Isn't the JJprise already supersized? I seem to recall some figures out there putting it on size with the soverign, which would make this thing scimitar-sized.
I was somewhat intrigued with the top view of Harrison's starship as the Enterprise made an attack run across it. The large saucer has holes built into it. Not unlike some of the early starship concepts for STO.
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Isn't the JJprise already supersized? I seem to recall some figures out there putting it on size with the soverign, which would make this thing scimitar-sized.
Why does it matter? All I said was that it was Bigger than the Constitution class they have there. Hence ''Super sized''.
Isn't the JJprise already supersized? I seem to recall some figures out there putting it on size with the soverign, which would make this thing scimitar-sized.
I remember reading somewhere that the producers are planning to scale down the JJprise for this movie so that it's closer to the dimensions of the original.
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I remember reading somewhere that the producers are planning to scale down the JJprise for this movie so that it's closer to the dimensions of the original.
I wonder how they are going to reconsile that with the enormous shuttlebay or the brewing plant they have in engineering? Definately a good move to downsize it, regardless.
I actually didn't mind the first JJ Trek too much, I actually did think it was entertaining. Yeah, it had plot holes and what not but it was good enough for me to watch all the way through and not feel like I wasted my time. Same with The Dark Knight Rises, there is a ridiculous amount of plot holes in that movie but I still absolutely loved it, because to be honest - 99.99% of all movies AND books has plot holes. As long as you get the POINT of the story, that's all that matters.
That said, I'm NOT looking forward to this new movie. I'll go see it, I'll give it a chance, but so far I haven't really seen anything too intriguing.
Everybody keeps saying things like "I bet the ship is this class!" but I'd be willing to bet it's just going to be like a super enterprise or something because that's the simplicity of these new movies. Like I said, I liked the other movie, but I can see why the JJ Trek haters hates them, because it was pandering to teenage entertainment - But you know what? I twas a simple fun movie. I think this movie is going to have the same kind of simplicity, I think that other ship is just going to be a mu version of the enterprise, and the whole time I'm watching that space battle, I'm going to be thinking of this:
This is not star trek it will never be star trek and only think star trek about all this garbage Jar Jar Abrams is producing is the title.
JJtrek is an abomination of the star trek universe and no JJTrek is not canon
U mad bro? There's always Spock's Brain, Space Hippies, Star Trek V and Janeway-Paris salamander babies to fall back on for quality Trek that's canon...
1) It could be the JJ-verse equivalent of the Excelsior.
2) It could be an ?ber section 31-ish ship based upon sensor scans and perhaps debris from Nero's ship. (Robert Orci in an interview used that as a justification for the JJ-verse Enterprise seeming more "advanced") I say Section 31 not to fan-TRIBBLE, but more because the teasers state he's an "operative". Also, he's wearing a "black" star fleet uniform which must mean he's* DUN DUN* evil!
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3) if he is NOT Khan ( that is JJ isn't jiggering the teasers to keep us off-base)'. Then perhaps he *could* be an augment? He tells Kirk he's better at "everything" and in the current teaser we DO see things that *could* be cryo-pods. this could be the "family" he's trying to save?
- just having fun.
How the hell do you of all people make so much more sense than everybody eles.
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No discovering strange new worlds, no seeking out new life or civilisations, no boldly going where no-one has gone before.
Just fights, explosions, more fights, more explosions and lens flare.
I'm looking forward to STO's expansion far more.
MINOR SPOILER
I would note the red forest with the distant yellow clad savages in the trailers. It has been reported on the 'net that this is the opening portions of the film where the under-experienced Kirk botches the Prime Directive regarding observation of a culture on an alien world. Though it is only the opening portion of the film, it is "seeking out new life or civilisations".
I'd also note Star Trek, from the beginning, has been a study of the universe inside a man as much as the universe outside of one. "Wolf in the Fold", "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", "Family" and "Measure of a Man" to cite a few examples. Chris Pine has stated that this film shows the internal conflict and growth within Kirk as he's forced to set aside his reckless brashness, acknowledge his weaknesses, and mature into the leader he was meant to be.
U mad bro? There's always Spock's Brain, Space Hippies, Star Trek V and Janeway-Paris salamander babies to fall back on for quality Trek that's canon...
...oh, wait a minute...
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Lmao - nice!
XD
lol yup, don't forget the one with the salt vampire. Star Trek was never that great that anyone can be making outlandish statements and a lot of what Star Trek came to represent was thanks to what the fans made of it, not entirely the show itself. At a time when everyone was convinced we were one nuke from oblivion it gave us a vision of a bright future which we, the fans, embraced and expanded on. Much of the lore surrounding the franchise was fan created. Take that away and examine the various series and movies on their own merits and you find a lot more similarities than differences.
That ship may be a Federation/Klingon hybrid design since we know Klingons are involved, whatever it is, it's friggin huge. Given that the Abrams Enterprise is about the same length as a Galaxy (ya I know all the arguments but the size was upped to explain the scale of the hanger sequences) this ship is almost as big as a D'deridex.
Why is it I'm going to be rooting for the bad guy? I do like that ship.
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Looks a bit like a Galaxy apart from the straight pylons
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"What did the Motion Picture have to do with Star Trek?"
Well you more or less showed your utter and total lack of knowledge and comprehension in that one statement to the point that nothing else you wrote is of consequence to me
I don't see why. The only reason there aren't more explosions in TMP-era movies is due to tech limitations.
You'd be crying just as much if they had access to modern era CGI effects back then, because it would be just as much (if not more) explosions.
I would note the red forest with the distant yellow clad savages in the trailers. It has been reported on the 'net that this is the opening portions of the film where the under-experienced Kirk botches the Prime Directive regarding observation of a culture on an alien world. Though it is only the opening portion of the film, it is "seeking out new life or civilisations".
Which makes it "more Trek" than any of the franchise's films.
This discussion is silly, like the appearance of that new ship.
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Better picture of Harrisons ship down below.
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Why does it matter? All I said was that it was Bigger than the Constitution class they have there. Hence ''Super sized''.
I apologise , I'm having a bad day.
I remember reading somewhere that the producers are planning to scale down the JJprise for this movie so that it's closer to the dimensions of the original.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
It's a Jem'hadar Bug wearing a Galaxy Class.
That said, I'm NOT looking forward to this new movie. I'll go see it, I'll give it a chance, but so far I haven't really seen anything too intriguing.
Everybody keeps saying things like "I bet the ship is this class!" but I'd be willing to bet it's just going to be like a super enterprise or something because that's the simplicity of these new movies. Like I said, I liked the other movie, but I can see why the JJ Trek haters hates them, because it was pandering to teenage entertainment - But you know what? I twas a simple fun movie. I think this movie is going to have the same kind of simplicity, I think that other ship is just going to be a mu version of the enterprise, and the whole time I'm watching that space battle, I'm going to be thinking of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypImwB56JAg&t=4m28s
...oh, wait a minute...
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Lmao - nice!
XD
How the hell do you of all people make so much more sense than everybody eles.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
MINOR SPOILER
I would note the red forest with the distant yellow clad savages in the trailers. It has been reported on the 'net that this is the opening portions of the film where the under-experienced Kirk botches the Prime Directive regarding observation of a culture on an alien world. Though it is only the opening portion of the film, it is "seeking out new life or civilisations".
I'd also note Star Trek, from the beginning, has been a study of the universe inside a man as much as the universe outside of one. "Wolf in the Fold", "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", "Family" and "Measure of a Man" to cite a few examples. Chris Pine has stated that this film shows the internal conflict and growth within Kirk as he's forced to set aside his reckless brashness, acknowledge his weaknesses, and mature into the leader he was meant to be.
That ship may be a Federation/Klingon hybrid design since we know Klingons are involved, whatever it is, it's friggin huge. Given that the Abrams Enterprise is about the same length as a Galaxy (ya I know all the arguments but the size was upped to explain the scale of the hanger sequences) this ship is almost as big as a D'deridex.
Why is it I'm going to be rooting for the bad guy? I do like that ship.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
You'd be crying just as much if they had access to modern era CGI effects back then, because it would be just as much (if not more) explosions.
Which makes it "more Trek" than any of the franchise's films.
This discussion is silly, like the appearance of that new ship.
Analysis on what was shown so far. That's all.
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