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vamank
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I dont know what has happened with the new lock box but the odds are reduced and the Dil claims are almost non existent. What you get is a bunch of useless junk.
Because of this I will be sending out a fleet advisory, EVERY week and making sure anybody and everybody I know and come into contact knows that after opening 100 boxes I got basically nothing. Like the title, ITS A TRAP!
At least with the Dominion lock box if I got nothing but Dil claims that reduced my overall cost over time.
Spread the word!
Because of this I will be sending out a fleet advisory, EVERY week and making sure anybody and everybody I know and come into contact knows that after opening 100 boxes I got basically nothing. Like the title, ITS A TRAP!
At least with the Dominion lock box if I got nothing but Dil claims that reduced my overall cost over time.
Spread the word!
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100 boxes isnt a lot.
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Doesn't keep me from letting the public know my results.
100 boxes equals 150,000,000 EC or 1,600,000 DIL or roughly $125 in real Dollars. In the vast majority of the world that's more then a months pay and you say opening 100 boxes is not a lot?
I dont mind gambling some and I know the boxes are a gamble. I was quite happy with the dominion boxes as they gave you 50% back in DIL with the mining claims, at least over time but still. These new boxes are a total scam and I will not by shy about sharing my experiences. I will actually make a personal mission to do so.
Looks like at the end of the year when my main 2 run out of claims that will be the end of the free money train will have ended.
Almost everything else is TRIBBLE, and what's not TRIBBLE is not worth the amount of key yo'ull use for it.
I'm sorry if you just find that, but it is true since the very first gamblebox. There was a lot of drama about it, and then with each gamblebox, including the first 800lobi ship (which mean around 200gamblebox opened, 200$).
Now, people is used to it, and barely whine about it. Most of them spend tremendous amount of cash for a ship they will play a few days.
So yeah, gamblebox is a trap. Since the first one. And it will continue as long as people will spend 100-200$ each time they see a new box. Welcome in our world, a world full of whiner that will spend money. Just check battlefield heroes, or SWTOR, they made a p2win cash shop, people complained hard, and suddenly they made more money than before, from the same people who whined.
I do not mind the lock boxes being a gamble. Actually I enjoy the fact they are but for someone to spend over 100 bucks in ingame currency and get shafted that is nuts.At least increase the lobi rewards or make the other stuff better or more valuable.
I DONT WANT OR NEED ANY MORE DOFF PACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY ARE USELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you're wayyy late to the party. since day 1 of lockboxes, everyone and their mothers knew it was a lottery, or to put it more bluntly, a scam.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
I never got a single useful item myself, albeit I don't spend cash here so..
But that aside you are better off using the exchange in that you know exactly what the item costs you.
A new law should be put forward making it expressly illegal to require an expenditure of real money to access gambling-based rewards. In this case, the keys should be readily and easily available in-game with in-game currency not requiring that some user purchase them and sell them. And the random 'drops' from these boxes should be available for direct purchase using either in-game currency (dil), or a real money transaction between player and game provider.
Only such a codified law will slow down the annoying plethora of these gimmics.
"...or roughly $125 in real Dollars. In the vast majority of the world that's more then a months pay..."
Where the hell do you live? 1934?
Its true actually, 80% of the worlds population lives on less than $10 a day.
And 3 billion live on less than $2.50 a day.
Clicky
Most people in 'developed' nations don't realise just how poor the rest of the world is, even the poorest person in America is rich compared to 80% of the globe
100 boxes = 100 keys at 1,125z for 10 = 11,250z total = roughly E100 (?85) or $128 roughly.
I agree with the OP though, the drop chance does seem a bit off for the ship and useful items. I believe the devs themselves released a while back that the chance of getting the ship is roughly the same cost of buying in zen store (if it was there). that would mean the chances are 1 in 23 or there abouts. like the OP i've spend money and grind dil etc for keys and opened hundreds of boxes since the boxes started and i only have a D'Kora and a Galor to show for it.
This post and this thread are not so much a whine (at least my post isn't), it's a way of expressing being let down by the waste of money. Personally i think the Lobi from boxes should be a set amount instead of random and the ships from boxes added to lobi store instead, this way instead of a gamble you open a flat X number of boxes and you can afford the ship you want. Cryptic/PWE still get their money from keys as always, player gets what they want. BOTH happy.
The law makers are usually slow with catching up with these sorts of things that are going on especially anything over the internet, but expect it eventually at which point hopefully these gambling based schemes in games will be rightly stomped on. Many people say that it's the individuals choice which is the case when it comes to adults, but many companies show absolutely no morality in their business practices when it comes to children.
But it came out as expected 1/200 chance for the main prize(you could open 3 boxes and get it or open 300 and not get it!!! - but just like flipping a coin - the more you do it the higher chance you will get the side you want)
80% for doff packs
5.3 lobi per box
And you can say all you want that this isn't a whine thread, but as the saying goes, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck".
actually you can obtain keys for ingame currency at the exchange, or get zen points at the dilithium exchange and then buy the keys in the zen store.
you can`t actually buy it directly in the shop, but via this player trades, which i am not sure how it would be handled by law.
problem with that system is, you need to be patient, which is the main problem with people nowadays... they simply aren`t and so they run off to the shop and buy stuff for real money.
with my 3 toons i am roughly able to open 10 boxes a week for free without much effort (since dominion lock boxes gave out pretty decent amounts of rich dilithium claims).
maybe more, if i make a decent amount of cash due selling loot and buy some additional keys in the exchange.
it is possible to do it for free, if you have the patience. if you want to open 50 or more boxes a week, you will have to spend real money though.
don`t get me wrong, i am in no way defending the lock boxes and its drop rate, since i as well think they are a scam, but if you accept this fact and don`t waste real money on them you can pretty well live with it.
this is a F2P title and it all comes down to the point of how much do you get actually for free and at what point do you charge some real money, since this game has to pay itself somehow.
people always think F2P will throw everything in the game at them for no cost whatsoever, but as a business model this will never work.
as a matter of fact this game does it rather well (same as eve online), you can fully access every feature of the gameplay for free, no need to spent real money, as long as you are patient or put the effort into it.
maybe just one thought for the devs (as if they would actually read it :rolleyes:), if your prices wouldn`t be that ridiculously high, more people would be willing to spent money on your items... i for example will NEVER spend 10 euros for 10 lock box keys that will give me a load of useless items
I think that was about right according to the odds available online, maybe even slightly above. Honest truth - I only wanted the lobi to get my friend the Jem carrier from the store, everything else was a bonus to me.
(Another friend got the Battleship on his 5th box *lol*)
Note to game developers and publishers: leave your scummy gambling games of chance out of your games and allow the players to enjoy them without preying on their subconscious to get extra money out of them!
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KDF: K'tana level 54 tactical officer
jep, thats annoying.
i realized that after stacking up like 45 claims on my first toon, then i simply started to take turns in opening up boxes with my 3 toons. easy way to equally spread claims on all toons
problem is your lobi crystals are spread out as well, which keeps you from getting a 800 lobi ship anytime in the next 2 years, which is a big load of BS, since i was as well aiming at the dominion dreadnaught in case i wouldn`t be lucky enough to get a dominion assault carrier from a box
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I am not whining about anything butjust expressing my frustration and attempting to send a clear message that I plan to make it a personal mission to derail the scam that is being pulled on many unsuspecting players. Personally I am quite wealthy player in game with plenty of LOBI and EC and can obtain any ship in the game a few times over, so this is not about a temper tantrum but more about a clear message expressing my disgust with this newest lock box.
My purpose of opening the boxes was to obtain Lobi and sell a ship if obtained. I wouldnt be anywhere as angry if I had received more mining claims and less duty officer packs.
I'd advise anyone to play and earn the keys through gameplay. Or stop buying those altogether as they are a scam.
There are people who pay good money to buy these things or else Cryptic/PWE would have scrapped the idea a long time ago and they would have focused on making this a greater game rather than focusing on scam tactics and gambling TRIBBLE.
Unfortunately I don't see this ever changing.
To all the people complaining about the mining claims, I just don't get it. You get 5,000 FREE dil per day, per claim. You dont have to grind Dil to hit the cap with these things. If you 1 claim on average per box then that reduces the cost of the key by 33%, 2 claims per box 66%. That plus the lobi it actually makes opening the dominion boxes worth while.
I came to that formula above by figuring a key cost 15625 Dil, when the market rate is 125 Dil for 1 zen.
For all the people attempting to spread claims over many characters, that makes no sense is counter productive since Lobi is bound to character.
Sounds like every other lockbox ever made.
I opened 20.
No mining claims (did they straight up remove them??, my fed has like 15 of those).
But I did get a Mirror Universe Ha'apax, which is pretty neat I guess, probably gonna be my primary ship for awhile. Dual engi/sci stations as a eng officer is pretty nice.