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Hi, title pretty well explains it. I am getting a rather regular FPS lag spike, it does however seem to be object dependant. The more objects the more often I recieve 4 FPS. It is so bad now that I get this unique form of UI lag every 25 seconds or so in the Sol system.
Now, I used to not have this issue, in fact it is a rather recent occurance, getting progressivly worse with each update. I use an AMD CPU on a rather cheap laptop, as my Desktop can't play the game at all despite having way more then the recomended specifications. However it is AMD as well and I am beginning to wonder if there is some kind of compatability issue at work here.
Please note that I watch the lag spikes with FPSGraph 1, and I can see that it is not a seperate process on my computer, in fact I can watch the Game Client eat my CPU, from a regular 60% all the way to 99%...
Please help, is there a setting or is this a compatiblitiy issue which will prevent me from playing the game now?
Update, a new symptom has appeared, not only are the lag spikes much more common with a Plasma Proc in effect, they seem to dedicate to it.
However, if I open the Main Menu while in game, I will go from 2-3 FPS, to 56 FPS. Then when I close the Menu, I lag again. Is my computer hungry, or is there a way to nerf the UI?
Now, I used to not have this issue, in fact it is a rather recent occurance, getting progressivly worse with each update. I use an AMD CPU on a rather cheap laptop, as my Desktop can't play the game at all despite having way more then the recomended specifications. However it is AMD as well and I am beginning to wonder if there is some kind of compatability issue at work here.
Please note that I watch the lag spikes with FPSGraph 1, and I can see that it is not a seperate process on my computer, in fact I can watch the Game Client eat my CPU, from a regular 60% all the way to 99%...
Please help, is there a setting or is this a compatiblitiy issue which will prevent me from playing the game now?
Update, a new symptom has appeared, not only are the lag spikes much more common with a Plasma Proc in effect, they seem to dedicate to it.
However, if I open the Main Menu while in game, I will go from 2-3 FPS, to 56 FPS. Then when I close the Menu, I lag again. Is my computer hungry, or is there a way to nerf the UI?
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So at this point unless somebody knows of some patch I believe I am now unable to play this game. Which is unfortunate, as I rather enjoyed it.
What Screen Resolution are you currently running on the STO Client? And have you tried using a lower screen resolution, such as 1200 X 800 ???
Something is bugged, something that pulls an enourmous amount of my computer's resources. It clearly seems attached to my UI, and turning off large amounts of the UI seems to help add time to the interval of lag.
So this is not a problem with my Computer, it is the Game's code.
Im running an AMD Radehon HD 6450 and before the 1/10 patch, i didnt get this kind of fps spikes, especially after i grabbed the latest beta drivers off the site....so it now seems its not a probably on my end but a problem on Cryptic's end.
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And how do you know that its a coding issue, and not a hardware performance issue if you haven't tried such a simple test???
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=1553393&postcount=1
and it helped out quite a bit in reducing FPS spikes and graphic lag
It seems to be related with 'draw in'. I'm fine if I stand still in the game, but as I move around a map (particularly ground maps), the image freezes up every time new characters pop into the screen.
I've tried everything from adjusting every in game setting I can, reinstalling STO, rolling back/updating drivers, disabling background applications etc. with no success.
Other games play flawlessly, so I know it's not my hardware. I missed out on the breen ship due to this, and I'm hoping I won't miss out on the 3 year anniversary as well.
2 Nvidia GTX 460s (SLI)
Windows 7 Pro x64
Asus Motherboard Sabertooth z77
i7 3770-K Processor
16GB of 1600 Hz DD3 memory
10,000 RPM 6/gbs velocity raptor HD
Have used both 306.xx and 310.xx drivers and the issue remains
950 watt PSU
NOT OC'd
Running game on FULL graphics / maintains 60 FPS (limited) (except as listed below)
AND I STILL GET THE FPS LAG SPIKES. I know my computer is not anywhere close to uber, but it gets the job done very well on all my games with very little cost (since I have been building this computer for the last 2 years lol)
I notice it mostly on New Romulus and it only happens when I have certain enemies targeted. When I un-target them, it goes away. It does happen elsewhere like PvP as well. The ability that makes me lag spike is mostly the smoke grenades/shroud and again, it only happens when I have them targeted and they are using those abilities. If I don't have them targeted, no FPS lag spike at all. I am dropping to around 8 FPS when this happens.
I used to have this problem with the sci ground ability "Dampning Field" or the old ground toys "Ice Grenades" that you can throw at people while on social zones when they used to put you in a block of ice.
I also have the same lag spike with all the tholians when targeted in the underground ruins.
I know its not my system because I can get 100+ FPS almost everywhere if I wanted to. I limit the system to 60 FPS for monitor hertz reasons and to avoid "tearing" and such. I don't want to have to use vertical sync as its a graphics hog.
Seems like several patches ago it was better or it might even be the way the drivers are handling poor coding. But regardless, this needs to be fixed. Its almost like the coding for some effects are taking advantage of hardware acceleration.
I had an old program Cyberlink Powerdirector 9. When the new Nvidia 306.xx drivers came out, they broke the hardware acceleration for the program and the new drivers did something differently. Cyberlink refused to correct the problem in that version and I ended up buying the latest. The bug made it impossible to create videos in its current state. When you wanted to preview from your timeline, you couldn't want video for more than a couple of seconds and then the program would have to "render". The hardware acceleration was gone.
UPDATE: This seems to have something to do with the UI... For example if the enemy disapears behind a wall or invisiible wall that shields the UI above their head (clipping), the lag disapears. Don't know if this helps.
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There is only one I am aware of.
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do u get massive lag spikes when u use the mouse to look around? i quit playing sto cus the lag was bad turned all setting to off or low and it helps abit. but the game is unplayable.
im reduced to doffing cus my system cant run sto insane lag spike when using mouse to look around and when having a target selected just like in ur vid.
i find it amusing that my pc can handle crysis metro and other games like those but not sto ...
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Hey, watched your video, and yes my FPS lag is very similar. I seem to view mine more in space. Perhaps due to the different hardware/drivers that we both use. However mine like yours seems to be UI dependant, where certin UI conditions occur that cause the game to all but come to a standstill.
I hope they see your video and work on a fix soon, seeing as my larger computer can not render the game at all.
And yes, to a previous poster, I still get the jitter when moving the camera with my mouse, but thats all it is now is jitter. It doesn't affect the FPS at all...
What I am getting at, with a system like mine is setup now and STO, my computer should run flawlessly playing STO. Overall, I have no complaints, but when they do occur, it becomes a playing/fun issue...
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This is definitely a problem with the UI.
At this point I am going to ask for a dev response. Please, if a dev could respond here that would be great!
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Right Click STO Launcher Shortcut > Properties > Compatibility
Check the two boxes
What this does is put your desktop into "Basic" mode instead of Aero mode or "Desktop Graphics Hog" mode.
You can do this for all your games if you know where the main program file is.
Let me know how this works for you.
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Even when you dont lag the UI is lagging your game.Check anywhere you want the FPS with and without UI.The diffrence in fps is not acceptatble ,I mean its a UI and you use it all the time ,it should be the last thing to use all your cpu power .Lets hope the UI improvements in s8 will fix this .
p.s.Im not talking about doff ui which can turn your PC into a slideshow if you have 400 doffs
The Lag Spikes occur during a most missions involving the Borg. Especially while playing the "Borg Invasion: Sector Block Battles/Missions" I'm not sure if possibly the January Update jacked up the Graphics for the
Cubes & Sphere, the UI or whats going on. But now I've been able to pin Point a potential Culprate
in this situation.....
?...What are your thoughts...? :mad:
! I'm being Serious !
Latest drivers, no overheating, more than enough hardware to run the game, and I get insane framerate hiccups anywhere, everywhere, on any graphics setting regardless of any fix usually 1 out of every 10 seconds while on the ground.
Space, I get a lot more fps generally, (starbase 24 not included >.<) but on the ground every 12 seconds for 1 or 2 seconds I get an fps drop to under 5.
I run skyrim maxed, aside from antialiasing (4x) and antisitropic (which I have at 8x) guild wars 2 on max, crysis 2 on max (dont waste your money)
and in STO I can have my settings on the absolute lowest and still have this issue, or the absolute highest, no change.
I have tried the last 2 7xxx series drivers for my ATI 7870, ensured my cooling is better than it has in ages, ran memtest86 and ensured my 16gb of ram is working properly, so please...
What can I do to play this game and enjoy how fun it is? Cuz this horrible spikey lagness fps drops are literally killing me. I would have better blood pressure sitting naked in space with 1000 paper cuts than I am getting playing this game with all this constant freeze-lagging fps. Halp