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I figured out how you can get Trek heroes into STO without royalties!

matthian1701matthian1701 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Ten Forward
So, from what I understand, STO doesn't have many Trek TV characters in STO as NPCs because they would have to pay royalties for the actors' likenesses. Well, I figured out a way to get around that :D

Cryptic can make a story about how some big enemy to the Federation is threatening both space and time, and thus heroes from different eras of the UFP have to come together to beat it. The cinematic shows the backs of all these TV characters looking at a console explaining the mission to them - but BLAMMO - the console explodes due to sabotage! All the characters have their faces horribly disfigured and for the rest of the featured episode wear masks!

Tada! No royalties to actors but you still get to use the TV characters! discuss!! :D:cool:
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    And their vocal cords slashed?
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • frontline2042frontline2042 Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    A character isn't a name or even an image. The mannerisms, the speech cadence, the attitude. Giving us a human with a mask named Picard is not giving us Patrick Stewart.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I dont want to commit myself to anything here that will be used against me later, but that is quite frankly the worst idea I have ever heard.:P
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    I dont want to commit myself to anything here that will be used against me later, but that is quite frankly the worst idea I have ever heard.:P

    I think the "I want to fly a Battlestar, Cryptic should put one in" request may have been worse.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    I think the "I want to fly a Battlestar, Cryptic should put one in" request may have been worse.
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  • radefoxradefox Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    I think the "I want to fly a Battlestar, Cryptic should put one in" request may have been worse.


    They did... see Vo'Quv
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    radefox wrote: »
    They did... see Vo'Quv

    Neither the Vo'Quv, Kar'Fi or Atrox are Battlestars.

    There was a thread explicitly asking for Cryptic to put a Galactica-type Battlestar (he may have wanted a Mercury class too), complete with Vipers, into STO.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Might as well put in the Death Star and Imperial Star Destroyers since they are just from another dimension or from another galaxy. We already have Yoda ingame.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    matthian1701 wrote: »
    So, from what I understand, STO doesn't have many Trek TV characters in STO as NPCs because they would have to pay royalties for the actors' likenesses. Well, I figured out a way to get around that :D

    Cryptic can make a story about how some big enemy to the Federation is threatening both space and time, and thus heroes from different eras of the UFP have to come together to beat it. The cinematic shows the backs of all these TV characters looking at a console explaining the mission to them - but BLAMMO - the console explodes due to sabotage! All the characters have their faces horribly disfigured and for the rest of the featured episode wear masks!

    Tada! No royalties to actors but you still get to use the TV characters! discuss!! :D:cool:

    Make it so!
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    chalpen wrote: »
    And their vocal cords slashed?

    Text boxes for the win!
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  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    OR.

    They actually get some scriptwriters and some decent Voice Actors and make compelling new hero characters that make you forget all about Kirk and Picard et al.

    Last thing this needs is a cheesy Generations theme to it.
  • doubleohninedoubleohnine Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Id bet money that the character creator's best attempts couldnt lose in a lawsuit from one of the Trek actors. Its just not THAT good. Even Scotty and Bones dont look that close, and they likely had Cryptic facelifts and still dont look that close. Cryptic and foundry authors should be able to use any Trek characters in game and it could easily be argued that we are simply using other actors to portray the characters. The way JJ Trek rebooted the characters yet chose actors who resemble a certain look, at least for Spock anyways. Or like the old 007 game Agent Under Fire, same Bond look, but generic looking actor. It really kills emersion sometimes when we have to pretend the TNG cast isnt actively involved and seen in some of the missions.
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Stuff like this, or taking advantage of the age difference, or swapping an android into a new frame or a hologram to anew matrix can all work, but there's a limit. Do it too much, cut a swath of disfigurement through the entire franchise, and you're just doing the same thing over and over for the sake of doing it.

    They had quite a problem with doing that as it was at launch in the form of children/grandchildren of numerous characters, or grown-up versions of child characters, and it was pretty clear around the time you meet Riker's transporter twin's illegitimate son that aside from Miral, who they gave an actual purpose connected with her original character, they were doing it just for the sake of doing it.
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tc10b wrote: »
    OR.

    They actually get some scriptwriters and some decent Voice Actors and make compelling new hero characters that make you forget all about Kirk and Picard et al.

    Last thing this needs is a cheesy Generations theme to it.

    You mean I won't get my gun that shoots rickety bridges to take down old, washed up Federation captains?
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    doubleohnine wrote: »
    It really kills emersion sometimes when we have to pretend the TNG cast isnt actively involved and seen in some of the missions.

    The TNG cast and what they'er doing is mostly covered in the STO Novel.
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  • rbatalla1977rbatalla1977 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    We do not need to have Picard or Kirk, what we need is more stories with the crew of the Enterprise F and develop those characters. If you do a couple of good stories, Captain Shon can be our new hero.
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  • doubleohninedoubleohnine Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    rbatalla1977 wrote: »
    We do not need to have Picard or Kirk, what we need is more stories with the crew of the Enterprise F and develop those characters. If you do a couple of good stories, Captain Shon can be our new hero.

    Captain Shon is a numbskull. I'll never get behind him, and certainly not when his character progression is locked away in the Star Trek magazine I dont buy. I see Shon getting the big chair as nothing more than Andorians whinning for decades that the captain's seat of the Enterprise has been a humans only club so far. His promotion to that seat is nothing but lip service to the Andorians. His actions in the DS9 arc proved he's not worthy of that ship.
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    doubleohnine wrote: »
    Captain Shon is a numbskull. I'll never get behind him, and certainly not when his character progression is locked away in the Star Trek magazine I dont buy. I see Shon getting the big chair as nothing more than Andorians whinning for decades that the captain's seat of the Enterprise has been a humans only club so far. His promotion to that seat is nothing but lip service to the Andorians. His actions in the DS9 arc proved he's not worthy of that ship.

    Lets see...he effectively ends the Klingon/Federation War, unites the quadrant against the Borg, is instrumental in putting in motion a plan that ends the second Dominion War before it begins...

    And that's not good enough for the big chair?
  • rbatalla1977rbatalla1977 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    doubleohnine wrote: »
    Captain Shon is a numbskull. I'll never get behind him, and certainly not when his character progression is locked away in the Star Trek magazine I dont buy. I see Shon getting the big chair as nothing more than Andorians whinning for decades that the captain's seat of the Enterprise has been a humans only club so far. His promotion to that seat is nothing but lip service to the Andorians. His actions in the DS9 arc proved he's not worthy of that ship.

    You could say the same thing about Sisko or Picard if you only watched 2 or 3 episodes of the first season of each series. They became great characters because we have 7 seasons of shows and had time to develop those characters. My point is that we do not need to bring back classic characters to have great stories. With a good team of writers we can develop the Shon character or another that can be as memorable as the characters from the TV shows and movies.
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  • theonerussian762theonerussian762 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    We all want something, 8ut that will never happen.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Why all the Federation guys getting named here

    Why not Kang And Kor ?
    (I suspect the rights would be easier to get)

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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Actually If they Bring in Janeway it should be so she can be Arrested

    then they have to do that to every captain :)
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    only the ones guilty of crimes (multiple counts of murder and treason for a start)
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sisko be at the top of that list then :)

    " Sisko, determined to prevent the destruction of further Cardassian colonies, detonated a trilithium resin device within the atmosphere of the Maquis colony on Solosos III, and threatened to perform the same action on every Maquis colony in the Demilitarized Zone."

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Michael_Eddington
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Sisko is dead the prophets ate his soul years back
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    As it seems to me that this is not a serious proposal or discussion, I've moved it to Ten Forward.

    I'm guessing that CBS would never agree to something like this even if Cryptic were crazy enough to ask. And insanity is not a legal defense if they were to get sued for it.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,474 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    I dont want to commit myself to anything here that will be used against me later, but that is quite frankly the worst idea I have ever heard.:P
    No, the worst idea I ever heard happened back in '87, when I proposed to my first wife.

    This is somewhere in the bottom 10, though...
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  • lincolninspacelincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    doubleohnine wrote: »
    Id bet money that the character creator's best attempts couldnt lose in a lawsuit from one of the Trek actors. Its just not THAT good. Even Scotty and Bones dont look that close, and they likely had Cryptic facelifts and still dont look that close. Cryptic and foundry authors should be able to use any Trek characters in game and it could easily be argued that we are simply using other actors to portray the characters. The way JJ Trek rebooted the characters yet chose actors who resemble a certain look, at least for Spock anyways. Or like the old 007 game Agent Under Fire, same Bond look, but generic looking actor. It really kills emersion sometimes when we have to pretend the TNG cast isnt actively involved and seen in some of the missions.

    I wish it was like this. It's odd that Naomi Wildman and Icheb are in game, I am not sure if the actors get royalties. Yes I know they were child actors but I am unsure if that matters.
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  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    Lets see...he effectively ends the Klingon/Federation War, unites the quadrant against the Borg, is instrumental in putting in motion a plan that ends the second Dominion War before it begins...

    Thats was our characters.
  • lincolninspacelincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Why all the Federation guys getting named here

    Why not Kang And Kor ?
    (I suspect the rights would be easier to get)

    Cuz they died on DS9.
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