Not really something that's a matter of opinion or other subjective measures. You clearly don't understand even basic economics.
Price fixing never makes things better. In every case that it's been tried it always drives up the price of goods, because supply shrinks and escapes to other, uncontrolled markets.
The history of the USSR is proof of just how badly price control fails.
Not really something that's a matter of opinion or other subjective measures. You clearly don't understand even basic economics.
Well better than you do because you are confusing "controls" with "command economy"
Price fixing never makes things better. In every case that it's been tried it always drives up the price of goods, because supply shrinks and escapes to other, uncontrolled markets.
Actually thats caused by "market forces"
the opposite of market controls
The history of the USSR is proof of just how badly price control fails.
Except they Never had them
A better example is the post war recovery of Germany
The entire economic TRIBBLE hole we are in is primarily the result of rampant market speculation and deregulation. All it does is make the rich richer, and TRIBBLE over the poor and average. It is a system based on parasitism. To say there is nothing wrong with market speculation is to be grossly ignorant of what has been going on in the world for the past few decades and especially the last few years.
STO has a lot of checks and balances in it that keep the market from becoming too unfair, overall I am actually rather pleased by it. It is hard to really gouge people too much, and there are a lot of worthwhile items that are good in End-Game which can be attained for free rather easily.
Actually thats caused by "market forces" the opposite of market controls
Market forces will find a equilibrium, a point where supply and demand set a semi-constant price point. When one or the other changes then the price changes.
Market controls however do only one thing, they cause the price to rise, because supply goes elsewhere.
Spain, Greece, and Cyprus were all tightly-controlled economies. It could be argued that their collapse was the result of failure to increase the economy enough to pay for the rather generous government benefits provided.
Ireland's problem was that they had massive economic growth based on the bubbles in computer-technology markets. When technology improved and prices and values dropped, they found the flaw in a single-issue economy. And incidentally, the Irish economy isn't "ruined" - it just isn't as shiny as it was at the peak of the dot-com bubble.
Tightly controlled economies fail. Always. Every time it's been tried, it's been a colossal failure, because it's not suited to human beings.
You begin to remind me of an acquaintance on another forum, a dyed-in-the-wool socialist who thinks the treatises of Marx and Engels are still economic wisdom. He can't see the failure mode either, no matter how many times it's pointed out.
yeah, lol @ deregulation. US housing bubble was government supported as well, the govt guaranteed loans so banks were all IDGAF, and flipping/escalated prices made everybody a genius until it stopped. Last person holding the note cant make the mortgage, banks go under, govt has to bail them out and ... that is where we are now. It wasnt deregulation, it was market distortion.
yeah, lol @ deregulation. US housing bubble was government supported as well, the govt guaranteed loans so banks were all IDGAF, and flipping/escalated prices made everybody a genius until it stopped. Last person holding the note cant make the mortgage, banks go under, govt has to bail them out and ... that is where we are now. It wasnt deregulation, it was market distortion.
Market distortion made possible by...... you guessed it, deregulation.
The Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act, the Garn?St. Germain Depository Institutions Act, and of course the Gramm?Leach?Bliley Act, made it possible and profitable to give out subprime mortgages with little concern for the risks involved.
Now, while nobel prize winning economists are still hammering out the many many causes of our current economic woes, can we get the thread back on track to something we can all be experts on. Pretend price fixing on a pretend money for a pretend item set in a pretend galaxy?
People still trying to explain to Sollvax why he is the modern day reincarnation of Herbert Hoover?
Pointless.
Its like trying to explain to a conspiracy nut that there really are no secret black helicopters or UN-run re-education camps. Sollvax simply refuses to acknowledge any information which conflicts with his crazy world view.
You'd have better luck convincing him that Bigfoot is real before he concedes how twisted his understanding of economics really is.
yeah, lol @ deregulation. US housing bubble was government supported as well, the govt guaranteed loans so banks were all IDGAF, and flipping/escalated prices made everybody a genius until it stopped. Last person holding the note cant make the mortgage, banks go under, govt has to bail them out and ... that is where we are now. It wasnt deregulation, it was market distortion.
Yeah, they forgot about the whole "providing loans to people who could not hope to afford them", the whole "providing loans to people who've foreclosed on 1, 2, 3, 4, 5+ housing loans already", and the whole "not penalizing the people who foreclose because it's just easier to collect a bail-out" among other things.
Yeah, they forgot about the whole "providing loans to people who could not hope to afford them", the whole "providing loans to people who've foreclosed on 1, 2, 3, 4, 5+ housing loans already", and the whole "not penalizing the people who foreclose because it's just easier to collect a bail-out" among other things.
It takes 300 pages in size 12 font, times new roman, single spaced to fully explain everything about it. Collapse of the Real Estate Market, and the Automotive Industry, were only a fraction to the failings of the banks, and their bailout.
That is all included in the IDGAF clause, which came from the F&F incentives. Banks didnt need to check, if Fannie said go, they went. If banks were on the hook they would not have made the loans, go figure.
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Not really something that's a matter of opinion or other subjective measures. You clearly don't understand even basic economics.
Price fixing never makes things better. In every case that it's been tried it always drives up the price of goods, because supply shrinks and escapes to other, uncontrolled markets.
The history of the USSR is proof of just how badly price control fails.
Well better than you do because you are confusing "controls" with "command economy"
Actually thats caused by "market forces"
the opposite of market controls
Except they Never had them
A better example is the post war recovery of Germany
STO has a lot of checks and balances in it that keep the market from becoming too unfair, overall I am actually rather pleased by it. It is hard to really gouge people too much, and there are a lot of worthwhile items that are good in End-Game which can be attained for free rather easily.
Market forces will find a equilibrium, a point where supply and demand set a semi-constant price point. When one or the other changes then the price changes.
Market controls however do only one thing, they cause the price to rise, because supply goes elsewhere.
And is working on a fifth
Remember money is a construct
90% of it doesn't even physically exist
Wow... just wow.
all down the pan
Ireland's problem was that they had massive economic growth based on the bubbles in computer-technology markets. When technology improved and prices and values dropped, they found the flaw in a single-issue economy. And incidentally, the Irish economy isn't "ruined" - it just isn't as shiny as it was at the peak of the dot-com bubble.
Tightly controlled economies fail. Always. Every time it's been tried, it's been a colossal failure, because it's not suited to human beings.
You begin to remind me of an acquaintance on another forum, a dyed-in-the-wool socialist who thinks the treatises of Marx and Engels are still economic wisdom. He can't see the failure mode either, no matter how many times it's pointed out.
the controlled economies are holding on
and we are about to go the same way unless we stop the price hikes
I'm sorry, define "fail" and until you do, this statement is meaningless.
Market distortion made possible by...... you guessed it, deregulation.
The Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act, the Garn?St. Germain Depository Institutions Act, and of course the Gramm?Leach?Bliley Act, made it possible and profitable to give out subprime mortgages with little concern for the risks involved.
Now, while nobel prize winning economists are still hammering out the many many causes of our current economic woes, can we get the thread back on track to something we can all be experts on. Pretend price fixing on a pretend money for a pretend item set in a pretend galaxy?
Pointless.
Its like trying to explain to a conspiracy nut that there really are no secret black helicopters or UN-run re-education camps. Sollvax simply refuses to acknowledge any information which conflicts with his crazy world view.
You'd have better luck convincing him that Bigfoot is real before he concedes how twisted his understanding of economics really is.
There's a LOT more to it than that.
Yeah, they forgot about the whole "providing loans to people who could not hope to afford them", the whole "providing loans to people who've foreclosed on 1, 2, 3, 4, 5+ housing loans already", and the whole "not penalizing the people who foreclose because it's just easier to collect a bail-out" among other things.
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It takes 300 pages in size 12 font, times new roman, single spaced to fully explain everything about it. Collapse of the Real Estate Market, and the Automotive Industry, were only a fraction to the failings of the banks, and their bailout.
Overall, towards the OP.
We need to take control of our market.