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travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited April 2013 in Klingon Discussion
So, we haven't had a thread discussing ideas for new ships for the KDF lately. Figured I'd start one and try to get some discussion going.

I don't have any specific ship designs thought out, as I'm not especially good at that. . .but I feel the next ships the KDF should get should be Gorn, Orion, Nausicaan, or Lethean.

We need 1-3 more Gorn, Orion, and Nausicaan ships, and a Lethean ship, all at tier 5. Preferably in the destroyer/raptor/sci ship range, as the KDF could use more of those. Especially with destroyers/raptors. For tier 5, we have 8 easily-obtainable raptors/destroyers available. I'm not counting the Pegh'qu or the Krenn Temporal Destroyer, because those are expensive/difficult to get. . .and I'm not counting the Mirror Qin Raptor, because it's scarcely different from the original Qin and it's still gimped in turning axis.

So, anyone have specific design guidelines they'd like to see followed? Speak up!
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Ferasan's are very popular so perhaps a escort carrier for them would be fitting.

    I'd like to see a c-store Battlecruiser that is Lethean or Klingon in nature that is fairly different from what we have. Not everyone is into fleet ships due to their one character for 2000 Zen nature and so something that c-store purchasers can get and use on various different characters would be a welcome addition.

    I'd also like to see a decent science ship come to the c-store that or bring in a free one and buff the current Gorn ship to be better than a differently skinned Fed science vessel.
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  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Honestly, all I want is for player versions of the Orion Corvette and Gorn Vishap Frigate to be made available as alternatives to the starter BoP when we get to start at lvl 1 again (maybe a Nausicaan Syphon Frigate too). Those and a Fleet Dacoit. Anything else is gravy.
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    capnmanx wrote: »
    Honestly, all I want is for player versions of the Orion Corvette and Gorn Vishap Frigate to be made available as alternatives to the starter BoP when we get to start at lvl 1 again (maybe a Nausicaan Syphon Frigate too).

    They would be cool but I don't think very successful if they add it as a c-store option like the NX, Oberth etc

    I can't imagine a lot of KDF players would buy them considering most of us are already at level 50 with one or more characters. Now if they were say thrown into a Gorn, Orion and Nausicaan pack with uniforms, weapons, duty officers etc like the Fed ENT and TOS bundles it might be worth the investment for a lot of us. Can't go wrong with a free ship when you're after uniforms. ;)
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  • rovakiinrovakiin Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I want a Fleet Ch'tang BoP. Love the skin and don't understand why it's only available at Captain level.
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    No more bops and destroyers with a lame 15 turnrate! :D
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Honestly, we really need an escort-esque ship with 5 tac consoles that isn't the Bug.

    And maybe we should also be asking for what we DON'T want as well. Like I don't want another Battlecruiser. I'm looking forward to my Fleet Negh'var and everything, but we don't really need more BCs.

    Also, wouldn't mind a Lethean-built ship of some kind, I don't care what it is.
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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    K'Vort class Bird of Prey is most needed and is missing from the game and all I can think is why is it not in the game already.

    What I would love to see is a Klingon Tactical pack a Klingon Science pack and a Klingon Engineering pack.

    The Tactical pack would have a 5 Tactical console K'Vort , Vor'Cha and Negh'Var.

    The Science pack would have the K'Vort , Vor'Cha and Negh'Var with Sensor Analysis and favoring Science consoles.

    The Engineering pack would have the K'Vort , Vor'Cha and Negh'Var favoring Engineering consoles.

    I know this would probably never happen.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I would not mind a 5 forward 3 aft Battle Cruiser with 5 tac console slots for the Klingons.
    Otherwise I think we klinks are okay and the Devs need to work on the other races in the KDF.
    Where is our ferasin vessels for example?
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  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The BOP from Enterprise and the Augment Klingon ship would be interesting.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Honestly, all I want is for player versions of the Orion Corvette and Gorn Vishap Frigate to be made available as alternatives to the starter BoP when we get to start at lvl 1 again (maybe a Nausicaan Syphon Frigate too). Those and a Fleet Dacoit. Anything else is gravy.

    I agree. The Corvette and the Vishap really would be a nice addition and give escort pilots another option besides Klingon ships.

    Other than that, I'd love to see a contemporary Klingon, small, agile, dedicated Science ship along the lines of the Nova.
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  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Honestly, we really need an escort-esque ship with 5 tac consoles that isn't the Bug.

    And maybe we should also be asking for what we DON'T want as well. Like I don't want another Battlecruiser. I'm looking forward to my Fleet Negh'var and everything, but we don't really need more BCs.

    Also, wouldn't mind a Lethean-built ship of some kind, I don't care what it is.

    Agreed, a break from battlecruisers would be nice. I like fighting alongside 'em, but all we've been 'getting' is battlecruisers, when we REALLY want a few more options in terms of raptors and destroyers at the Fleet/Lt. General level. We have four Fleet battlecruisers, but only three Fleet Raptors/Destroyers, and the Destroyer doesn't have a built-in cloak. Get that number up to 5-6 Raptors/Destroyers, and give us a better Flight-Deck carrier to match the friggin Armitage.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Honestly, we really need an escort-esque ship with 5 tac consoles that isn't the Bug.

    And maybe we should also be asking for what we DON'T want as well. Like I don't want another Battlecruiser. I'm looking forward to my Fleet Negh'var and everything, but we don't really need more BCs.

    Also, wouldn't mind a Lethean-built ship of some kind, I don't care what it is.

    Agreed. No more battlecruiser. We want a real escort with 5 tac consoles! :D

    And if the devs really don't want to make another raptor (although that may be the most popular option) why not a Fek'Ihri K'Norr Escort with a phased shift console?
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  • sjokruhlicasjokruhlica Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd be happy with a BoP with a third rear weapon. They're not keeping up with the newer escorts and the defensive creep that's been happening.
  • aurigas7aurigas7 Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    1st on my wishlist: K'Vort Bird of Prey. Gimme that super heavy disruptor cannons, 5 tac consoles. Call it a battlecruiser ffs. since it was called so in TNG. Just gimme a proper bop with supersized, mean wingtip cannons. Nao !

    2nd: Nausicaan flight deck cruiser/ heavy escort carrier triple pack. A horizontal design, following the design principles of the destroyer escort. Just bigger. Delivered with a set of stinger fighters. Leaning towards eng/sci to complement the escort line.

    3rd: Tuatara/Draguas cruiser triple pack. The design looks very compact, manouverable and tough. A ship for all the Gorn tac/eng captains out there.

    4th: Lethan bird of prey. Since a bop is just the perfect ship for a Lethean assasin.

    5th: Orion combat explorer triple pack. Some kind of crossbreed between fleet Nova and Vesta. Leaning towards sci/tac to complement the flying pigs out there.

    Yeah, no bloody kitty ship. Go away with this manga TRIBBLE.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd be happy with a BoP with a third rear weapon. They're not keeping up with the newer escorts and the defensive creep that's been happening.

    I sometimes dream of a 5 fore 2 aft BoP.........
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  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    Agreed. No more battlecruiser. We want a real escort with 5 tac consoles! :D

    And if the devs really don't want to make another raptor (although that may be the most popular option) why not a Fek'Ihri K'Norr Escort with a phased shift console?

    Heck, they could start with an upgrade to the Guramba. It's still a competitive vessel, but maybe something with more hull, an additional turnrate point, an extra engineering or science console slot (or, le gasp, a 5th tactical console slot), a bit more in the way of shields. . .good stuff.

    Or they could upgrade the Draguas or Phalanx Gorn ships and give us more dedicated science ships, and give the Federation the finger when they start complaining about it. But now I'm just dreaming. . .
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    The reason is, I suspect, its that is visual identical to the B'rel ... I did expected the Anniversary to give a K'Vort because as the Ambassador its one of those ships that is requested and it would have cost very little to Cryptic to add it as its very much a larger B'rel.

    And I guess they dont want 2 ships that look the same having different capabilities.

    Maybe...but I think it would be relatively easy to make them different enough.
    They'd just need to compensate for the limitations of the original by adding details like rows of small windows and escape pods.
    The K'vorts in "Redemption" had a different colour scheme with a stronger green and grey details where they should be black.
    Also the K'vort has its wings locked in a position close to the horizontal while the B'rel in this game has them either all the way up or down.
    That would give the players something to mentally seperate them from the other version.
  • intrepid74656intrepid74656 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    aurigas7 wrote: »
    1st on my wishlist: K'Vort Bird of Prey. Gimme that super heavy disruptor cannons, 5 tac consoles. Call it a battlecruiser ffs. since it was called so in TNG. Just gimme a proper bop with supersized, mean wingtip cannons. Nao !

    You know that one is the follow up to the throne of ugly and abomination? Right after the fugly Hoh'SuS.
    I do want those cannons..
    I'd be happy with a BoP with a third rear weapon. They're not keeping up with the newer escorts and the defensive creep that's been happening.

    I fail to see why a 3rd aft slot would be even remotely useful on a BoP. With the turn rate as high as that, you shouldn't even need aft weapons imho..
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I sometimes dream of a 5 fore 2 aft BoP.........
    ^^ This ^^
    Maybe the game should be renamed to BoP online if this gets through.
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I would not mind a 5 forward 3 aft Battle Cruiser with 5 tac console slots for the Klingons.
    Imho this should have been the default layout for KDF battle cruisers and 4-4 for Fed cruisers.
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  • number1romulannumber1romulan Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Only thing that would interest me as a KDF/Romulan would be a Fleet Guramba

    I think the Feds got all their T5's at fleet level - but no Guramba - is there any explaination for this?
  • bucklerpwbucklerpw Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd like a BFG ship with a LOT of firepower. BFG -> Big Ferengi Gun :D
  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Only thing that would interest me as a KDF/Romulan would be a Fleet Guramba

    I think the Feds got all their T5's at fleet level - but no Guramba - is there any explaination for this?

    This is a wild guess on my part, but I think it had something to do with the built-in energy beam attack not being a transferable universal console. That's what differentiates it from, say, the Scourge.
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  • number1romulannumber1romulan Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This is a wild guess on my part, but I think it had something to do with the built-in energy beam attack not being a transferable universal console. That's what differentiates it from, say, the Scourge.

    No can't be - B'rel retro has no console - Enhanced battle cloak is built in

    maybe they are worried feds will complain that it would be too OP with 10% more hull and 10 consoles - LOL
  • daroskadaroska Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    We'll be lucky if we can get a bucket shaped, low poly ship in a lockbox, at this rate. :P
    And luckier are those who can get a 'walrus hugging the ship' paintjob with fitting text. :D
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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Lethean Interceptor-class strike ship
    - similar to the Andorian Khyzon-class but without any sepecial weapons. Comes with anti-proton dual cannons by default and a Rapture universal console (can only be used on this ship) that prevents the enemy from using any abilities for 5sec vs. NPCs and 3sec vs. players. Rapture attack can be broken if the Interceptor takes a certain amount of damage.

    And I would not say no to a Ferasan-themed Armitage rip-off.
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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd be all for a Ferasan escort carrier - something to even out with the fed's HEC - as long as it got unique ferasan fighters.
  • miri2miri2 Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    bucklerpw wrote: »
    I'd like a BFG ship with a LOT of firepower. BFG -> Big Ferengi Gun :D

    Aww... I was hoping you meant Battlefleet Gothic. Lord knows I wouldn't say no to a Falchion Frigate. :P
    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Falchion_Escort#Technical_Specifications



    A bit less jokingly, I've had the idea floating around in my head for a while now for a Gorn stealth support cruiser based around a constantly active, but variable strength Mask Energy Signature effect (strongest when idle, weaker when throwing BOff powers and projectiles, and weakest-- but not off-- when firing energy weapons or being shot at).
    It would be pretty easy to turn it into a bundle breaking it into a science-weighted Stealth Support Cruiser, an engineering-weighted Stealth Superiority Cruiser, and a tactical-weighted Stealth Artillery Support Cruiser.
    ... and possibly make the ship line unlock small-scale Isolytic Burst beams from the Dilithium Store, just to pound a final nail into the Khitomer accords.

    A Lethean interceptor would be pretty epic, but since I don't the cannon has ever shown a Lethean ship (I could be wrong there), it should probably be a very small ship with some form of non-conventional stealth technology.


    I personally would rather not see a Ferasan re-skin of the Armitage, just because it seems every KDF ship that's been introduced after the B'rel Retrofit has been some flavor of "take X Federation ship, and make it Klingon-y." Not that there's anything intrinsically wrong with that if you make enough changes between the two, but it's not a trend I'd like to see get over-used is all.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'm sorry but I don't have any new ship ideas at the moment.
    I ran out of new ideas a long while ago and I also feel it's not really worth the trouble any more.
    So here's one of my old ideas...very old.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=3419769&postcount=120
  • lykumlykum Member Posts: 382
    edited April 2013
    k'vort heavy cruiser for engies, fek'ihr class as seen in Starfleet armada for science, aaaand something bigger than a raptor but smaller than a bortasqu for tac cappins?
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lykum wrote: »
    k'vort heavy cruiser for engies, fek'ihr class as seen in Starfleet armada for science, aaaand something bigger than a raptor but smaller than a bortasqu for tac cappins?

    Problem with the Fek'lhr from Star Trek Armada is that it was created by Mad Doc/Activision and Cryptic might not have the rights to it. It's a nice ship, in fact I have been modding and modelling for that game since 2001 and I'd love to see it appear in STO, even as a science vessel.

    A image link for the less informed.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Klingon_Fek%27lhr_armada.jpg
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