Even though we answered these topics over and over already people still make them, yes even those who already got the official answer that is already out there spoon fed to them. People then come with TRIBBLE like "My mom's cousin his neighbour saw ship XYZ in the game so THIS should be possible too because of blabla".
People just won't drop it no matter how official an answer you make. So the only solution anytime a thread about it comes up is a single reply with "No. /10char" and then everyone ignoring the topic until it's off the front page. Maybe people will get it then.
By suggesting there be some official thread that gets stickied I was trying to be nice and give these people the benefit of the doubt that they were knew and honestly didn't know how it works.
I've seen 3 new threads about the JJ abrams ships and people wanting them to be put in the game just today alone. Think that puts the grand total for the week around 8 different threads or so.
I DO think the smart thing, if the money exists, would be for Cryptic to make arrangements to license the JJ-verse as a kind of "total conversion" expanshalone.
Right now, STO or CO may benefit very loosely from NW advances, right?
But if they ran a separate JJ-verse MMO (and it would need to be mostly separate, at least in terms of content/store offerings), virtually all of the mechanics could be shared and it would finance improved mechanics/action/gameplay in STO.
Because rather than two games that loosely share an engine toolset, a JJverse game and STO could FLAT OUT share an engine.
And from there, it might be easier to sort out between Paramount and CBS what crossover makes sense.
Logically, I think, a pre-Borg Narada and Jellyfish makes sense as T5 ships in STO. The Kelvin (as a replica ala the NX) makes some sense as a T1-ish ship.
Meanwhile, in the JJverse game, you could probably justify some crossover the opposite direction via the Kelvin scanner logs, Klingon torture/interrogation of Nero's men and study of the Narada, and anything that Spock Prime let slip.
Now... To keep things sensible, the JJverse game would be one faction only. But the mechanics and improvements for it could be back ported. And it would have its own ships, its own UI, its own server, and its own 1-50 content.
But things could be developed for both games and any mechanical improvements to either game could be directly ported back and forth. (And, realistically, the JJ-game would warrant some pretty radical ground game overhaul to emphasize stunts, cover, stun/kill settings, ground interactions, and physics.)
I find it quite curious about all the people who want to jump in and say Cryptic can't do this, Cryptic can't do that.. blah blah.
We 'know' (in a very vague sense of the word) what they currently (And this is the important word I suspect) license. Anything that requires further licensing is a matter of cost.
Could Cryptic say "hey Paramount, we have this game that gets x00,000 players daily, we could make you a bag of money with our 'Bridge between Universes' expansion'"
Now obviously such a thing would no doubt have many ramifications and considerations; what would CBS make of such etc? I would also suppose Digital Extremes or Namco Bandai currently hold a said license to use JJTrek, though if its exclusive is not something I know.
Can't is a very strong word; if they could use any of the Star IP, they have successfully licensed it thus proving things can be licensed.
what possible usefulness would be served by bringing in anything from the current era of JJ trek to sto? The JJ trek enterprise got its TRIBBLE kicked by a freaking TNG era romulan freighter or mining ship or w/e you wanna call it. If it wasn't for the redmatter implosion, that one freighter would have wiped out the federation, destroyed earth and moved on to do the same to the klinkers, which I will point out, according to the comm traffic that JJ Uhura intercepted, they couldn't touch the thing either. There is absolutely 0 good reason to bring in anything from those films into STO.
what possible usefulness would be served by bringing in anything from the current era of JJ trek to sto? The JJ trek enterprise got its TRIBBLE kicked by a freaking TNG era romulan freighter or mining ship or w/e you wanna call it. If it wasn't for the redmatter implosion, that one freighter would have wiped out the federation, destroyed earth and moved on to do the same to the klinkers, which I will point out, according to the comm traffic that JJ Uhura intercepted, they couldn't touch the thing either. There is absolutely 0 good reason to bring in anything from those films into STO.
well flying around at end game in t1 ships loses its appeal rather quickly.
The Abrams ships are built on reverse engineered late 24th century technology. I'm not sure they're less advanced than the ships in STO.
I do think CBS and/or Paramount would want to keep the brands fairly separate, everything else aside.
I'm not unconvinced that a Jellyfish or Narada-type mining vessel would be out of place in STO since they come from the Prime Timeline. Or that people in the JJ-verse wouldn't have some late 24th century tech or designs they could use for that matter.
A lot of this hinges on the following (mostly implied but soft-canon confirmed) points:
The Narada had scans of the Sovereign class and was outfitted with Borg tech and the most advanced Romulan tech in a retrofit after Romulus was destroyed but before it went back.
Starfleet in the JJverse got detailed scans of the Narada from the Kelvin remains.
The Narada further got upgraded in the years between Samuel Kirk's death and Spock's arrival by interfacing with JJverse V'ger.
The Klingons captured the Narada at great cost and held Nero captive. Nero escaped and destroyed Praxis in the process. (Implied in the first movie, explained somewhat in deleted scenes, covered in much more detail in the script and comics.)
The Klingons upgraded their own ships with information from the Narada and may have cured the augment virus or further tinkered with themselves based on what they found.
Both the KDF and Starfleet of the JJverse are radically different based on decades spent analyzing technology from 2388, years during which both groups believed that Romulans had that level of technology and were preparing a counter-assault using future designs.
Radiation from the Narada caused Winona Kirk to go into labor (the explanation being that she was using labor suppressing drugs which failed) and changed Jim Kirk's eye color along with causing him to be born months early, without a father. Spock's childhood was different because everyone was on heightened alert for war with the Romulans and so he was subjected to more prejudice over being half-human and potentially emotional, as well as being raised subtly differently. Chekov's parents had their first child four years earlier but gave their child the same name. (Alternate Chekov is the one who is arguably not even genetically the same as Prime Chekov. He's basically an older brother.)
Events of ST 2009 take place roughly around the time Kirk would have been a Lt. on the Farragut.
Star Trek Into Darkness takes place roughly five years before Kirk took command of the Enterprise in the Prime timeline.
yeah, abramscrapverse stuff in the game my eye!
these items mentioned are likely and entirely coincidental, the capacitor was around BEFORE the alternative stuff, so that is as as i am concerned not abramscrapverse inspired.
...... You've got your dates wrong sir.
You do realised that STO was released AFTER into darkness? The Red Matter Capacitor is blatantly taken from the 2009 film, I don't see how you can even try and pretend that it was just a coincidence.
Stop hating on JJs films because you think it's cool, it isn't. Sure, the 2009 film wasn't very Star Trek but it was still a decent space action/adventure film. I hear even better things about into darkness!
Frak all this JJ verse VS Prime verse TRIBBLE. Tweak some damn Genesis devices already so they work completely as intended and go fix the damned planets already. Then all you need to do is have Chris Pine's uniform get ripped off in every scene and him fraking every alien and non-alien chick around and BOOM everything is right with the world once again. lol
Frak all this JJ verse VS Prime verse TRIBBLE. Tweak some damn Genesis devices already so they work completely as intended and go fix the damned planets already. Then all you need to do is have Chris Pine's uniform get ripped off in every scene and him fraking every alien and non-alien chick around and BOOM everything is right with the world once again. lol
You do realised that STO was released AFTER into darkness? The Red Matter Capacitor is blatantly taken from the 2009 film, I don't see how you can even try and pretend that it was just a coincidence.
Stop hating on JJs films because you think it's cool, it isn't. Sure, the 2009 film wasn't very Star Trek but it was still a decent space action/adventure film. I hear even better things about into darkness!
Yea pretty sure Into Darkness came out like... 5 days ago. I'll assume you mean Lens Flare 2009.
The new movies are fun to watch, and I'll state for Into Darkness what I stated about 2009; Its a good action movie, not a good TREK movie.
Regarding the RMC and stuff - Paramount allowed them to use it in limited numbers in the CE as a small tie-in. They do NOT allow them to use the character likenesses or ships from the new movie. Quite simple as how it is contracted..
You do realised that STO was released AFTER into darkness? The Red Matter Capacitor is blatantly taken from the 2009 film, I don't see how you can even try and pretend that it was just a coincidence.
Stop hating on JJs films because you think it's cool, it isn't. Sure, the 2009 film wasn't very Star Trek but it was still a decent space action/adventure film. I hear even better things about into darkness!
No, he doesn't.
The movie (2009, not "Into Darkness") was released before the game, yes.
But the Countdown comics were released before either of them.
That's why stuff like the red matter is in both of them.
MMORPG.com: Are there plans to launch any content aimed at tying into the movie sequel this summer?
Daniel Stahl: We like to think that anything is possible in Star Trek Online. We continue to work with our licensor, CBS, to find ways in which we can collaborate with the Paramount movies.
This one is for all those JJ haters who keep saying "NO, NO JJ ABRAMS TREK IN STO!"
Sorry haters, but Cryptic is open to using JJ Abrams stuff in the game.
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I DO think the smart thing, if the money exists, would be for Cryptic to make arrangements to license the JJ-verse as a kind of "total conversion" expanshalone.
Right now, STO or CO may benefit very loosely from NW advances, right?
But if they ran a separate JJ-verse MMO (and it would need to be mostly separate, at least in terms of content/store offerings), virtually all of the mechanics could be shared and it would finance improved mechanics/action/gameplay in STO.
Because rather than two games that loosely share an engine toolset, a JJverse game and STO could FLAT OUT share an engine.
And from there, it might be easier to sort out between Paramount and CBS what crossover makes sense.
Logically, I think, a pre-Borg Narada and Jellyfish makes sense as T5 ships in STO. The Kelvin (as a replica ala the NX) makes some sense as a T1-ish ship.
Meanwhile, in the JJverse game, you could probably justify some crossover the opposite direction via the Kelvin scanner logs, Klingon torture/interrogation of Nero's men and study of the Narada, and anything that Spock Prime let slip.
Now... To keep things sensible, the JJverse game would be one faction only. But the mechanics and improvements for it could be back ported. And it would have its own ships, its own UI, its own server, and its own 1-50 content.
But things could be developed for both games and any mechanical improvements to either game could be directly ported back and forth. (And, realistically, the JJ-game would warrant some pretty radical ground game overhaul to emphasize stunts, cover, stun/kill settings, ground interactions, and physics.)
But that's just my $.02 there.
Yeah, and Phaers didn't work the same way the second time they were fired at the Borg either.
You wanna complain about that too?
We 'know' (in a very vague sense of the word) what they currently (And this is the important word I suspect) license. Anything that requires further licensing is a matter of cost.
Could Cryptic say "hey Paramount, we have this game that gets x00,000 players daily, we could make you a bag of money with our 'Bridge between Universes' expansion'"
Now obviously such a thing would no doubt have many ramifications and considerations; what would CBS make of such etc? I would also suppose Digital Extremes or Namco Bandai currently hold a said license to use JJTrek, though if its exclusive is not something I know.
Can't is a very strong word; if they could use any of the Star IP, they have successfully licensed it thus proving things can be licensed.
fun? profit?
The Abrams ships are built on reverse engineered late 24th century technology. I'm not sure they're less advanced than the ships in STO.
I do think CBS and/or Paramount would want to keep the brands fairly separate, everything else aside.
I'm not unconvinced that a Jellyfish or Narada-type mining vessel would be out of place in STO since they come from the Prime Timeline. Or that people in the JJ-verse wouldn't have some late 24th century tech or designs they could use for that matter.
A lot of this hinges on the following (mostly implied but soft-canon confirmed) points:
The Narada had scans of the Sovereign class and was outfitted with Borg tech and the most advanced Romulan tech in a retrofit after Romulus was destroyed but before it went back.
Starfleet in the JJverse got detailed scans of the Narada from the Kelvin remains.
The Narada further got upgraded in the years between Samuel Kirk's death and Spock's arrival by interfacing with JJverse V'ger.
The Klingons captured the Narada at great cost and held Nero captive. Nero escaped and destroyed Praxis in the process. (Implied in the first movie, explained somewhat in deleted scenes, covered in much more detail in the script and comics.)
The Klingons upgraded their own ships with information from the Narada and may have cured the augment virus or further tinkered with themselves based on what they found.
Both the KDF and Starfleet of the JJverse are radically different based on decades spent analyzing technology from 2388, years during which both groups believed that Romulans had that level of technology and were preparing a counter-assault using future designs.
Radiation from the Narada caused Winona Kirk to go into labor (the explanation being that she was using labor suppressing drugs which failed) and changed Jim Kirk's eye color along with causing him to be born months early, without a father. Spock's childhood was different because everyone was on heightened alert for war with the Romulans and so he was subjected to more prejudice over being half-human and potentially emotional, as well as being raised subtly differently. Chekov's parents had their first child four years earlier but gave their child the same name. (Alternate Chekov is the one who is arguably not even genetically the same as Prime Chekov. He's basically an older brother.)
Events of ST 2009 take place roughly around the time Kirk would have been a Lt. on the Farragut.
Star Trek Into Darkness takes place roughly five years before Kirk took command of the Enterprise in the Prime timeline.
...... You've got your dates wrong sir.
You do realised that STO was released AFTER into darkness? The Red Matter Capacitor is blatantly taken from the 2009 film, I don't see how you can even try and pretend that it was just a coincidence.
Stop hating on JJs films because you think it's cool, it isn't. Sure, the 2009 film wasn't very Star Trek but it was still a decent space action/adventure film. I hear even better things about into darkness!
Kirk's Protege.
Well he's got the fraking part down right so far.
I can live with that we I'd rather we focus on the Prime universe.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I'm really hoping for the Proto-Narada and Jellyfish to be added. Was there a new Klingon ship in the Countdown comics as well?
Yea pretty sure Into Darkness came out like... 5 days ago.
The new movies are fun to watch, and I'll state for Into Darkness what I stated about 2009; Its a good action movie, not a good TREK movie.
Regarding the RMC and stuff - Paramount allowed them to use it in limited numbers in the CE as a small tie-in. They do NOT allow them to use the character likenesses or ships from the new movie. Quite simple as how it is contracted..
Nope, the Klingons were only seen throwing badly drawn but familir ships at the Narada.
http://trekmovie.com/2009/03/26/five-page-preview-of-star-trek-countdown-4-comic/
No, he doesn't.
The movie (2009, not "Into Darkness") was released before the game, yes.
But the Countdown comics were released before either of them.
That's why stuff like the red matter is in both of them.
MMORPG.com: Are there plans to launch any content aimed at tying into the movie sequel this summer?
Daniel Stahl: We like to think that anything is possible in Star Trek Online. We continue to work with our licensor, CBS, to find ways in which we can collaborate with the Paramount movies.
This one is for all those JJ haters who keep saying "NO, NO JJ ABRAMS TREK IN STO!"
Sorry haters, but Cryptic is open to using JJ Abrams stuff in the game.