How about it gang? Want some new Cryptic ship designs in game? Do you have a design you like from the old contest that you feel should get in game?
Post your thoughts, reasons and some links to pics when applicable. Let's try to keep it in the 'original' or 'unused' designs category. Meaning not something we have seen on screen. (Those are almost used up)
Not just no, but hell no. We have starfleet captains in tholian ships, breen ships, jem'hadar ships, ferengi ships...Cryptic has done enough damage to Star Trek canon as it is. By all rights the jem' hadar and breen shouldn't even be in the game because there's no wormhole to the gamma quadrant. The game has already become more Cryptic Online than it is Star Trek Online. It doesn't need to go any farther over the cliff.
Personally I wish we out-leveled all canon ships by level 19. As the game is set in the 25th Century it should have all new ship designs for us to use rather then the way STO is now - ever fan-boy getting whatever ship they want and none of it making any sense at all.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
By all rights the jem' hadar and breen shouldn't even be in the game because there's no wormhole to the gamma quadrant. The game has already become more Cryptic Online than it is Star Trek Online. It doesn't need to go any farther over the cliff.
There is a working wormhole. It's right there near DS9.
Have you ever gotten to the gamma quadrant through that wormhole?
Yes, in the 2800 FE.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Actually the only Canon now is the JJ Abrams Enterprise as thats eliminated the old timeline.
The timeline is not eliminated. It exists parallel to JJ's timeline - much like the Terran Empire exists parallel to the regular universe. CBS still produces novels, comics, and other merchandise for the Prime timeline - and they could make a new series or animated series set in the Prime timeline any time they wished.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
They posted this placation to stop the nerdrage, but if you use the shows own mechanics, the current timeline is rewriting the old one. The mirror universe is a more stable alternate as it isn't being rewriten.
They posted this placation to stop the nerdrage, but if you use the shows own mechanics, the current timeline is rewriting the old one. The mirror universe is a more stable alternate as it isn't being rewriten.
There will probably never be another JJ Trek movie either. JJ is busy with Star Wars now, and Disney wants to produce 1 SW movie a year.
And JJ Trek is owned by Paramount, not CBS. CBS can't use any of the JJ timeline Trek without permission from both Paramount and from JJ.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I don't think adding new ship designs would be going over a cliff, it would be adding new stuff to the game, not a bad thing at all. You don't have to like the new ships, but maybe you would. Variety is the spice of life.
Out leveling the old ships at lvl 19? No way, terrible idea, I'm sorry. Should we only wear the new uniforms too?(Only one design in that category I like) Part of the appeal and big draw of this game is getting to fly those ships from the Trek series you love. Yeah it's the 25th century in the game, but this is a game. Not a series. If you want the story and immersion, you can still have that, you just got to use your imagination a bit.
Star Trek Online and the new novels has never been canon and never will. The only canon is from the movies and TV shows. So right now there are 4 universes, Star Trek Online universe, Novel universe, JJ universe, and the Canon universe which has no content since Nemesis. More Cryptic designed ships that are Starfleet or Klingon would always be good. More Cryptic designed race ships that make sense like Lethean ships would also be cool instead of those lockbox ships.
Yes and no. It could allow for more ship variety and playstyles, but I personally despise the 2409 visuals. The only good looking ones are the Thunderchild and Odyssey. The Venture is by far the worst (which is sad, because those Nacelles look really cool. ) I kind of wish that we stayed in the TNG era for this game.
(The more that I think about it though, I think it's the 2409 Deflector Dishes. Those things look like TRIBBLE)
Yes and no. It could allow for more ship variety and playstyles, but I personally despise the 2409 visuals. The only good looking ones are the Thunderchild and Odyssey. The Venture is by far the worst (which is sad, because those Nacelles look really cool. ) I kind of wish that we stayed in the TNG era for this game.
(The more that I think about it though, I think it's the 2409 Deflector Dishes. Those things look like TRIBBLE)
The thing is the ship appearances are subjective. The ones you hate others will love.
When TNG first broadcast there was a huge uproar on the BBS about how ugly the Galaxy was compared to the streamlined Connie and Excelsior. Thousands hated it and ripped into it mercilessly. It's all subjective and you're never going to please all Trek fans with anything.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I myself LIKE Cryptic-designed ships. The Bortas, the Vet ships, and some of the interesting and new Romulan ships over on Tribble atm.
So yes, I would thoroughly enjoy more of their designs. I'm pretty confident I would enjoy any design they have.
However, it isn't so much the design that would worry me about new ships they add...it would be the stats. Like Klingons wouldn't really need even more battlecruisers, I'd more want a new Raptor on-par with the latest Fed escorts, etc.
When they want to make something look awesome, they make it look awesome and get it right on the money IMO.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
I like their 'Star Cruiser' designs. I kitbashed a bit to make a custom one, but I really like what I ended up on. The Odyssey is okay (hated it at first, kinda grown on me. But UGGGHHH@those Nike swoosh nacells), the BortasQ is great!
I would like to see some more original designs in game.
The thing is the ship appearances are subjective. The ones you hate others will love.
When TNG first broadcast there was a huge uproar on the BBS about how ugly the Galaxy was compared to the streamlined Connie and Excelsior. Thousands hated it and ripped into it mercilessly. It's all subjective and you're never going to please all Trek fans with anything.
I think it has less to do with personal preference, and more to do with the lack of visual direction this game possesses. I think we can all agree that this game is woefully inconsistent when it comes to it's aesthetics. On one side, the TOS-TNG era ships, character models and outfits are all very realistic, while on the other, the environments, 2409 era ships, and body proportions are all very, very stylized.
If the game was consistent with itself, we could all accept new Cryptic ships regardless of what they looked like.
Come May 21st, I'm getting a buttload of new ships.
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I'd love to see more original designs, as long as they don't stray *too* far from established design conventions. And I don't think that's a harsh limitation.
I think it has less to do with personal preference, and more to do with the lack of visual direction this game possesses. I think we can all agree that this game is woefully inconsistent when it comes to it's aesthetics. On one side, the TOS-TNG era ships, character models and outfits are all very realistic, while on the other, the environments, 2409 era ships, and body proportions are all very, very stylized.
If the game was consistent with itself, we could all accept new Cryptic ships regardless of what they looked like.
I will simply say that the Sovereign was certainly more stylized than the Galaxy.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
BACK OFF CANON SHIP NERDS! BACK OFF! I know you love your precious canon ships but this thread is for original designs only!
*ahem*
Anyway, I'd like to see a REDESIGNED Jupiter class carrier for the Feds. Yes, I said REDESIGNED. Not the ugly tugboat we have now. Assault cruisers should also get the Typhoon class skin, or introduce the Typhoon as a new cruiser.
Bridge Commander mods had a lot of interesting designs as well, maybe serve as inspiration for Cryptic's artists to design new ships.
And hell, I'll just throw it out there. Give me a Tellarite ship too. :rolleyes:
Yes more Cryptic ships, I like how they do them....no one is ever gonna agree how a ship looks....people think the Galaxy class is ugly, or the TMP Enterprise is ugly...Terk fans do0n't agree on jack so why even bother trying just make them and some will hate it and some won't....that's how it has always been in Star Trek. .
Everyone will always have their favorite, and complain the other is ugly because they think their own taste is what matters and everyone else opinions don't matter.
Once, the canon designs are done, i would love to see this game to start veer in its own direction. With more original designs and more 2409 updates to Earth and other places.
I'd like to see a couple of new ones, sure. They did pretty good with the Orion, Gorn, and Nausicaan ships, and the Dhelan-class Warbird is nice. Then there's the at sexy beast called the Odyssey and the [russianaccent]operational battlecruiser[/russianaccent] called the Bortasqu'. Even the K't'anco is pretty nice, for a much older design.
This list is of course not counting designs that are derivative of existing ships - see; Venture, Bellerophon, Thunderchild, etc. Re-imaginings and original ships are not the same thing.
I definitely want to see more originals from Cryptic. Perhaps a Reman ship line with a heavy Sci/Tac focus, or the long-missing Lethean ships. We've got plenty of Fed ships, and still a handful more to get through before we'll need more originals there.
I knw the chimera is form the design the enterprise contest but what happened to all the other submitted designs? why not just use them ??? whats the hold up
I knw the chimera is form the design the enterprise contest but what happened to all the other submitted designs? why not just use them ??? whats the hold up
Cryptic still has them, but what's the rush of using them? It's not like we need a new ship per week. One every couple of months is fast enough. People need time to grind that Dilithium.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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There is a working wormhole. It's right there near DS9.
And the Breen are from the Alpha Quadrant.
I would like to see more Cryptic Ships in this sandbox MMO.
Immersion went out the door long ago so just fly what you want and don't worry about what others are flying.
I want the Insignia Class.
http://www.markkingsnorth.com/category/starships/insignia-class-starship/page/2/
Have you ever gotten to the gamma quadrant through that wormhole?
There will never be another Next Gen movie.
It's all JJ from here on.
They posted this placation to stop the nerdrage, but if you use the shows own mechanics, the current timeline is rewriting the old one. The mirror universe is a more stable alternate as it isn't being rewriten.
And JJ Trek is owned by Paramount, not CBS. CBS can't use any of the JJ timeline Trek without permission from both Paramount and from JJ.
Out leveling the old ships at lvl 19? No way, terrible idea, I'm sorry. Should we only wear the new uniforms too?(Only one design in that category I like) Part of the appeal and big draw of this game is getting to fly those ships from the Trek series you love. Yeah it's the 25th century in the game, but this is a game. Not a series. If you want the story and immersion, you can still have that, you just got to use your imagination a bit.
And that Insignia Class? I like it!
(The more that I think about it though, I think it's the 2409 Deflector Dishes. Those things look like TRIBBLE)
When TNG first broadcast there was a huge uproar on the BBS about how ugly the Galaxy was compared to the streamlined Connie and Excelsior. Thousands hated it and ripped into it mercilessly. It's all subjective and you're never going to please all Trek fans with anything.
So yes, I would thoroughly enjoy more of their designs. I'm pretty confident I would enjoy any design they have.
However, it isn't so much the design that would worry me about new ships they add...it would be the stats. Like Klingons wouldn't really need even more battlecruisers, I'd more want a new Raptor on-par with the latest Fed escorts, etc.
When they want to make something look awesome, they make it look awesome and get it right on the money IMO.
I would like to see some more original designs in game.
I think it has less to do with personal preference, and more to do with the lack of visual direction this game possesses. I think we can all agree that this game is woefully inconsistent when it comes to it's aesthetics. On one side, the TOS-TNG era ships, character models and outfits are all very realistic, while on the other, the environments, 2409 era ships, and body proportions are all very, very stylized.
If the game was consistent with itself, we could all accept new Cryptic ships regardless of what they looked like.
STO Forum member since before February 2010.
STO Academy's excellent skill planner here: Link
I actually avoid success entirely. It doesn't get me what I want, and the consequences for failure are slim. -- markhawman
Not really. It was far more Star Warsy than anything. (But how that was relevant to what I said, I have no idea)
For example, they could have to carry a section of Marines in one episode and they might not get along well with a Star Fleet crew.
BACK OFF CANON SHIP NERDS! BACK OFF! I know you love your precious canon ships but this thread is for original designs only!
*ahem*
Anyway, I'd like to see a REDESIGNED Jupiter class carrier for the Feds. Yes, I said REDESIGNED. Not the ugly tugboat we have now. Assault cruisers should also get the Typhoon class skin, or introduce the Typhoon as a new cruiser.
Bridge Commander mods had a lot of interesting designs as well, maybe serve as inspiration for Cryptic's artists to design new ships.
And hell, I'll just throw it out there. Give me a Tellarite ship too. :rolleyes:
Everyone will always have their favorite, and complain the other is ugly because they think their own taste is what matters and everyone else opinions don't matter.
This list is of course not counting designs that are derivative of existing ships - see; Venture, Bellerophon, Thunderchild, etc. Re-imaginings and original ships are not the same thing.
I definitely want to see more originals from Cryptic. Perhaps a Reman ship line with a heavy Sci/Tac focus, or the long-missing Lethean ships. We've got plenty of Fed ships, and still a handful more to get through before we'll need more originals there.
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