Within the last month, I found myself playing a lot more on KDF over my Fed (which essentially become my alt) - and I am wondering why that's the case.
What I like about Fed:
-customization options on characters and ships
-More selection of ships should I choose to buy
-familiar ships
What I like about KDF:
-Better carrier play - I always been playing Pet Master / mobile nukes, be it STO, CO, or any other games that give me options for usign pets. Also allow me to have carrier for free.
-Better DoFF assignments, especially Marauding
-Better fleet - the Fed Fleet I joined seems to grow stale even though it suppose to be a division of a bigger fleet, not to mention not letting me use the fleet bank. The KDF fleet I join is growing, even if slowly, and let me use fleet banks.
So what I want to know is: am I abnormal, or is KDF actually better than Fed? I am trying to find a reason to make a Fed-Rom, but it seems KDF-Rom will be better...
Within the last month, I found myself playing a lot more on KDF over my Fed (which essentially become my alt) - and I am wondering why that's the case.
What I like about Fed:
-customization options on characters and ships
-More selection of ships should I choose to buy
-familiar ships
What I like about KDF:
-Better carrier play - I always been playing Pet Master / mobile nukes, be it STO, CO, or any other games that give me options for usign pets. Also allow me to have carrier for free.
-Better DoFF assignments, especially Marauding
-Better fleet - the Fed Fleet I joined seems to grow stale even though it suppose to be a division of a bigger fleet, not to mention not letting me use the fleet bank. The KDF fleet I join is growing, even if slowly, and let me use fleet banks.
So what I want to know is: am I abnormal, or is KDF actually better than Fed? I am trying to find a reason to make a Fed-Rom, but it seems KDF-Rom will be better...
People don't all base their decisions on the same criteria. There's some distinct advantages in KDF play. But I don't like the backstory for it, so I've got the dilithium farming alts and called it at that. For playing the game earnestly I generally prefer the faction that has more options for First Contact than "Destroy" and "Destroy for the glory of the Empire!".
By the same token though, I'm not going to care for one moment about anything related to any Romulan character I create, so that or those character(s) will align with the KDF as it's the only way to get some use out of the subterfuge trait and I can always use more dilithium farming alts.
Playing Feds sucks.
Harder to get contraband, prisoners.
Players seem to not be as....skilled or mAture at certain times.
Can't pvp.
Every week getting a new cstore ship. Very expensive.
I mean, cryptic doesn't even want kdf money.
Plus on an rp point of view, the Federation would crumble like a house of cards existing in such trying times.
Plus if you are in a mission that shoots up a bar, do it as a kdf.
I used to be a Federation guy but the only reason I hated the KDF is because of the UI difference i was so used to seeing blue instead of red but with the color options i can now have my blue UI with my Klingon and Romulan characters.
I love the KDF and Romulans, they are more realistic than the Federation. In reality do you really think humanity is going to extend an olive branch every stinking time to a unknown agent? How many times did it bite them in the rear end? Look at all the wars they have gotten themselves into because they neither have the political will or leadership to do end a conflict definitively.
KDF's forces attitude is the right one, shoot first and ask questions later because its better to be wrong and alive then dead and wrong.
The Romulans don't trust anyone and that as Martian Manhunter would say is a "wise policy" The Federation is too trusting of people and it gets them into unnecessary fights.
KDF Romulans tell it like it is and doesn't sugar coat it with political correctness and diplomatic fluff.
Thats why the KDF and Romulans are better than the Federation, in reality the KDF and Romulans would STOMP the Federation if they were not portrayed the villains all the time.
KDF and Romulans rock
Qapla!
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Eh, some people like to play the villains...to each their own mate.
*facepalm*:rolleyes:
Some could say that Feds are villians in disguise...
In playing 10 levels as a Federation player you destroy more ships then in the entire series of TNG...
Atleast the KDF are honest about liking to fight. :P
More players should play as the KDF. Period. It's not like Cryptic are making you pay for it, so why not play as the KDF?
I like my characters, but ever since my KDF Engineer got his Andorian Boff, he's had a bit more character to him than any of my Feds.
Pretty much this. I do hope more players come to the KDF after the LoR release. One of the big problem areas was the grating red UI that KDF players have to use, and now there will be options to pick from. That, combined with the starting from level 1 thing, will probably boost KDF numbers at least a little bit.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
i agree with OP in that Klinks are more interesting. Popping Feds and blowing **** up seems more in line with KDF. The Feds murdering everything in sight ... not so much. If you throw in the PvP, dilithium rewards and BoP then it adds up to a compelling option.
With Romulan I guess the Feds now get to experience some of that.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
OP, I understand your confusion. Reading the posts on these forums you could be lead to believe that the KDF has no content, no ship choices, and absolutely no redeemable qualities. You've discovered the popular consensus obtained via complaint posts is not entirely correct, and I salute your discovery.
Klingons have less bad filler story missions so you can actually get through them without falling asleep, the same endgame content, a thousand times cooler starbase, better free ships, the best C-Store console in the game, superior DOFFing that allows you to occasionally cap your 8K a day Dilithium without running a single mission, and less chat spammers trying to sell you things.
Feds have Leadership.
I still play my main Fed character a lot, bought the big Odyssey bundle for him, but I have no desire to make more really. KDF I have several. My Romulan will side with them as well.
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I play mainly my kdf, the kdf playstyle just fits the playstyle of the game better. it is 99% pew pew no matter what faction. Best to enjoy with the faction that has the matching attitude to that. It just feels more solid.
Some people like vulcans, others andorians, ferengi, cardassians, breen, romulan, etc, etc...Why would it be strange to like klingons? To me, personally klingons are the least favorite of the "major three". I think I even like the borg more, but still there are some stuff I like about them and although I rarely play with my klingon (orion) toon, I still have fun when I do it. These things are nothing more than personal taste. Nothing weird there.
Within the last month, I found myself playing a lot more on KDF over my Fed (which essentially become my alt) - and I am wondering why that's the case.
What I like about Fed:
-customization options on characters and ships
-More selection of ships should I choose to buy
-familiar ships
What I like about KDF:
-Better carrier play - I always been playing Pet Master / mobile nukes, be it STO, CO, or any other games that give me options for usign pets. Also allow me to have carrier for free.
-Better DoFF assignments, especially Marauding
-Better fleet - the Fed Fleet I joined seems to grow stale even though it suppose to be a division of a bigger fleet, not to mention not letting me use the fleet bank. The KDF fleet I join is growing, even if slowly, and let me use fleet banks.
So what I want to know is: am I abnormal, or is KDF actually better than Fed? I am trying to find a reason to make a Fed-Rom, but it seems KDF-Rom will be better...
Rest assured there are quite a number of KDF that loathe the Federation here.
A lot are from the hipster school of "well the Federation did X bad thing once, so anything goes" or are simply allergic to an organization with good intentions. It's a popular thing these days, as many of these replies will predictably show you.
It's horrible to them to imagine any organization with even the intention of anything other than "me me me" so they smear it in the mud any chance they get with a lot of theorycrafting and blowing exceptions in the show to the Federation's mostly-sterling record way out of proportion.
I also partially blame Ayn Rand and her goofy books.
Me? I play my KDF because only they have Gorn, Gorn are cool, and I think birds-of-prey are cool and fun to fly. The KDF as an organization and as an empire nosedived after Martok was killed, though.
OP you're not crazy. KDF rules!
Just take a look at that new B'rotlh BoP.
'nuff said.
Dear OP, shpoks is wrong. You are quite crazy. After Tuesday you will be quite sane, though.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I used to be a Federation guy but the only reason I hated the KDF is because of the UI difference i was so used to seeing blue instead of red but with the color options i can now have my blue UI with my Klingon and Romulan characters.
I love the KDF and Romulans, they are more realistic than the Federation. In reality do you really think humanity is going to extend an olive branch every stinking time to a unknown agent? How many times did it bite them in the rear end? Look at all the wars they have gotten themselves into because they neither have the political will or leadership to do end a conflict definitively.
KDF's forces attitude is the right one, shoot first and ask questions later because its better to be wrong and alive then dead and wrong.
The Romulans don't trust anyone and that as Martian Manhunter would say is a "wise policy" The Federation is too trusting of people and it gets them into unnecessary fights.
KDF Romulans tell it like it is and doesn't sugar coat it with political correctness and diplomatic fluff.
Thats why the KDF and Romulans are better than the Federation, in reality the KDF and Romulans would STOMP the Federation if they were not portrayed the villains all the time.
KDF and Romulans rock
Qapla!
What are you talking about? The Federation has never started a war (well, the occasional nutty admiral has tried, but who's counting?), but if someone mistook their benevolent nature as a weakness they have always finished it no matter the cost one way or the other.
This is basically the breakdown I've given friends in helping them try to figure out what to play when the expansion hits:
Federation - diversity and customization.
Klingon Empire - efficiency and raw performance.
Romulan Republic - linear, immersive story/experience.
Personally, my OCD thirst for 'balance' means I tend to play all sides with all classes fairly equally. Each character is a different playstyle, but I enjoy them all for different reasons. Looking forward to adding the torpedo-tank and blaster-master to the stable once the expansion lands.
OP, I understand your confusion. Reading the posts on these forums you could be lead to believe that the KDF has no content, no ship choices, and absolutely no redeemable qualities. You've discovered the popular consensus obtained via complaint posts is not entirely correct, and I salute your discovery.
I don't think anyone on the KDF side (other than the crass, uncouth trolls) would say we have 'no content, no ship choices, and no redeemable qualities'. It's more like 'less content than the Feds, less ship choices than the Feds, and maybe less 'positive' qualities than the Feds'. All of which are legit points. Your strawman argument is offensive, and worthy only of a petaQ!
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
Rest assured there are quite a number of KDF that loathe the Federation here.
A lot are from the hipster school of "well the Federation did X bad thing once, so anything goes" or are simply allergic to an organization with good intentions. It's a popular thing these days, as many of these replies will predictably show you.
It's horrible to them to imagine any organization with even the intention of anything other than "me me me" so they smear it in the mud any chance they get with a lot of theorycrafting and blowing exceptions in the show to the Federation's mostly-sterling record way out of proportion.
I also partially blame Ayn Rand and her goofy books.
Me? I play my KDF because only they have Gorn, Gorn are cool, and I think birds-of-prey are cool and fun to fly. The KDF as an organization and as an empire nosedived after Martok was killed, though.
Hahaha, the Federation is full of hypocrisy and self-interest. . .especially in STO. They spread throughout space like an insidious, passive-aggressive parasite. They become 'friends' with you, sap you of your strength and independence, and then absorb you. Just look at the Cardassians. Look at the Romulan petaQ'pu who follow D'tan. They all reek of Federation weakness, of Federation 'morality'.
When the Klingon Empire acted in response to the Undine threat, the Federation cowards backed down and refused to support their allies. They only want allies so that their weak behinds can be saved from rapacious invaders.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
I have character from each career path for both Starfleet and the Klingon side and I tend to have more fun on the Klingon side because of the Klingon Bird of Prey. They are so fun and very versatile. All other ships are so much more limited in what they can do. If you get tired of playing a certain way with a Bird of Prey just change bridge officers to something else. Go heavy sci focused or heavy tactical focused or heavy engineering focused or whatever you want. The only type of game play it does not give you with a Bird of Prey is being a carrier.
Hahaha, the Federation is full of hypocrisy and self-interest. . .especially in STO. They spread throughout space like an insidious, passive-aggressive parasite. They become 'friends' with you, sap you of your strength and independence, and then absorb you. Just look at the Cardassians. Look at the Romulan petaQ'pu who follow D'tan. They all reek of Federation weakness, of Federation 'morality'.
When the Klingon Empire acted in response to the Undine threat, the Federation cowards backed down and refused to support their allies. They only want allies so that their weak behinds can be saved from rapacious invaders.
Or quoting Michael Eddington (DS9):
"Why is the Federation so obsessed with the Maquis?... Because we've left the Federation, and that's the one thing you can't accept. Nobody leaves paradise. Everyone should want to be in the Federation... You know, in some ways you're even worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious. You assimilate people and they don't even know it."
Simply put, they are like root beer.
I think the real reason why KDF appeal better is that KDF is actually closer to a traditional gamer game play (TRIBBLE diplomacy, shoot everything or command things to shoot), while Fed is more of reading an interactive novel.
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or how about sugar on their spaghetti
Not at all. Fed rom or kdf just enjoy the game
People don't all base their decisions on the same criteria. There's some distinct advantages in KDF play. But I don't like the backstory for it, so I've got the dilithium farming alts and called it at that. For playing the game earnestly I generally prefer the faction that has more options for First Contact than "Destroy" and "Destroy for the glory of the Empire!".
By the same token though, I'm not going to care for one moment about anything related to any Romulan character I create, so that or those character(s) will align with the KDF as it's the only way to get some use out of the subterfuge trait and I can always use more dilithium farming alts.
Harder to get contraband, prisoners.
Players seem to not be as....skilled or mAture at certain times.
Can't pvp.
Every week getting a new cstore ship. Very expensive.
I mean, cryptic doesn't even want kdf money.
Plus on an rp point of view, the Federation would crumble like a house of cards existing in such trying times.
Plus if you are in a mission that shoots up a bar, do it as a kdf.
Yes. Mayo on fries rules.
I love the KDF and Romulans, they are more realistic than the Federation. In reality do you really think humanity is going to extend an olive branch every stinking time to a unknown agent? How many times did it bite them in the rear end? Look at all the wars they have gotten themselves into because they neither have the political will or leadership to do end a conflict definitively.
KDF's forces attitude is the right one, shoot first and ask questions later because its better to be wrong and alive then dead and wrong.
The Romulans don't trust anyone and that as Martian Manhunter would say is a "wise policy" The Federation is too trusting of people and it gets them into unnecessary fights.
KDF Romulans tell it like it is and doesn't sugar coat it with political correctness and diplomatic fluff.
Thats why the KDF and Romulans are better than the Federation, in reality the KDF and Romulans would STOMP the Federation if they were not portrayed the villains all the time.
KDF and Romulans rock
Qapla!
More players should play as the KDF. Period. It's not like Cryptic are making you pay for it, so why not play as the KDF?
I like my characters, but ever since my KDF Engineer got his Andorian Boff, he's had a bit more character to him than any of my Feds.
Some could say that Feds are villians in disguise...
In playing 10 levels as a Federation player you destroy more ships then in the entire series of TNG...
Atleast the KDF are honest about liking to fight. :P
Pretty much this. I do hope more players come to the KDF after the LoR release. One of the big problem areas was the grating red UI that KDF players have to use, and now there will be options to pick from. That, combined with the starting from level 1 thing, will probably boost KDF numbers at least a little bit.
With Romulan I guess the Feds now get to experience some of that.
- Judge Aaron Satie
Feds have Leadership.
I still play my main Fed character a lot, bought the big Odyssey bundle for him, but I have no desire to make more really. KDF I have several. My Romulan will side with them as well.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
In this game: A selection of ships, customization options, and episodes.
That's it, that's all people get worked up about.
Rest assured there are quite a number of KDF that loathe the Federation here.
A lot are from the hipster school of "well the Federation did X bad thing once, so anything goes" or are simply allergic to an organization with good intentions. It's a popular thing these days, as many of these replies will predictably show you.
It's horrible to them to imagine any organization with even the intention of anything other than "me me me" so they smear it in the mud any chance they get with a lot of theorycrafting and blowing exceptions in the show to the Federation's mostly-sterling record way out of proportion.
I also partially blame Ayn Rand and her goofy books.
Me? I play my KDF because only they have Gorn, Gorn are cool, and I think birds-of-prey are cool and fun to fly. The KDF as an organization and as an empire nosedived after Martok was killed, though.
Just take a look at that new B'rotlh BoP.
'nuff said.
What are you talking about? The Federation has never started a war (well, the occasional nutty admiral has tried, but who's counting?), but if someone mistook their benevolent nature as a weakness they have always finished it no matter the cost one way or the other.
Federation - diversity and customization.
Klingon Empire - efficiency and raw performance.
Romulan Republic - linear, immersive story/experience.
Personally, my OCD thirst for 'balance' means I tend to play all sides with all classes fairly equally. Each character is a different playstyle, but I enjoy them all for different reasons. Looking forward to adding the torpedo-tank and blaster-master to the stable once the expansion lands.
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I don't think anyone on the KDF side (other than the crass, uncouth trolls) would say we have 'no content, no ship choices, and no redeemable qualities'. It's more like 'less content than the Feds, less ship choices than the Feds, and maybe less 'positive' qualities than the Feds'. All of which are legit points. Your strawman argument is offensive, and worthy only of a petaQ!
Hahaha, the Federation is full of hypocrisy and self-interest. . .especially in STO. They spread throughout space like an insidious, passive-aggressive parasite. They become 'friends' with you, sap you of your strength and independence, and then absorb you. Just look at the Cardassians. Look at the Romulan petaQ'pu who follow D'tan. They all reek of Federation weakness, of Federation 'morality'.
When the Klingon Empire acted in response to the Undine threat, the Federation cowards backed down and refused to support their allies. They only want allies so that their weak behinds can be saved from rapacious invaders.
Or quoting Michael Eddington (DS9):
"Why is the Federation so obsessed with the Maquis?... Because we've left the Federation, and that's the one thing you can't accept. Nobody leaves paradise. Everyone should want to be in the Federation... You know, in some ways you're even worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious. You assimilate people and they don't even know it."
Simply put, they are like root beer.
I think the real reason why KDF appeal better is that KDF is actually closer to a traditional gamer game play (TRIBBLE diplomacy, shoot everything or command things to shoot), while Fed is more of reading an interactive novel.