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  • psymantispsymantis Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited March 2013
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    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    I think that the exterior of the Captains Table is one of the most beautiful space maps ever created for STO , and should in no way be scrapped .

    That's what I feel whenever I see it. Whoever made it did a really good job.
  • rachelj88rachelj88 Member Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The Captains Table shouldn't be scrapped BUT it should have more functionality.

    the room with the tailor and the bank and the place to change ships should have a fully functional shipyard, buy new ships etc.

    another thing I've thought of is...

    We have these ice skates... that only work... in Q's winterwonderland, why not add Q and let him send us to a special map for ice skating? (or just add a skating pond on andoria.)

    oorr! how about... you like reputation systems so much... why not... add a private quarters at the captains table reputation system (gives LTS's and subbers something a little more unique)

    the ability to transwarp to other stations for free! no diplo! for free, from the captains table, add in a Captains table button on the lifts at DS9 or even on one of the doors in Sisko's office. K-7 the door to the Admirals office, SB-39 the door to the Admirals office... don't even think about putting one on Drozana! O_o

    *EDIT* - OH yeah! can you add a door on the Captains table... to the old ESD Lounge?? Pweez!*

    Overall the Captains Table is a nice social zone, I go there from time to time, mainly to "as everyone has said on this thread" - get away from ESD zone chat...

    RachelJ88

    P.S. - can you please, please, please! put a tailor on Bajor!
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  • angarus1angarus1 Member Posts: 684 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    rachelj88 wrote: »
    The Captains Table shouldn't be scrapped BUT it should have more functionality.

    the room with the tailor and the bank and the place to change ships should have a fully functional shipyard, buy new ships etc.

    another thing I've thought of is...

    We have these ice skates... that only work... in Q's winterwonderland, why not add Q and let him send us to a special map for ice skating? (or just add a skating pond on andoria.)

    oorr! how about... you like reputation systems so much... why not... add a private quarters at the captains table reputation system (gives LTS's and subbers something a little more unique)

    the ability to transwarp to other stations for free! no diplo! for free, from the captains table, add in a Captains table button on the lifts at DS9 or even on one of the doors in Sisko's office. K-7 the door to the Admirals office, SB-39 the door to the Admirals office... don't even think about putting one on Drozana! O_o

    *EDIT* - OH yeah! can you add a door on the Captains table... to the old ESD Lounge?? Pweez!*

    Overall the Captains Table is a nice social zone, I go there from time to time, mainly to "as everyone has said on this thread" - get away from ESD zone chat...

    RachelJ88

    P.S. - can you please, please, please! put a tailor on Bajor!

    Loving those ideas!
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    eisaakaz wrote: »
    Say very rare purple console vendors..... we deserve it.
    Absolutely! But only for Mk I through Mk IX.

    Twink your alts all you want.

    ;)
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  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Agreed...needs to revamp...how about putting some Orion dancing slave girls and a bar full of Gorns to make fun off? that would attract some attention :D
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  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,835 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    rachelj88 wrote: »
    *EDIT* - OH yeah! can you add a door on the Captains table... to the old ESD Lounge?? Pweez!*

    I miss that lounge and would like to see it readded to the Captain's Table instead of having it returned to ESD.
  • cedricophoffcedricophoff Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ide rather have some sort of top secret asteroid base, or normal base, then that horrible thing. But well yea. Guess that wont happen.
  • aspartan1aspartan1 Member Posts: 1,054 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    There is a sublevel on ESD that could be the entrance to it as well.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Always thought the Captain's table would be cool if you go there find a NPC...lets say Archer for example...he tells you a story, and you play as Archer with the the crew of the NX 01 Enterprise for a classic mission form the shows or movies.

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  • derrico1derrico1 Member Posts: 282 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    the captains table should be a place for lifers to go to purchase everything in game 25%-50% off while free to play players are paying regular price on items .. plus high stakes dabo and poker would be awsome for there ......
  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The big draw for the Captains Table should be making it a social zone that is a time saver and a place to purchase better than normal consumables and gear.

    COs VIP lounge is accessed through an alternate door choice at Club Caprice. The main reason to go there is the bank, nemesis terminal, auction house, and other such are in one location so people spend very little time on housekeeping tasks and more time in play. The heals sold by the bartenders are far above what's craft able or purchasable outside.

    The Captains Table should offer something similar.

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  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I just wish you could access the CT directly from anywhere in the Sol System. The biggest reason I avoid it is because you need to fly over there and sit through two loading screens to actually get inside.
  • mithrosnomoremithrosnomore Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    After 400 days as a subscriber, wouldn't that person have paid just as much money as you? Or is your money worth more?

    A person could spend that same amount of money in an hour or three if they just raid the Z-store.

    That isn't the point.

    The Captain's Table was an 'incentive' offered to people that did a certain thing. If Cryptic said that people that spend $30.00 or more in the Z-Store during April 2013 will receive an *EXCLUSIVE* Edosian BOFF and DOFF, and people that spend $60.00 will receive an *EXCLUSIVE* super-tech cruiser, I would say that those people would have a complaint if they later started giving those items to people that just spent $30/60.00 on the game in any way over any amount of time.


    If they say that something is only going to be for people that do X, then they should keep it that way.
    Not because people want to hoard their little benefits, but because they were promised something and expect promises to be kept.


    Anyway...


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    As far as the Captain's Table itself, I would say start with two things:

    1) Access- Let any Captain at any station or outpost have access through a special door or transporter.

    When the Captains want to leave, they would take the same door or transporter back to wherever they came from before they entered the Captain's Table.

    2) Dabo- Because a Dabo table would fit right in.


    After that they can start looking at adding more vendors and contacts and whatever else may be missing... I don't really remember what all vendors are available, but I do know that it wasn't something that so impressed me that I would choose to go there instead of ESD or the Academy for my routine chores.
  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Ease of access is a minor issue at best. If ease of access were enough to make a place active then SB39 should be very active. Drozana is more active while less convenient to get too.

    Right now our fleet starbases at almost any tier is more useful and functional. What is even worse is that the 2 ships (Tuffi, d'kora) have bridges more useful.
  • aspartan1aspartan1 Member Posts: 1,054 Arc User
    edited March 2013
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    Right now our fleet starbases at almost any tier is more useful and functional. What is even worse is that the 2 ships (Tuffi, d'kora) have bridges more useful.

    That is what irks me the most with the situation to be frank. :mad:
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  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The captain's table is pretty useless, we have fleets and we have ESD.

    Why did this get put in there without a transwarp option. IMO it's the weirdest addition to the game they could have made and even then it was not fully functional. It's like a half rushed attempt to make lifers feel better about their lifetime purchase.

    0 transwarp
    0 perks
    0 extras like the ability to purchase special gear
    0 travel options like transwarp gateways to other places in the universe
    0 gains for currency from vendors there like talking to some of the people and getting a bonus dil/commendations/marks/fleet currencies

    It just was thrown in there imo.

    I'd really like to see them do that to help the fleets, extra currencies to help the fleets get built even if it's just daily personel and resources, it would make lifers more appealing to the fleets especially the smaller fleets.
  • typhoncaltyphoncal Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I didn't bother to read past the first page, however the Captains table is a waste of assets. Something should be done, or simply eliminate it. I will say, nice interior but make something useful of it.
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  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited March 2013
    1. Add transwarp to aenigma nebula.
    2. Update all vendor gear to ESD equivalent or better.
    3. Add anything you can do at ESD and the academy in.
    4. Add something bonus like exclusive doff missions, commodities from bar and chef etc.

    That's it. Then we have a reason to visit it and maybe even hang out in it. Only ever seen 1 other person there and we were so shocked at another human player being there, Spock turned up and proceeded to cover the walls in red matter and erase the event from history.

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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    My idea for the CT is to make it the travel hub of STO. Each space social area has a portal that goes straight to the nebula, every ground social area has a door that goes straight to CT, and every one that has access to CT has a transwarp power that shares a cooldown with the other transwarp powers.
  • kain9primekain9prime Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I like it and don't want it scrapped at all. Besides, it's a nice place to go when I get sick of seeing people on ESD post religious bigotry, bacon, sale and fleet recruit spam, or sexual obscenities while I wait for PvP ques.
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  • mithrosnomoremithrosnomore Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    typhoncal wrote: »
    I didn't bother to read past the first page, however the Captains table is a waste of assets. Something should be done, or simply eliminate it. I will say, nice interior but make something useful of it.

    What does that accomplish?
    Does keep the Captain's Table open drain resources from the rest of the game? Does keeping it open mean that development of something else is slowed down or prevented?

    While it would be nice to see them actually do something with it, it doesn't hurt anyone or anything by just leaving it as it is for those people that like it for whatever reason.

    On the other hand, they have already spent whatever time they did working on what is there now, so why not just take a few more steps to make it a place worth having spent that time on?

    kain9prime wrote: »
    I like it and don't want it scrapped at all. Besides, it's a nice place to go when I get sick of seeing people on ESD post religious bigotry, bacon, sale and fleet recruit spam, or sexual obscenities while I wait for PvP ques.

    And while I sympathize, you could make a new chat window that only included fleet, and friend chat (and maybe PMs) and keep that open on ESD and get more done.

    There is nothing at the Captain's Table that ESD doesn't have, and much at ESD that you can't get at the Captain's Table.
  • zanfrominuszanfrominus Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kain9prime wrote: »
    I like it and don't want it scrapped at all. Besides, it's a nice place to go when I get sick of seeing people on ESD post religious bigotry, bacon, sale and fleet recruit spam, or sexual obscenities while I wait for PvP ques.
    yes, i agree
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