuses to fix the mission. I'm about ready to end this ranting advice post, but let me say that these poorly tested and configured New Romulus arc missions convinced me to boycott premium purchases until they are resolved.
Good luck with your epic arc run.
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that was 3 weeks to play through the content and try and find bugs a lot where found and a lot where fixed. sadly they just had a set date for LoR to launch it really need another week or to of testing before going live
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Not that those were good either but at least they functioned as designed. This is like a grinder work in progress that someone published by accident.
Sure, it's beatable. If you want to retreat and sit on your butt every couple of minutes and spend twice as long beating this as any reasonable length mission in the game should be.
That doesn't make it designed properly just because it can be beaten. Anyone that doesn't see that is kind of slow, or is just missing the point on purpose.
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could of been 2 weeks i'll be honest my judgement of time is not that great
1. Weird shutdown torps that also reduce your shield's effectiveness
2. Their own version of viral matrix which is very effective at ****ing all of your systems.
3. Boarding party III
4. An uber cannon on even tiny escorts than can hit for up to 10k damage normally, or if you're unlucky can slam you with crits upwards of 40k damage.
5. A version of subspace jump that they can use, it seems, every 15 seconds or so.
6. Bigger ones can spit out a metric **** ton of fighters all with torps of their own.
7. Can see straight through singularity jumps, warp shadows, cloak (sometimes), and will engage at distance.
8. Torpedo High Yield (III i think)
9. Odd crescent cannons whose energy type is unclear
On the ground:
1. They can spawn incredibly annoying robots from aoe damage bots to flamethrower bots to stasis turrets that teleport/freeze you.
2. Move around constantly
3. Commanders can spam subspace rifts like crazy which basically blind you, hold you, and chip away at your health.
No single enemy type has this much cheese in its arsenal at the same time.
That mission, and one of the rooms in the Elachi space station are just too overwhelming as they stand now. Way too many enemies to fight at once.
Either they're smart and fix it so it's not stupidly OP with special abilities constantly going off or they just don't care and leave it alone.
Whoever designed need to never design another mission again. ever.
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The subspace rifts really bothered me, until I figured out they were immobile and then I simply walked around them.
The Elachi engineers REALLY love to flank you and put turrets behind you while you're fighting their friends. I usually shoot them in the face for trying it...
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It seems to be OP only if you use romulan ship.
Tried it on D'Deridex, understood that it will last forever and abandoned attempt....
A day later i tried to use klingon Kamarag (yes, previous rank) and did it without dying a single time. D'Deridex is just to slow and has too much power issues (either too low shield/engine power or not enough weapon power to breach flagships shields) for this mission.
Seriously, you need some maneuverability here, not only to escape AOE, but also to gain tactical advantage (evade large groups of enemy ships etc). Also you need some DPS to deal with flagship fast enough.
D'Deridex is totally unsuitable ship for this mission, and there is nothing wrong with the mission itself.
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Also i dont like D'D because its just too slow, may be the slowest ship in game. I am ok with cruisers, but D'D is just too much...
p.s. And yes, all i am trying to say is "if you have difficulties with this mission - try faster ship, may be it will be much easier"
You need some hull heals, and shield heals, you might die once or twice. It's a hard mission which is a good thing. It's called a challenge. Enjoy it and learn from it.
Stop fighting Romulan ships like Federation ships.
Also, the allied reinforcements, which the context of the mission presents as a savior force that you are holding out for the arrival of, getting obliterated in seconds and constantly locked in repair-loop is totally working as intended.
Give me a break, are you people just being purposely obtuse, or do you really not understand the most basic principles of a difficulty curve and encounter design?