It was only that size based on a single scene with inconsistent scaling. Every other shot was roughly consistent with its official size, which is only about 20% larger than the original with the gains heavily weighted to the nacelles. I say roughly consistent since it still varied by +/- 25% or so, which still keeps it in narrower tolerance than the Defiant.
The finalized length of the Enterprise is portrayed as 2379.75 feet (725.35 meters) in the Starships Blu-ray feature and Star Trek - The Art of the Film (see Note 4 near the bottom of p. 160). Gizmodo blog writer Jesus Diaz was the first to reveal this number, citing as his source a "David B." of Bad Robot Productions. [2] Bob Plant of Round 2 Models provided the exact same figure, saying it was specified by the licensor of their planned model kit, who in turn had obtained it from ILM. [3] "My gosh, yes ? JJ did make the ship that big. According to our (very reliable) source, the ?actual? size of the ship is 2379.75 feet long. It?s a whopper. A 1/2500-scale kit would put the assembled model at about 11.5″ inches long, which is just right for standard size packaging."
I can't get over the fact that the Enterprise is using Dual Antiproton Beam Banks and Quantum Torpedoes at the end of the trailer. JJ Trek isn't bad for science fiction, but it shouldn't bear the name Star Trek with all of the blatant misuse of canon. There were so many mistakes in that first film. Uhura ordering cardassian kanar, Nero's "simple mining vessel" with more firepower than a Scimitar, Spock falling in love with Uhura, the incorrect age difference between several of the characters, etc. I will certainly watch the film, but I wish Abrams had just created a new science fiction universe.
That was the point of the temporal muck-a-muck. You don't need to hold to all the previous canon, because it's invalid.
It's a major stumbling block for Star Trek drawing in new fans. . . there's twenty years of canon to catch up on to have the faintest hope of knowing what's up. Trek desperately needed new life, and JJ Abrams brought it.
Who the hell stole Star Trek Online's Monarch-class and gave it to him?!
Nah, it can't be the Monarch-class, the Monarch is a Galaxy variant and thus suck eggs at combat seeing as their only good for tanking. Whereas this drednaught looks like it can kick some serious a@#.
Nah, it can't be the Monarch-class, the Monarch is a Galaxy variant and thus suck eggs at combat seeing as their only good for tanking. Whereas this drednaught looks like it can kick some serious a@#.
But what if it was carrying MkXII gear with Plasma-infused Romulan Science consoles? That's a good 8k dps hitting on a T1 ship!
"Last Engage! Magical Girl Origami-san" is in print! Now with three times more rainbows.
This is not star trek it will never be star trek and only think star trek about all this garbage Jar Jar Abrams is producing is the title.
JJtrek is an abomination of the star trek universe and no JJTrek is not canon
There was a time when Trek was all about action rather then talking. Kick was punching and kicking someone almost every episode - and him constantly getting his shirt ripped. Heck, there's even a Kirk-roll in the game to emulate how often he did it in the series.
Even the Trek movies were about action - with the exception of The Motion Picture. I think people forget that as they are lulled into Picard's strong calm voice.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Honestly I'm wondering if this isn't the JJverse equivalent of Franz Joseph's Federation-class Dreadnought.
I mean the Kelvin in the last movie gave off a Saladin-class vibe.
I'm also wondering if this is Harrison's ship and not a ship some corrupt officers high up in Starfleet sent to get rid of the Enterprise after Kirk and co. capture Harrison.
To be honest, all you can do is speculate. Abram's creative team can't even properly differentiate between a Romulan Warbird and a Klingon Battlecruiser. It could be anything really.
As long as you have fun and it entertains you, then that's the upside I guess.
To be honest, all you can do is speculate. Abram's creative team can't even properly differentiate between a Romulan Warbird and a Klingon Battlecruiser. It could be anything really.
As long as you have fun and it entertains you, then that's the upside I guess.
I guess you did not watch Enterprise when a Fleet of Klingon Warbirds was a threat :P
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Abram's creative team can't even properly differentiate between a Romulan Warbird and a Klingon Battlecruiser.
TOS episode "The Enterprise Incident". The Enterprise crosses the Romulan Neutral Zone, and is immediately surrounded by three Romulan-owned D7 Klingon battle cruisers. (Confirmation they're Roms? Spock has to seduce - well, almost seduce, this was '60s TV - the female commander of the battle group.) This was presided over by the Great Bird of the Galaxy himself.
On the other paw, when did Abrams get them confused? We never even saw either sort of ship on screen in the last movie - we heard about the Klingon fleet being attacked, and we inferred the existence of the Romulan Star Empire, but neither was actually shown.
On the other paw, when did Abrams get them confused? We never even saw either sort of ship on screen in the last movie - we heard about the Klingon fleet being attacked, and we inferred the existence of the Romulan Star Empire, but neither was actually shown.
I think it was during the Kobiyashi Maru test when the D7s de-cloaked and McCoy reported them as "Klingon warbirds".
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Being an entirely different reality than the original Star Trek, I have no issues with the dark tone and big action As we've seen in Star Trek, there are cases where the timeline can both overwrite itself (Yesterday's Enterprise), and have multiple different realities co-existing (Parallels).
JJTrek exists alongside Prime Trek more-or-less, and neither are bound by the other's rules (and that includes 'what Star Trek is about').
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I think it was during the Kobiyashi Maru test when the D7s de-cloaked and McCoy reported them as "Klingon warbirds".
What? You mean the Starfleet cadet who aims at being a career Ship's Surgeon, and who isn't overly fond of space travel, misidentified an alien craft while under stress? Oh, the shame of it all!
What? You mean the Starfleet cadet who aims at being a career Ship's Surgeon, and who isn't overly fond of space travel, misidentified an alien craft while under stress? Oh, the shame of it all!
I don't think he was under stress...he seemed pretty calm since he was giving dirty looks to Kirk.
But the Klingon Warbird thing was also said on Enterprise by Soval. so it's not that Crazy.
$5 says that big bad ship in the new trailer is a photoshopped USS Dreadnought (Photoshopped to remove third nacelle) of the Federation Class type battleships mentioned in the TOS book "Dreadnought:
Worried about what a Lego knock-off toy for seven-year-olds makes a Bird-of-Prey look like? Look up at their version of the Enterprise. I couldn't even tell that was the Enterprise without the 1701 on top. If there's one thing I can guarantee, its any ship you see in the movie will look nothing like a megablocks model.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
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*sigh*
It's continuing to look like Into Darkness has managed to revise out everything that made me defend the first JJ film. Looking more like Nemesis.
Yay!!
From http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28alternate_reality%29
The finalized length of the Enterprise is portrayed as 2379.75 feet (725.35 meters) in the Starships Blu-ray feature and Star Trek - The Art of the Film (see Note 4 near the bottom of p. 160). Gizmodo blog writer Jesus Diaz was the first to reveal this number, citing as his source a "David B." of Bad Robot Productions. [2] Bob Plant of Round 2 Models provided the exact same figure, saying it was specified by the licensor of their planned model kit, who in turn had obtained it from ILM. [3] "My gosh, yes ? JJ did make the ship that big. According to our (very reliable) source, the ?actual? size of the ship is 2379.75 feet long. It?s a whopper. A 1/2500-scale kit would put the assembled model at about 11.5″ inches long, which is just right for standard size packaging."
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It's a major stumbling block for Star Trek drawing in new fans. . . there's twenty years of canon to catch up on to have the faintest hope of knowing what's up. Trek desperately needed new life, and JJ Abrams brought it.
"Last Engage! Magical Girl Origami-san" is in print! Now with three times more rainbows.
Support the "Armored Unicorn" vehicle initiative today!
Thanks for Harajuku. Now let's get a real "Magical Girl" costume!
Nah, it can't be the Monarch-class, the Monarch is a Galaxy variant and thus suck eggs at combat seeing as their only good for tanking. Whereas this drednaught looks like it can kick some serious a@#.
But what if it was carrying MkXII gear with Plasma-infused Romulan Science consoles? That's a good 8k dps hitting on a T1 ship!
"Last Engage! Magical Girl Origami-san" is in print! Now with three times more rainbows.
Support the "Armored Unicorn" vehicle initiative today!
Thanks for Harajuku. Now let's get a real "Magical Girl" costume!
that thing is the size of an ambassador class, let alone an excelsior. in the 2250s cmon JJ, this is all absurd.
JJtrek is an abomination of the star trek universe and no JJTrek is not canon
*whew*, glad we can agree on Star Trek Online bein....oh wait, you said "JJTrek", my bad.
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Even the Trek movies were about action - with the exception of The Motion Picture. I think people forget that as they are lulled into Picard's strong calm voice.
Name one Trek movie that's more about peaceful exploration than stopping bad guys.
Exploration works great on TV, but not so great on the big screen.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
My theory on the big mystery ship is it is the new timeline version of the Excelsior. Likely this timeline's NX stolen by that Sherlock jerk!
Haters: I pity you, the rest of us are going to go for a fun ride. Enjoy your time back in nitpick land.
Really because even TMP was promoted as if it was an action flick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5vK8hCVrFg ohh but Action in Trek oh no that never happened
If TMP had the budget that new Trek had.....that preview would have more expositions
and JJ trek is canon go ask the Romulans:P
Edit: Let's see other Trek movies TWK was an action flick so was promoted as such
and the other peaceful Trek movie was promoted as a comedy action flick Voyage home
To be honest, all you can do is speculate. Abram's creative team can't even properly differentiate between a Romulan Warbird and a Klingon Battlecruiser. It could be anything really.
As long as you have fun and it entertains you, then that's the upside I guess.
I guess you did not watch Enterprise when a Fleet of Klingon Warbirds was a threat :P
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
On the other paw, when did Abrams get them confused? We never even saw either sort of ship on screen in the last movie - we heard about the Klingon fleet being attacked, and we inferred the existence of the Romulan Star Empire, but neither was actually shown.
I think it was during the Kobiyashi Maru test when the D7s de-cloaked and McCoy reported them as "Klingon warbirds".
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
JJTrek exists alongside Prime Trek more-or-less, and neither are bound by the other's rules (and that includes 'what Star Trek is about').
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I don't think he was under stress...he seemed pretty calm since he was giving dirty looks to Kirk.
But the Klingon Warbird thing was also said on Enterprise by Soval. so it's not that Crazy.
http://www.startrek.com/article/first-look-hasbros-star-trek-toys-revealed
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
Worried about what a Lego knock-off toy for seven-year-olds makes a Bird-of-Prey look like? Look up at their version of the Enterprise. I couldn't even tell that was the Enterprise without the 1701 on top. If there's one thing I can guarantee, its any ship you see in the movie will look nothing like a megablocks model.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Naaahh should not worry about a toy for 7 year olds.
THIS SHOULD! BEHOLD!!!!! http://scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/impressive.jpg MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :P
BTW the BOP is that ship chasing the other ship Kirk and crew are in.
And you all better enjoy it because when Gene comes back from the dead he will smite all of you heathens!!
Anyway, looks popcorny.