I've tried using a combo of the hybrid and the regular distruptors they work well together since they are technically considered the same kind of weapon they usually don't cause extra drain.
I've not tried the phased hybrids with anything else yet tho.
I think they made those types of weapons so you could have a secondary debuff and not be penalized for doing the rainbow thing.
Do you think someone could be done to compensate for a rainbow boat's problems? I don't think a console that would boost all energy types to the same bonus would be the answer- then no one would use the specialized ones (just phasers etc)
What about something that would say- increase the proc chance if you use more than one energy type
Do you think someone could be done to compensate for a rainbow boat's problems? I don't think a console that would boost all energy types to the same bonus would be the answer- then no one would use the specialized ones (just phasers etc)
What about something that would say- increase the proc chance if you use more than one energy type
Or some other benefit?
Problem? I prefer to see this as a situation where players to 'specialize' get a bonus (and potentially risk facing another player who got shields tailored to be resistant to your energy type.)
Besides, rainbow boats aren't all bad. The main disadvantage being the +30% versus +20% comparing 'mono-energy' to 'rainbow-energy.
So go out in your ship to orbital space (in orbit or outside a starbase), and compare +30% vs +20% (i.e. equip a disruptor beam array, and compare the difference between a disruptor coil console and a DEW console of the same mark.)
Not that bad right? Especially if you were previously assuming '+30%' meant an increase in DPS of 30%. Lol... not even close.
And it's such fun in PvP, everyone always assumes you're that 'no0b', never mind the purple mk 12 consoles and acc3/acc2dmg2 weapons... it makes victory all that much easier and sweeter. Even in PvE, it's fun to out-DPS the 'elite' in STFs.
All things being equal, specializing in an energy type is better than doing the rainbow. If you know your target's resistances (i.e. PvE), you can pick something like the STF Holy Trinity of AP/Disruptor/Plasma.
Otherwise, pilot tactics and skill will matter a whole lot more. Wait till the new EPtX changes hit Holo...
Now, to really get people's goat.. try putting a torp, DBB, DHC and a cutting beam up front. Don't forget to pack THY3, BO3 and CRF3.
On another paw... doesn't anyone else carry multiple sets of energy types? How many 'disruptor' BOPs does it take to keep 'disruptor hull breach' 75% up on a Borg tact cube anyway? Surely those are more important questions.
Unless the devs release a magic console that specifically helps rainbow builds, there is just too much of a cost to pay (in terms of reduced damage potential) for using energy weapons of a different energy type.
The closest I come to using different beam weapons is when I'm using Antiproton weapons and the Chroniton Dual Beam Array (which is actually an Antiproton weapon that just looks different) from the temporal warfare set.
The only other time I use rainbow builds is if I'm leveling a new character and can't obtain all of the same type of energy weapons at a particular moment ... but I switch to all the same type of energy weapons as quickly as possible.
My two personal favorites are Antiproton and Cardassian Spiral Wave Disruptors. If I'm not using those then I'm either using standard Disruptors or Phasers.
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I'm tempted to build a rainbow boat and call it the "USS Skittles".
And bind a chat command to shout "FEEL the rainbow!" every time I destroy something.
Don't even joke about that.. <runs away scared>
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I use those
Fore Weapons:
2x Advanced Fleet Andorian Phaser Dual Heavy Cannons Accx2 Dmgx2
1x Advanced Fleet Andorian Dual Phaser Beam Bank Accx2 Dmgx2
1x Kumari Phaser wing cannons Dmgx4
1x Quantum Torpedo Launcer Mk XI Very Rare Accx3
Aft Weapons:
1x Phaser Turret MkXI Acc Dmgx2
1xQuantum Mine Launcher MkXII Dmgx3
I chose to go with full andorian phaser set cause i despise rainbow boats and also i like the blue hue of the andorian weapons. Also the wing cannons just force a phaser build. In addittion, I like the phaser proc
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I've not tried the phased hybrids with anything else yet tho.
I think they made those types of weapons so you could have a secondary debuff and not be penalized for doing the rainbow thing.
What about something that would say- increase the proc chance if you use more than one energy type
Or some other benefit?
Problem? I prefer to see this as a situation where players to 'specialize' get a bonus (and potentially risk facing another player who got shields tailored to be resistant to your energy type.)
Besides, rainbow boats aren't all bad. The main disadvantage being the +30% versus +20% comparing 'mono-energy' to 'rainbow-energy.
So go out in your ship to orbital space (in orbit or outside a starbase), and compare +30% vs +20% (i.e. equip a disruptor beam array, and compare the difference between a disruptor coil console and a DEW console of the same mark.)
Not that bad right? Especially if you were previously assuming '+30%' meant an increase in DPS of 30%. Lol... not even close.
And it's such fun in PvP, everyone always assumes you're that 'no0b', never mind the purple mk 12 consoles and acc3/acc2dmg2 weapons... it makes victory all that much easier and sweeter. Even in PvE, it's fun to out-DPS the 'elite' in STFs.
All things being equal, specializing in an energy type is better than doing the rainbow. If you know your target's resistances (i.e. PvE), you can pick something like the STF Holy Trinity of AP/Disruptor/Plasma.
Otherwise, pilot tactics and skill will matter a whole lot more. Wait till the new EPtX changes hit Holo...
Now, to really get people's goat.. try putting a torp, DBB, DHC and a cutting beam up front. Don't forget to pack THY3, BO3 and CRF3.
On another paw... doesn't anyone else carry multiple sets of energy types? How many 'disruptor' BOPs does it take to keep 'disruptor hull breach' 75% up on a Borg tact cube anyway? Surely those are more important questions.
The closest I come to using different beam weapons is when I'm using Antiproton weapons and the Chroniton Dual Beam Array (which is actually an Antiproton weapon that just looks different) from the temporal warfare set.
The only other time I use rainbow builds is if I'm leveling a new character and can't obtain all of the same type of energy weapons at a particular moment ... but I switch to all the same type of energy weapons as quickly as possible.
My two personal favorites are Antiproton and Cardassian Spiral Wave Disruptors. If I'm not using those then I'm either using standard Disruptors or Phasers.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=295581
Don't even joke about that.. <runs away scared>
Fore Weapons:
2x Advanced Fleet Andorian Phaser Dual Heavy Cannons Accx2 Dmgx2
1x Advanced Fleet Andorian Dual Phaser Beam Bank Accx2 Dmgx2
1x Kumari Phaser wing cannons Dmgx4
1x Quantum Torpedo Launcer Mk XI Very Rare Accx3
Aft Weapons:
1x Phaser Turret MkXI Acc Dmgx2
1xQuantum Mine Launcher MkXII Dmgx3
I chose to go with full andorian phaser set cause i despise rainbow boats and also i like the blue hue of the andorian weapons. Also the wing cannons just force a phaser build. In addittion, I like the phaser proc
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Admiral Atraxis of the U.S.S. Daskalogiannis (Avenger class Cruiser) "I am Iron Cat!"