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born2bwild1
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If this is the case then Fed/KDF characters must have access to Romulan ships/gear.
There is no way that our Fleetbases should be building out Romulan ships and gear for the Romulan only players in the fleet.
That would be an OUTRAGE! To expect that our built up bases produce Romulan ships/gear but existing fleet members don't get access to it unless they roll a romulan?
But Romulan Charaters will have access to Fed ships/Romulan ships/KDF ships?
Tell me this is not the case?
If it is the case - fleets should boycott the production of any Romulan ships/gear!
All members of a fleet should have access to the same gear and equipment. No member of a fleet should have exclusive content that the others do not. This situation must be prevented.
I am hoping Cryptic won't be so stupid as to allow Romulan characters access to Fed/KDF ships and equipment but not the other way around.
This needs some clarification.
Fleet leaders have a responsiblity to insure that ALL members(in good standing and appropriate rank) have equal access to ALL ships and gear. There should not be one group(Romulans) in your fleet that have exclusive items that other fleet members don't just because they don't want to roll a Romulan toon. If it becomes Cryptic's policy to give some members of your fleet exclusive access: just say no. I can only see big problems with what I highlighted from Mr Stahl above.
There is no way that our Fleetbases should be building out Romulan ships and gear for the Romulan only players in the fleet.
That would be an OUTRAGE! To expect that our built up bases produce Romulan ships/gear but existing fleet members don't get access to it unless they roll a romulan?
But Romulan Charaters will have access to Fed ships/Romulan ships/KDF ships?
Tell me this is not the case?
If it is the case - fleets should boycott the production of any Romulan ships/gear!
All members of a fleet should have access to the same gear and equipment. No member of a fleet should have exclusive content that the others do not. This situation must be prevented.
I am hoping Cryptic won't be so stupid as to allow Romulan characters access to Fed/KDF ships and equipment but not the other way around.
This needs some clarification.
Q: (walshicus) How will lockbox ships and consoles work for Romulans?
Dstahl: Romulan Republic captains not only have access to their exclusive faction ships, but will also have access to the ships and consoles of their chosen ally. Lock Box ships will remain available to all faction captains. This includes the possibility that we might release a Romulan themed box that may have specific Romulan ships that are available to all factions.
Fleet leaders have a responsiblity to insure that ALL members(in good standing and appropriate rank) have equal access to ALL ships and gear. There should not be one group(Romulans) in your fleet that have exclusive items that other fleet members don't just because they don't want to roll a Romulan toon. If it becomes Cryptic's policy to give some members of your fleet exclusive access: just say no. I can only see big problems with what I highlighted from Mr Stahl above.
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Make claiming the c-store ships you own just give you the consoles ?
I also object to the ship thing, no one should fly around in the ships of another faction, and certainly not one-way.
Hell no - I know our fleet won't be accepting any Romulan players and building them ships - if the existing members don't have equal access.
So a Romulan player can come into a fleet - go to your base and have access to buy a Romulan ship - a Fed ship or a KDF ship
But the players that built the base are restricted to only the ships of their existing faction? HELL NO!
Other faction ships are already (annoyingly) accessible to players not playing as those factions. The idea behind limited that has long since faded. I am extremely hopeful that any Tier 5.5 Romulan ships are via the C-Store only, and the only rewards coming through the Starbase are weapons etc.
Lock-box ships are different.
What I am saying is that if they tag the Romulan to an existing faction and fleet - the fleet ships should be availible to ALL memeber of the fleet regardless if they are Romulan or Fed/KDF
the Idea of allowing romulans to be some special class that will have access to all 3 faction classes of ships would be a slap in the face to the existing factions.
Even C-store ships - if a Romulan can use a Warbird and an Oddy - then a Fed Character should also have access to a Warbird and an Oddy
If this is not the case why would anyone play Fed or KDF - when you could play Romulan and take advantage of everything that was already built?
This would bury the KDF even farther into the ground as no new players are going to roll an real Klingion/KDF toon when they could roll a rommie and get access to KDF ships/bases and Rommie ships.
The KDF will die off due to player attrition over time.
They can't do that though unless they offer the consoles at a discount since you do not get the ship it goes with. If they offer the discount; everyone who bought a ship just for the console will then feel ripped off.
If they would of held off and waitied till they could give the Romulans starbases, and Cstor exclusives this could of been avoided. But Cryptic never waits for anything when they can release it NOW!
This is going to blow up in their face HUGE if Romulan players get dual access to ships - and existing Fed/KDF players are restricted to Faction specific ships.
Maybe, but people will still play while raging and complaining, and STO will continue on.
Ain't that the truth! Still if enough fleets boycott romulan players if they get dual ship/gear capability it will become a big problem for Cryptic.
I mean why play anything else, if you can play a Romulan and have access to 2 factions worth of ships on 1 character?
Talk about investment wasted in your existing characters!
And as I said this will be a MASSIVE problem for the KDF - why would anyone ever again roll a KDF toon when you could roll a Romulan and get access to Romulan ships and KDF ships - and KDF gear? It would make no sense to play as a klingon other than fan interest.
Death of the KDF(or klingons at least)
Level up a starbases and embassy like federation and kdf players had too?
Could also buy their own equivalent like the current factions had to?
You totally miss the point of the Romulans being a half faction, therefore they do not get their own starbases to level to buy faction specfic goods, so the question remains of how are they suppose to get the consoles unless they are allowed to buy faction specific things.
If Cryptic would make them a complete faction this would not be the case, however they are choosing to release them in this unfinished state.
Also requiring people who make a Romulan to rebuy a console they already bought is the worse case of double dipping and would create a bigger uproar then the one they currently have.
I wouldn't say so, I had to buy stuff separate for my kdf faction toon as I did for my federation faction toons. So why would there be issues or uproar if a 3rd faction was expected to do the same. As you say it's an unfinished faction. In a worse state than the kdf is currently. At best it's the kdf done in reverse. Which don't actually fix the problem the kdf have. It's just moved the issue to end game and made a mockery of it being a faction
We don;t know what's going to happen yet. Isn't this all speculation?
If yes, then ... the Romulan Faction has crashed?
:P
Buy them from the Ferengi at a "fair and equitable price, allowing for a modest profit". :cool:
That sir would be a great idea and very Star Trek :cool:
Well technically that's why I asked for more clarification.
If you roll a Rommie do you get to have exclusive romulans ships/equipment + the ships and equipment of the faction you ally with.
If you do this is TOTAL B.S. - if the faction you join does not have access to those/that ships/gear as well.
It's like a new kid coming into a school yard and the teacher says - "here rommie - you get to have these brand new toys and see those toys the kids who are here have? You get to use those to!"
Then the teacher says to the kids that have been there all the time(and have had a school project that fixed up there playground/toybox) - "you guys have to share your toys with the new kids - but they don't have to share their toys with you!"
Well we all know what would happen in that school yard(depending on how big the new kids are of course) but the parents could also cut funding to the school in protest - or try to block the new kids from coming to their kids school.
As I've been saying equipment is 1 thing but the factional ship swapping is another bad idea
Meanwhile other fleets will gladly be accepting these people making your "boycott" pointless.
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Things I care about in people joining my fleet:
1) Willingness to talk and engage in teamed missions
2) Willingness to contribute to fleet projects
Things I don't care about in people joining my fleet:
1) Whether or not they get access to a few more things than I do
Romulans having dual ship capability will turn into a very ugly situation. All those players who don't want to roll a romulan will now be second class citizen in their OWN fleet!
So my shipyard will be able to build a romulan toon his Fleet Romulan ship and his ship from my existing faction - went all I can do is build him his ships which I don't get to fly?
So the players contributing to the bases provisions get to see the new Romulan players - using those provisions for stuff they can't get?(unless they ditch the toon they invested so heavily in and roll a romulan)
I see a HUGE problem with this.
We need more details.
chances are thats what most roms will do anyway. join a fleet they are already in. I hope to do it with my new rom alt when i make one.
It's a huge problem if every one can get each others factional ships
Okay, do you want a lore answer or a game mechanics answer? Not sure, okay, I'll give you both.
From a lore standpoint, use of Federation/Klingon equipment and ships is the trade off those entities choose to make in exchange for the highly skilled captains and crews that ally with them.
From a game mechanic standpoint, the majority of STO players are end game players and the majority of decisions that Cryptic makes will be to hold the interest and finesse funds from those end game players. By allowing Romulans access to the +1 ship consoles, ships, and Starbases that these players have invested the time and money to develop, they make it more enticing for that existing end-game player to roll up his sleeves and start a level 1 Romulan.
And I think this deserves to be talked about more. You're speaking as if some entirely new player is going to join your fleet and, because he has a couple more ship choices than you, turn you into a second class citizen. But it won't be some new player joining your fleet, oh no, that Romulan will be played by Bob, the guy who's been in your fleet forever. And Bob has been investing dilithium, time and sweat into building that Starbase just the same as you have. So cut Bob some slack.
Rest in Peace Brothers
No Problem will cut "Bob" some slack - even new rommie who joins - that's not the point. Point is why do the new players - lets just talk about new players - why would they roll anything but a Romulan when they get access to 2 factions worth of stuff? No-one needs to roll a Fed or a KDF any more if this happens as they would be at a disadvatage to the new Romulan charater.
So in summary - new players or existing players who roll a Romulan will get a major advantage over existing players who do not want to roll a Romulan.
So you see no problem with that type of system?