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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    So cryptic i hope you dont but i know you will because you want to be greedy from the money it will bring when it comes in a lockbox. :( Set some limits please.

    It's not coming in a lockbox, for the last time! The idea of factional ships in lockboxes was shot down by the devs a while ago.
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  • gemackgemack Member Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    no it should not
  • angarus1angarus1 Member Posts: 684 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd like to fly the Scimitar, even if it didn't have the Thalaron stuff anymore. :)
  • todolocatodoloca Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The most important factor is game balance, you don't want to make a super ship if is not available to all factions, and if they do this it will only be in a lock box, I think the best thing is to make a flag ship for the Romulans, and Remans the same way the Odyssey, and Bortasqu' are for fed, and klingon, as to what it should have, well all tactical, engineering, and science should have scorpion fighters like in the movie as standard part of the design one hanger, with cruiser like weapons 4/4 that's a lot of fire power, and if is going to be a 3 ship setup, well they could play with consoles bof, modules, always trying to keep the balance, another thing is that the Scimitar is way to big for my taste, they should leave the original design for mpc boss only, and make a retrofit scale down resembling the original but with a more exotic look, and call it something else. keep in mind the major powers don't like thalaron weapons so forget about getting this, if they offer it o well what can I say.
  • zenn3kzenn3k Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm sure it'll be available eventually.
  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Scimitar is comparable to the Galaxy X Dreadnought. The NPC version of the Galaxy X is a Powerful Boss Ship and can only be defeated by multiple Players or a Fleet of NPC Ships but when it was released Cryptic lowered the stats so it would be in balance with the other playable ships and they will do the same with the scimitar, the Spinal Lance is Powerful but not powerful enough to one shot someone I suspect they would do the same with the Scimitar's Biogenic Cascading Pulse
    I've certainly been anticipating the Scimitar ever since we first started hearing rumors about a Romulan Faction so please don't ruin it for everyone else by complaining that it would be Over Powered.
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hate it or love it the Scimitar will be one of the biggest draws that the Romulan Faction will have going for it.

    Has it's already been said by another poster in this thread it's pretty much been confirmed that the player controlled Scimitar is coming and soon from the likes of it.

    I have no problems with the idea of a player controlled Scimitar and I'm sure it will be offered in 3 pack in the same lines of the KDF Bort and Fed Odyssey, I'm just hoping that one of them is Science heavy ;)

    Heck, I'm hoping that the Scimitar ends up being the Romulan Carrier.

    I'm sure that Cryptic can balance the Scimitar in size and power so that it falls in line with other vessels of its caliber.

    I'd also love to see Cryptic add the Mini (Raptor sized) Scimitar looking vessels that the Reamen were flying in the Countdown comic series that was created has the lead in to the 2009 Star Trek.

    Yes that Comic series is canon :)
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  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    errab wrote: »
    Hate it or love it the Scimitar will be one of the biggest draws that the Romulan Faction will have going for it.

    Has it's already been said by another poster in this thread it's pretty much been confirmed that the player controlled Scimitar is coming and soon from the likes of it.

    I have no problems with the idea of a player controlled Scimitar and I'm sure it will be offered in 3 pack in the same lines of the KDF Bort and Fed Odyssey, I'm just hoping that one of them is Science heavy ;)

    Heck, I'm hoping that the Scimitar ends up being the Romulan Carrier.

    I'm sure that Cryptic can balance the Scimitar in size and power so that it falls in line with other vessels of its caliber.

    I'd also love to see Cryptic add the Mini (Raptor sized) Scimitar looking vessels that the Reamen were flying in the Countdown comic series that was created has the lead in to the 2009 Star Trek.

    Yes that Comic series is canon :)
    I always thought that the Scimitar should be a Dreadnought so we have something that challenges the Galaxy X since the Romulans don't have a Dreadnought yet all I hope is that they still Include the Biogenic Cascading Pulse even is if isn't powerful enough to engulf a Fleet or a Planet it would still be Epic to get your own back on Donatra.
  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Whether it will/won't be OP is beside the point; MY point was that it won't be flying around and doing what we saw Shinzon's Scimitar do in Nemesis. It won't have the firepower of the movie ship and it's VERY unlikely to be as agile. And some players won't like that.
    I know it won't, sadly. If it did then within the first few hours Cryptic would have a mass of Butt-hurt players complaining about how "Overpowered" it is. Even if it isn't as powerful as it was in Nemesis it's still a Beautiful Ship and still worth having in my opinion.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Whether it will/won't be OP is beside the point; MY point was that it won't be flying around and doing what we saw Shinzon's Scimitar do in Nemesis. It won't have the firepower of the movie ship and it's VERY unlikely to be as agile. And some players won't like that.

    This is something that some people need to accept - it's not an Escort! The Scimitar will be massive. And while it probably won't be nearly as agile as it is in Nemesis, it should at least benefit from a Romulan Battle Cloak which gives the bonus to turn speed while cloaked.

    Agility is for Escorts. I prefer to fighter-spam from a distance.
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  • rhinzualrhinzual Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The blue isn't that bad for me. We used to have a person on the CoH forums that insisted on using walls of neon pink text. You could hear the rods and cone explode in people eyes when they stumbled across her posts.

    I think I saw some of her posts, but I can't really recall, for which I am thankful. I honestly wonder how Johnny_Butane would be if he saw how the ships and such were in this game and even played here.
  • edtheheroedthehero Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dark4blood wrote: »
    ^The above statement is ridiculous, and really shows ignorance if you believe this. The Galaxy X Dreadnaught CANNOT fire ALL weapons while cloaked. The Galaxy X Dreadnaught does not have Dual Shield arrays, 6 x the armaments of the Enterprise F and 10 Cargo bays to launch fighters. The Galaxy X Dreadnaught is nowhere near as large, go look up the numbers before making claims that have no basis.

    Just to put in perspective the difference between the "Federation Dreadnaught" and the Scimitar here are some basic reminders of stats:

    Galaxy X:

    11 phaser arrays; 3 photon torpedo launchers


    Scimitar:

    52 disruptor banks; 27 torpedo launchers

    Borg Cube:

    36 adaptive weapon arrays; 12 focused neutron beam banks; 24 tractor beam emitters, shield depletion pulse

    Do you see the ******* difference...this thing was a beast and even an alternate future ships were not even close, so STOP lying to everyone and especially yourself when you say the Other main Dreadnaughts from the Klingons and the Federation are in the same league, it is a sad misrepresentation. Just to put even more perspective of just how powerful the Scimitar is compared to the most unstoppable ships. A **** cube is less powerful on paper than a Scimitar.

    Geez, man. You should take a chill pill. Everyone has an opinion.
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  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dark4blood wrote: »
    ^The above statement is ridiculous, and really shows ignorance if you believe this. The Galaxy X Dreadnaught CANNOT fire ALL weapons while cloaked. The Galaxy X Dreadnaught does not have Dual Shield arrays, 6 x the armaments of the Enterprise F and 10 Cargo bays to launch fighters. The Galaxy X Dreadnaught is nowhere near as large, go look up the numbers before making claims that have no basis.

    Just to put in perspective the difference between the "Federation Dreadnaught" and the Scimitar here are some basic reminders of stats:

    Galaxy X:

    11 phaser arrays; 3 photon torpedo launchers


    Scimitar:

    52 disruptor banks; 27 torpedo launchers

    Borg Cube:

    36 adaptive weapon arrays; 12 focused neutron beam banks; 24 tractor beam emitters, shield depletion pulse

    Do you see the ******* difference...this thing was a beast and even an alternate future ships were not even close, so STOP lying to everyone and especially yourself when you say the Other main Dreadnaughts from the Klingons and the Federation are in the same league, it is a sad misrepresentation. Just to put even more perspective of just how powerful the Scimitar is compared to the most unstoppable ships. A **** cube is less powerful on paper than a Scimitar.
    Did you even read what I put I said it was like the Scimitar because It's a Boss ship it's the federation equivalent to a dreadnought I'm not saying that the ships themselves are alike please take the time to analyse a statement before you comment on it.
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Whether it will/won't be OP is beside the point; MY point was that it won't be flying around and doing what we saw Shinzon's Scimitar do in Nemesis. It won't have the firepower of the movie ship and it's VERY unlikely to be as agile. And some players won't like that.

    the jem'hadar dreadnought according to canon has 3x times more firepower than a galaxy, this isn't really true ingame, and i have 2 of them(yes i know its better than a galaxy, but not 3 times better).

    players didn't whine about the dread being too weak, they won't whine about the scimitar being too weak, as long as it isn't worthless, and every romulan ship so far its pretty good in my opinion.
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