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T5 allied ships should be usable by Romulans
roboticzebra
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As I have been playing through LoR I have been hearing that you will only be able to use T1 through to T4 allied ships. I feel its awesome to be able to fly allied ships but if we can use them shouldn't we be able to use their T5 ships as well? This is quite a bummer because if I was going to ally with FED I would like to use the many C-store ships I BOUGHT. I am wondering what other people are thinking, because after listening to priority ones interview of dstalh he said that not using a Romulan ship would make you feel that your givcinv some of your fire power away, I am more than happy to sacrifice a little fire power for my trust armitage or dreadnought.
What are you guys thoughts?
What are you guys thoughts?
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Personally idk havent had the chance to fly a D'Deridex yet since thats locked
Personally though if the D'deridex is as good as a galaxy dreadnaught like i have on holodeck you will never pull me out of it lol
But until i get to fly the D'deridex i can only speculate and hope so until then i cannot give more then an opinon based on bias since i like rommies
I would prefer the Romulans not have access to allied T5 ships. That would be a step in the wrong direction in my opinion.
I'm glad that they aren't. Tier 1 to 4 is like buying old army surplus. It's old and the government doesn't need it anymore. The Federation/Klingon Empire can afford to trade off these old ships because they aren't necessary for their own defense.
Heck, one could argue that some of these ships are too much from a story POV due to the still relatively new technology given in most of these ships, like the Intrepid-refit, which gives the Nadeon Detonator.
Anywho, tier 1 to 4 is their choice though. And I feel it is a good choice, because all those lower tiered ships you bought for you Feds and/or KDF toons, will now have more usage and greater purpose across your new Romulan toons.
It's not like they are taking away your tier 5 ships. I can still gladly go hop on a Klingon and fly around in a B'rel. I just won't be able to fly that B'rel as a Romulan. So at the tier 5 level, again, ignoring lockbox ships for the moment, you'll still mostly see Romulan, Fed, and KDF ships.
It feels like a fair exchange. Romulans get usage of lower tier ships, and in turn, we get an actual variety of ships at tier 5 instead of only seeing new Romulans in the same thing we see already.
The Romulan faction as it currently stands is more diluted that was expected anything more and you may as well not bother with this faction.
Besides Dev blog #9 basically says the the Romulans can fly EVERY ONE of their ships at T5, for a cost in zen.
I don't know about you but getting to level 50 just to fly my ally ship that I fly on my faction toon already seems a wasted opportunity to try something new, Something I have waited for three years.
This was the only faction I wanted to play.
If you want to fly T5 Fed or KDF ships, roll a Fed or KDF toon.
Don't like it? Don't play a Romulan.
Giving the romulans access to T5 ships of the other factions is bad. This would simply go to further destruction of faction uniqueness that has slowly been going on. The lower tiers is something that I can begrudingly accept because that gives them console access and more options. (Though that would need to get Nuked if cryptik decides that you can change your allegiance)
It is also possible to explain why this happens more or less decently.
right now there wont be many endgame romulan ships. later, there will be some more. but as the buzz settles down, people will go back to their feds, which will get the better ships again, and the romulans will end up like the klinks, with not many ships, and not much support (it will take some time, but it has a high chance of happening).
however if the romulans had access to T5 faction ships, they would just simply the best choice of all, so that would not make much sense either (but atleast they would prevail
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So, at the moment, they'd be cut off from Vice Admiral ships, but have access to Rear Admiral ships. If the level cap goes up, they'd get access to Vice Admiral stuff but not have access to Fleet Admiral stuff.
On game mechanics, if Romulans had access to the T5s of their allied faction, then if they didn't give them access to Romulan Warbirds, the forums would be worse with hatred then it already is
The next thing you people will be asking you want to be able to create the other faction Species too. You want Fed or KDF ships, go play that faction it's that simple.
As it currently stands Romulans pretty much dominate Tier 1 and Tier 2, there is no real incentive to use another factions ships. Why should Romulans be able to get everything? Then why bother playing another race?
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
And the rommies dominate tier 1 and 2? In what universe does that even make sense?
Do people do a pile of ultra-low-level PvP in this game? At Tier 1, Romulans don't have an allied ship to use... it's just the TOS Bird of Prey, which is a pile of fun, but, from what I've seen, is pretty well balanced with the B'rel. If balance between player ships meant anything at Tier 1, which it doesn't.
Nor does it at Tier 2, really. The ships at that level just need to be fun and worth playing on their own, which pretty much all of them are.
Yes they do. You'll be heavily surprised. The Romulan Warbird as it stands makes the Klingon Raptor and Federation Escort a bit redundant.
Should quickly add, lower level pvp is becoming quite popular because of the way 50 pvp is. TOS Bird of Prey starts with plasma weaponry which is a much greater pain at lt than at ltcmdr.
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but - why lower tier ships? No, really .. why?
As some smart people said:
If you want to fly a fed/kdf ship, play a fed/kdf char - or
not using a romulan ship would make you feel that your giving some of your fire power away
And if romulans are an own faction - such "tricks" shouldn't be necessary. And if it does - why can't fed/kdf buy lower tier romulan ships?
it is probably because romulans will not have that many low level ships.
tho having no t5 ships for romulans, I feel having t4 is just a marketing thing, that they can say, "hey get our new faction stuffz, they haz the federation and kdf shipz too - only t4 and below, but that we wont really say many times, so you might just start and lvl a new char, and realize this only at lvl 50"
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It's supposed to represent how, despite receiving aide from either of those two governments, it shows how they're not quite ready to part with their top-of-the-line starship technology.
Again, completely fine with not having access to T5 FED or KDF ships. I'll be more than happy with my D'deridex and Advanced Warbirds.
Infact
I would say let them have t1 t2 and t3 standard issue ships
and only the t1 and t2 c store
personally I'll be flying reliable Romulan hardware
this ^^^^^^ sorry but you want to fly fed/kdf ships make a alien make it look like a rom then fly your fed/kdf ships all day long.......
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Makes perfect sense to me.
now that's out the way my next point is in the end many people are forgetting that the Rom's don't have many ships, at most with out all the refits thay have 5 ships including the one you start with. this alone bugs me more than being able to fly Fed or KDF.
i would happily say "no" if the Roms had a full complement of ships to chose and keep things leveled, unless cryptic are holding some of there ships back from the bate testing, this will simply not be the case there for if you do take the Fed/KDF ships away all you are left with is one Tear line of ship, the "war bird". no escorts, no cruisers, no sci ships and no carrier type ships cloaking or no, i don't like my odds of fighting a carrier supported by escorts, cruisers and SCI ships. the Roms will be to out matched with out the over faction ships, less thay get some of there own even if over time the other factions ships are replaced with new Rom ships.