How do you feel working up the rep grinds all over again for your Romulan?

keysmachine · May 2013

I'm not sure how i feel about this. on one side of the coin we practiclly get a whole new game with a new experience to enjoy with all new technology, adventure zone and graphical updates.

but at the end of the day you'll have to work up all your rep all over again which took weeks maybe months to do depending on how often you play.

not sure how i feel about the second part.

thoughts?

nynik · May 2013

I feel fine. After all its a new character so I don't see why someone would feel at a loss, or perhaps entitled to things earned on another. I didn't grow up with games with save functions. When you started a new game it meant starting a new game. I view characters in that light.

Edit: I don't mean to accuse you of being entitled OP. Just my opinion of things in general.

phoenicius · May 2013

it will suck, but i doubt cryptic will change its mind lol, my only concern is how the hell do you get enough expertise points to fund the rep grinding, with a brand new character.

radkip · May 2013

I will not be bothering. I'm bringing one last character up to 50, doing the reputation on it, then quitting reputations forever on all new characters.

keysmachine · May 2013

i'd totally pay for a rep booster or some kind of booster pack to accelerate rep gains a little bit up to a certain capped point.

vhyle · May 2013

I never had the opportunity to do those rep grinds, mostly because I wasn't able to play soon after the game launched. So, for me it will be a very new exprience. I've done rep grinds before in other games, some of them much, much longer than in STO; also "farming" isn't a big deal for me either, mostly because of the same games in which you had to farm to get anywhere.

Since open beta for LoR, I've been spoiled by how nice it is. I just don't want to play on Holodeck right now and don't want to play Tribble because I don't want to spoil the story, lol!

Anyway, it won't matter to me, because I plan to play my Rommie as my main. The other characters I have (the 2 KDF that are near 50 already) will just farm Dilithium, and the one Fed I have won't be played at all, just used for bank space if I need it.

atomictiki · May 2013

Hell no.

Too much of a grind. Also it's ridiculous for a Romulan to be the hero via missions and treated like scum via reputation.

keysmachine · May 2013

vhyle wrote: »

I never had the opportunity to do those rep grinds, mostly because I wasn't able to play soon after the game launched. So, for me it will be a very new exprience. I've done rep grinds before in other games, some of them much, much longer than in STO; also "farming" isn't a big deal for me either, mostly because of the same games in which you had to farm to get anywhere.

Since open beta for LoR, I've been spoiled by how nice it is. I just don't want to play on Holodeck right now and don't want to play Tribble because I don't want to spoil the story, lol!

Anyway, it won't matter to me, because I plan to play my Rommie as my main. The other characters I have (the 2 KDF that are near 50 already) will just farm Dilithium, and the one Fed I have won't be played at all, just used for bank space if I need it.

the rep grinds for STO are different than what you're used to there's no active rep gains. you start projects and have to wait a designated amount of time. usually 20 hours. so basically its like a daily if you think about it. but the process of getting marks and other resources to complete those 'projects' is where the grind is.

As for your second point about not wanting to play until after the xpac has launched i totally agree. i usually stop playing games when the xpac is about to release especially if i intend of leveling a character that can only be created when the xpac comes out.

i haven't played STO in a few weeks. but its not because i don't want to its just that i don't want to continue rep grinds on a character i'm going to shift to my secondary.

voxinvictus · May 2013

I'd feel better about it if there weren't also a brand new rep, which looks like it's going to be entirely based on doing ground missions, or the same space missions which most people avoided doing to get Romulan marks because they provide such pitiful rewards.

Tholian Rep looks like soul crushing boredom waiting to happen, so the idea of doing that on my existing characters, plus my new character(s), PLUS the existing reps... it's a bit much.

voxinvictus · May 2013

phoenicius wrote: »

it will suck, but i doubt cryptic will change its mind lol, my only concern is how the hell do you get enough expertise points to fund the rep grinding, with a brand new character.

Do the mirror universe event when you can. One hour at a hardcore pace can pay for weeks of reputation.

valarauko43 · May 2013

If it takes the same number of marks per day as the others then I'll be done in 35.714 days (based on 24 hours). Looking forward to it.

drogyn1701 · May 2013

keysmachine wrote: »

I'm not sure how i feel about this. on one side of the coin we practiclly get a whole new game with a new experience to enjoy with all new technology, adventure zone and graphical updates.

but at the end of the day you'll have to work up all your rep all over again which took weeks maybe months to do depending on how often you play.

not sure how i feel about the second part.

thoughts?

Who says you have to?

I might do the rep grinds... if I choose to.

keysmachine · May 2013

drogyn1701 wrote: »

Who says you have to?

I might do the rep grinds... if I choose to.

how will you get the cool rep gear then? unless that's not your goal if that's not your goal that's fine as long as you RP.

if you don't RP though i'm curious as to what exactly you do other than float around in sector space and randomly do missions with no objective in mind at max level.

travelingmaster · May 2013

In all honesty, you don't even need the majority of that rep stuff for PvE. It only really factors in for PvP, because you need every edge you can get sometimes.

I could PvE with cheaply-obtained blue items and the right BOFF setup and still do well and pull my weight.

qjunior · May 2013

I think it will be as follows:

Omega: ISE, one run can easily last for 2 days of rep projects

New Romulus: Epohhs, though for a new character running the space daily a few times is recommended unless you want to wait until the first Epohh is ready, it also helps with expertise

Nukara: Ground ? no way. But I hear the CE is coming back(Normal and Elite versions) and gives you the choice between fleet marks and nukara marks....

shaanithegreen · May 2013

Well, I want the Romulan stuff, of course, so maybe I'll focus on that instead of trying to level them all at once.

johngazman · May 2013

keysmachine wrote: »

I'm not sure how i feel about this. on one side of the coin we practiclly get a whole new game with a new experience to enjoy with all new technology, adventure zone and graphical updates.

but at the end of the day you'll have to work up all your rep all over again which took weeks maybe months to do depending on how often you play.

not sure how i feel about the second part.

thoughts?

Well, seeing as i'm grinding the Omega rep for my second Klingon toon right now (One Fed Char T5 Omega & Romulan, One Klink T5 Omega so far) ...

Pretty good. I only started the other day and i'm already at T2.

keysmachine · May 2013

shaanithegreen wrote: »

Well, I want the Romulan stuff, of course, so maybe I'll focus on that instead of trying to level them all at once.

good point.. and that's probably the direction i'm going to go just sucks because right now my motivation for playing STO until Tuesday is ZERO.

sollvax · May 2013

I don't bother with omega rep
Borg are just way too boring

brigadooom · May 2013

I'm already bored by it, but I'll give them a run through with my sole Romulan character, while crying.

phoenicius · May 2013

travelingmaster wrote: »

In all honesty, you don't even need the majority of that rep stuff for PvE. It only really factors in for PvP, because you need every edge you can get sometimes.

I could PvE with cheaply-obtained blue items and the right BOFF setup and still do well and pull my weight.

that depends on how you wanna play, sure you can pretty much kill anything in regular pve, even with whites lol, but elite STFs unless you enjoy getting popped every single time a borg cube looks at your ship funny, you need omega t4 shield buff, so even if you're not into pvp, you still need to do a bit of rep grind.

and the romulan buffs aren't exactly easy to dismiss either(and their torpedo launcher), tholian rep buffs on the other hand seems that it only really benefits pvpers(with the exception of the tholian t4 buff).

neoakiraii · May 2013

I don't know I never did them.... I got all the marks for OMEGA with the changeover that I did not really have to grind it out, and only did a few STF's to get some gear.

and I never did one single Romulan mission ever on New Romulus or the Romulan missions thanks to the Winter event, and murdering winter bunnies for marks. I loved those races...... So I'm fine with actually now doing New Romulus missions with a Romulan, feels more right then doing them on a Klingon character since my Main will be a Romulan, and my Star Fleet officers have been demoted to slave labor. My Klingons will remain as my PVP characters, and bring glory to their houses.

thecosmic1 · May 2013

phoenicius wrote: »

that depends on how you wanna play, sure you can pretty much kill anything in regular pve, even with whites lol, but elite STFs unless you enjoy getting popped every single time a borg cube looks at your ship funny, you need omega t4 shield buff, so even if you're not into pvp, you still need to do a bit of rep grind.

and the romulan buffs aren't exactly easy to dismiss either(and their torpedo launcher), tholian rep buffs on the other hand seems that it only really benefits pvpers(with the exception of the tholian t4 buff).

I have to disagree with you here. I can do Elite STFs with my free Patrol Escort using 2800 FE gear just as easily as I can do it in my Fleet Defiant using full Omega Rep gear. Heck I've watched videos of ships soloing Infected Elite. If 1 ship can solo it the 5 ships without Omega Rep gear can too.

bohiap · May 2013

I will do the Nukara rep for my main, but I don't see myself getting any of the gear- maybe the ground set if there's a new costume. Otherwise the MXI set I have will do fine.
I will do the Romulan reputation mission to get Reman toons & costumes. I will do the Romulan Reputation for my Romulan toon, 'cause well she'll be Romulan.
But I'm not doing all three reputations with every character that I level up.

rickeyredshirt · May 2013

How do I feel about it? Excited and ready for some more fun. This is a video game right?

wolfentir · May 2013

This might seem as a silly question, but what is the point of grinding for all those marks and equipment?

What do you achieve by getting it?

voicesdark · May 2013

I think it's funny that their sole reason for not adding Romulan fleetbases into LOR was because they didn't want people to have to start from scratch all over again. That however is exactly what we're going to have to do when starting Romulan characters and yet there was no mention of that, or the fact that Romulan Characters have to do a Romulan Reputation......what we need to build reputation with ourselves for better relations with ourselves??

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neoakiraii · May 2013

voicesdark wrote: »

I think it's funny that their sole reason for not adding Romulan fleetbases into LOR was because they didn't want people to have to start from scratch all over again. That however is exactly what we're going to have to do when starting Romulan characters and yet there was no mention of that, or the fact that Romulan Characters have to do a Romulan Reputation......what we need to build reputation with ourselves for better relations with ourselves??

Big difference between starting a fleetbase over, and a Rep system....also Why doesn't starfleet just give me the MACO stuff as a Starfleet captain I should just get it :rolleyes:

thecosmic1 · May 2013

voicesdark wrote: »

I think it's funny that their sole reason for not adding Romulan fleetbases into LOR was because they didn't want people to have to start from scratch all over again. That however is exactly what we're going to have to do when starting Romulan characters and yet there was no mention of that, or the fact that Romulan Characters have to do a Romulan Reputation......what we need to build reputation with ourselves for better relations with ourselves??

That wasn't the "sole" reason, but it is an important reason. There's already over 16,000 Fleetbases in the game. We don't need another 8,000 full of Rom players screaming they can't get to T4 either. Allowing the Alliance means KDF and Fed based don't lose out when some fans shift to Roms.

As far as the Rep, so what? I'm a member of the Federation or KDF. Why do I need to grind Omega Rep? Why doesn't D'Vak just give it to me to defeat the Borg threat? See? you can say it about anything.

oldschooldork · May 2013

Won't be doing reputation at all with my romulan. In fact, I think I'm the only one who is NOT excited about the romulan faction. I play one Federation character and that's fine for me. The only reason I'm doing a romulan character is so I can farm dil/ec/duty officers for my starbase...and I don't have to spend zen on more character slots. It's not that the reputations are that bad of a grind...farm a few eppohs, play a few estf's and there ya go. Just don't want to waste the resources on a farmer.

How do you feel working up the rep grinds all over again for your Romulan?

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