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maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in PvP Gameplay
Q: (dontdrunkimshoot) Will STO soon be able to use the Neverwinter PvP tools so PvP can finally get some attention?

STO Team: PvP is on the radar and something we?d like to update for STO. Stay tuned! Also, we are all proud of the recent graduates from PvP Boot Camp, and all the organizers and coaches! Great job to all involved with that program.



so much for their "pvp will be updated next season" line they fed us before legacy of romulas was announced.

looks like we're on the back burner again.

good job cryptic.
mancom wrote: »
Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    Q: (dontdrunkimshoot) Will STO soon be able to use the Neverwinter PvP tools so PvP can finally get some attention?

    STO Team: PvP is on the radar and something we?d like to update for STO. Stay tuned! Also, we are all proud of the recent graduates from PvP Boot Camp, and all the organizers and coaches! Great job to all involved with that program.



    so much for their "pvp will be updated next season" line they fed us before legacy of romulas was announced.

    looks like we're on the back burner again.

    good job cryptic.




    Their goals for PvP are to make PvP approachable to all, that includes PvErs.


    Gecko is interested in adding a "competitive PvE" element to PvP and doesn't seem to be in favor of Zero Sum PvP (i.e. Arena).


    PvP will get some form of a Rep system (to guarantee player time investment and to create dailies). Effectively new variables, new shinies, new must-haves.




    A PvP focused season is not going to be some messianic re-balancing of powers, oodles of new maps and modes.


    You sure you don't want to stay on the back burner? ;)
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    ya noticed my question got answered, to bad it was another non commitment. i still think there will be something before the year is out though

    hey, at least the long lost brel skin will see the light of day, along with a tier 2 bop refit. maybe another fleet bop will follow? they really need a fleet version of every one of the raptors and bops, hope that all comes soon after LoR. shouldn't be to hard to make fleet ships compared to something all new with special consoles and stuff.
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I got first post on that thread. #swag

    Remember when we were told PvP would be getting attention 'next season', oh... maybe back in Season 3?

    Their 'competitive PvE' so far has turned out to be nothing more than an over glorified DPS race. Sure, you can rack up points by healing - but you can also rack up way more by just sitting at 9.7KM and blasting away.
  • hellion1965hellion1965 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    ok, so I have purchased the legacy of Romulas starter pack. and according to my perfect world account, I now have a download pending. whats up with that? I thought that once purchased I aquire the packs from the c-store on may 21st. so now my question is do I have to download it? I saw the download was over 4gig so I am thinking that it is the sto game itself, am I correct?
  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    ok, so I have purchased the legacy of Romulas starter pack. and according to my perfect world account, I now have a download pending. whats up with that? I thought that once purchased I aquire the packs from the c-store on may 21st. so now my question is do I have to download it? I saw the download was over 4gig so I am thinking that it is the sto game itself, am I correct?

    No idea. Maybe you should ask in the C Store subforum, where it belongs :)
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    ok, so I have purchased the legacy of Romulas starter pack. and according to my perfect world account, I now have a download pending. whats up with that? I thought that once purchased I aquire the packs from the c-store on may 21st. so now my question is do I have to download it? I saw the download was over 4gig so I am thinking that it is the sto game itself, am I correct?

    Swing and a miss...
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
    Do you even Science Bro?
  • warlordsobwarlordsob Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    ya noticed my question got answered, to bad it was another non commitment. i still think there will be something before the year is out though

    hey, at least the long lost brel skin will see the light of day, along with a tier 2 bop refit. maybe another fleet bop will follow? they really need a fleet version of every one of the raptors and bops, hope that all comes soon after LoR. shouldn't be to hard to make fleet ships compared to something all new with special consoles and stuff.

    trolled dstals on tts the other day and he stated " we would like to revamp pvp but this will not be until after romulan update, maybe next year sometime." that is literally what he said NEXT YEAR....

    NEXT YEAR I will have no need for this half TRIBBLE pvp space game or what I like to call it pvp junk code...

    I?ll be patrolling the Cathcart and surrounding systems?hope to see some of you all there..
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    warlordsob wrote: »
    trolled dstals on tts the other day and he stated " we would like to revamp pvp but this will not be until after romulan update, maybe next year sometime." that is literally what he said NEXT YEAR....

    NEXT YEAR I will have no need for this half TRIBBLE pvp space game or what I like to call it pvp junk code...

    I?ll be patrolling the Cathcart and surrounding systems?hope to see some of you all there..

    dont suppose you or anyone got this in a screen capture?

    id love a montage of all the "next year's" he's given us.
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
    Do you even Science Bro?
  • mavhaxmavhax Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    *laughs*

    Ya'll are still posting questions about this? Ya'll should know better by now. It ain't gonna happen.

    PvP development requires effort, and that's something cryptic doesn't do.
  • warlordsobwarlordsob Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    dont suppose you or anyone got this in a screen capture?

    id love a montage of all the "next year's" he's given us.

    oh please do i need a good sig
  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yeah, between PvP and exploration, I found that to be a pretty depressing Ask Cryptic. :(

    It's weird. They both seem much more 'repeatable' than STFs or the New Romulus stuff to me. I would have been keen to build on that myself.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    capnmanx wrote: »
    Yeah, between PvP and exploration, I found that to be a pretty depressing Ask Cryptic. :(

    It's weird. They both seem much more 'repeatable' than STFs or the New Romulus stuff to me. I would have been keen to build on that myself.

    Unfortunately the prevailing mindset that seems anti "zero-sum" PvP means it's not taken seriously.

    PvP as endgame should be a no brainer for a free to play game, an endgame where your players happily fight each other.

    No story writing, voice overs required. No need for story missions, featured episodes, new enemies with new powers or artwork.


    Instead it seems we will get something none of us actually want or have asked for, competitive PvE with a Rep/grind system attached to it.
  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    mavhax wrote: »
    *laughs*

    Ya'll are still posting questions about this? Ya'll should know better by now. It ain't gonna happen.

    PvP development requires effort, and that's something cryptic doesn't do.

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    "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen.
    "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
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  • dant158#3249 dant158 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »

    STO Team: PvP is on the radar and something we?d like to update for STO. Stay tuned! Also, we are all proud of the recent graduates from PvP Boot Camp, and all the organizers and coaches! Great job to all involved with that program.

    Weird, that's almost word for word the same answer in the last ask cryptic I read before I stopped playing... Go figure :rolleyes:
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Well... according to cryptic, LoR isn't a season.

    But yea... It would be nice to give the PvP'ers something else than nerfs to focus on for a while.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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  • skurfskurf Member Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    warlordsob wrote: »
    trolled dstals on tts the other day and he stated " we would like to revamp pvp but this will not be until after romulan update, maybe next year sometime." that is literally what he said NEXT YEAR....

    NEXT YEAR I will have no need for this half TRIBBLE pvp space game or what I like to call it pvp junk code...

    I?ll be patrolling the Cathcart and surrounding systems?hope to see some of you all there..

    They keep giving the same reason/excuse time after time as if we're all a bunch of ****tards with **** for brains.

    "All of our devs are currently working on S6, but we plan to revamp PvP when we're done with it."

    "Sorry, all of our resources are being devoted to S7 at the moment. We will work on PvP next year when we're done with S7."

    "Oh hey, even though we hired new devs, they're working on LoR, new costumes, ship skins, new PvE scoring systems, new lobi consumables, bug fixes, and anything and everything that has nothing to do with PvP, but we're gonna string you dumbasses along and say we'll get to PvP when we're done with this stuff, but in reality we're just going jump directly into something else that has nothing to do with PvP. Suckers."
  • mrkollinsmrkollins Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I just don't wanna give up with STO.

    It's a fantastic game, I love the fact that you're able to do PvP in Ground and Space. Besides balance issues, it's a great game, it just lacks of end game content.

    And hopefully, hopefully the Dev team knows this and they are working on it.
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  • dant158#3249 dant158 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    mrkollins wrote: »
    It's a fantastic game,

    It's really not...

    It has enormous potential, potential to be literally one of the best (the IP, the space combat core mechanics). But that potential isn't being realised, and won't be under this studio.
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    mrkollins wrote: »
    I just don't wanna give up with STO.

    It's a fantastic game, I love the fact that you're able to do PvP in Ground and Space. Besides balance issues, it's a great game, it just lacks of end game content.

    And hopefully, hopefully the Dev team knows this and they are working on it.

    I agree, but even if they never improve PvP, I'm not leaving. I have too much fun playing with a great group of guys, including those guys on my list.
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  • seansamurai1seansamurai1 Member Posts: 634 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    dont suppose you or anyone got this in a screen capture?

    id love a montage of all the "next year's" he's given us.


    This needs to happen, in video overlaid with the team America 'everyone loves a montage'.
    ;):p
  • sboslayersboslayer Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Meh, I guess we have to used to the idea that they will take until the game dies to fix it lol.
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ya noticed my question got answered, to bad it was another non commitment. i still think there will be something before the year is out though

    hey, at least the long lost brel skin will see the light of day, along with a tier 2 bop refit. maybe another fleet bop will follow? they really need a fleet version of every one of the raptors and bops, hope that all comes soon after LoR. shouldn't be to hard to make fleet ships compared to something all new with special consoles and stuff.

    Well from what ive seen now non of those skins are available for any high tier bop again so w.e. its the usual stupidity seen like never before.

    Well what you said, at least they finally do release it. Imo any bop should be able to wear any skin, its just stupid the way it is now. lol
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