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Idea for Scrapping the Captains Table
tostrekkie7
Member Posts: 50 Arc User
In my opinion, one of the most useless Lifetime Subscriber perks has to be the Captain?s Table. If I remember correctly, even Dan Stahl commented in a recent interview that the Capt Table wasn?t used much & should be scrapped. Well I for one agree with you Dan.
For those of you who don?t know about the Capt Table, here?s how it works. You load into the Sol System map. Just to the side of ESD is the Aenigma Nebula. You fly there and load into the Nebula map. Then from there you have to load into the Nebula Starbase map itself. The hassle of all those loading screens is enough to keep any player from thinking it?s a useful alternative to using ESD. So here?s my idea.
Get rid of the Aenigma Nebula & give Fed Lifetime Subscribers access to the old/original ESD (the Yo-Yo SB next to ESD). We can call it LSB - Lifetime Subscriber?s Base or Lifer?s Starbase. (ROFL, sorry couldn?t resist.) When Lifers warp into the Sol System, they would dock at LSB automatically. It would be an exact duplicate of ESD in everyway. Even mission contacts & vendors would be available, so as a Lifer, you would never have to go to ESD. If you did want to visit ESD just fly over or go to the Transporter room & beam over. Since the KDF travel through the Aenigma Nebula to reach the Captains Table as well, I would suggest KDF Lifers get access to the old/original Qo?noS map. Cryptic could modify it to be a military facility near First City.
As a Lifer myself, I would consider the LSB a useful & valuable perk given the restricted (smaller) player base that would have access. If anyone else considers the LSB an interesting idea, please help me keep this thread active and let?s see if we can get Cryptic?s attention. Thanks for your time & consideration.
For those of you who don?t know about the Capt Table, here?s how it works. You load into the Sol System map. Just to the side of ESD is the Aenigma Nebula. You fly there and load into the Nebula map. Then from there you have to load into the Nebula Starbase map itself. The hassle of all those loading screens is enough to keep any player from thinking it?s a useful alternative to using ESD. So here?s my idea.
Get rid of the Aenigma Nebula & give Fed Lifetime Subscribers access to the old/original ESD (the Yo-Yo SB next to ESD). We can call it LSB - Lifetime Subscriber?s Base or Lifer?s Starbase. (ROFL, sorry couldn?t resist.) When Lifers warp into the Sol System, they would dock at LSB automatically. It would be an exact duplicate of ESD in everyway. Even mission contacts & vendors would be available, so as a Lifer, you would never have to go to ESD. If you did want to visit ESD just fly over or go to the Transporter room & beam over. Since the KDF travel through the Aenigma Nebula to reach the Captains Table as well, I would suggest KDF Lifers get access to the old/original Qo?noS map. Cryptic could modify it to be a military facility near First City.
As a Lifer myself, I would consider the LSB a useful & valuable perk given the restricted (smaller) player base that would have access. If anyone else considers the LSB an interesting idea, please help me keep this thread active and let?s see if we can get Cryptic?s attention. Thanks for your time & consideration.
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I agree it should be tweeked but scrap it to replace it with the same thing but now add a giant eye sore next to ESD so LTS can have a giant castle ummmm no rather keep the vortex.
And to be honest I spend about as much time in the CT as I do on Vulcan, or Andoria, or Risa, or Bajor, or... you get the idea.
They could move that useless Veterain Dilithium Ore Vendor to here as well. (Seriously 2 days for 1000 refined ore?).
Maybe something that gives subscribers a bit of a preview of the things to come?
The Bartender can serve unique drinks thats only available there.
As for the Aenigma Nebula, why not get rid of it and just have some doors in ESD or Qo'nos that takes you there?
Move the Nebula itself to some corner of neutral space, where players could fly in and then they see the outside of the station.
I really don't like the idea of us returning to the original STO Earth Spacedock / Qo'nos. It serves no purpose other than nostalgia. And Cryptic has to go and update it, which is time wasted. If you have the need to return to the Original ESD / Qo'nos, those assets are available in the Foundry.
So... let me propose some added functionality:
The key for me is that the CT should give two benefits:
That's my thoughts at least.
It would also be nice if there was a Dabo table and even a research center. Make the whole place a retreat for serious captains.
I am an Elitists at heart after all.
Eisaak
Never.
Seconded...
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
The amount of waste space in this game is amazing. If they actually just spent time filling that existing space with things to do instead of adding more space, they'd have at least a couple years of stuff right there.
Not really sure what the point of having Risa or Andoria or three dozen other planets in the game is when you can't really do anything there. Seems like there is really a ton of development that could be done on those things which would expand the game tremendously.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
Put something there to MAKE us go there...special vendor idea was good and so were a couple of others.
But just to get rid of it...pffft...like another poster said...there are LOTS of planets that do not get used much, I do not see those going away.
ADDDD content to the Capt's Table and we will use it...
nuff said...:)
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It's probably my main constructive criticism of the game: there are lots of locations, but a lot of them are really not finished or give you no reason to be there.
Now, I don't expect every planet to become Nukara Prime or New Romulus. But there's got to be a workable middle ground, in the long run.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
I think it's because many of the game areas were created without being part of a plan, eg. usually if an area is created in WoW it's worked on with set goals and includes a certain amount of content. With STO those locations aren't part of a plan so they aren't proper areas as they haven't been properly developed. The development of it only happens between other scheduled work. Then that person leaves and it remains unfinished.
That's what happens when you rush out a game before it's ready, the devs have to try to patch up the bugs and try to ad-in content wherever they can instead of before release as should have happened. Not that there was a choice after being forced to rush something out for Atari to retain the rights after Perpetual couldn't finish. The joys of real world financial matters, eh?
My character Tsin'xing
There been plenty of posts that suggest Gold Subscribers get to go there too, just not have access to Lifetimer-specific perks.
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The conference table in the Captain's Table is awesome! That would have been worth 200k DL to have on our fleet starbases instead of that Welfare looking cafeteria table we got instead. :mad:
1. All commodities vendors
2. Extra dilithium person
3. Rewards and special people
4. Dabo
5. Crafting
In short a combo between the Tuffli + D'kora + specials. That would make it a place I would spend time to be sure. It would also be nice to see some special DOff and/or BOff available there as well that are bind on acquire or are very expensive if they can be traded.
Cryptic really dropped the ball on this one to be sure. It was supposed to be a special place for people that dropped the big cash in advance to support STO on blind faith and was marketed as such but it seems to have been forgotten. It is no more a perk as it is and has always been then any other place and is in fact less functional than areas not promoted sadly...
ingame: @.Spartan
Original Cryptic Forum Name: Spartan (member #124)
The Glorious, Kirk’s Protegè
This ^. I'd also like an airlock added where they put the ship of the month docked outside, where we can visit its bridge and decks as a sort of preview.
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^This!
The primary reason I never go to the Captain's Table, is it's just more convenient to dock at ESD. When I warp to Sol, I can glide forward a kilometer or two and dock at ESD, or I can turn and go full impulse for 10 or 15 seconds to reach the portal to the nebula.
If you are docking to take care of some business, which would you choose? The short path to the exchange, or the longer one?
It would make a lot more sense if both Fed's and Klink's got a transwarp power to the Captain's Table and they removed the portals. The portals floating above Earth and Qo'nos just don't make sense, especially during wartime. If they did this, I think you would see huge numbers of LTS docking at the Captain's Table every day.
My character Tsin'xing
You are correct. For what it is worth, if the CT had any real value I would be a tad irked at that "perk" to be frank but given the current state-of-affairs of the CT, it really does not matter methinks.
ingame: @.Spartan
Original Cryptic Forum Name: Spartan (member #124)
The Glorious, Kirk’s Protegè
If the idea is to make the exterior & interior more functional , then here's my suggestion :
Some time in the future , Cryptic plans to open up the quadrant west of Sol system .
This sector should house Betazed , Ferenginar , Tellar , ect .
To me the races above seem to be the less hostile spices -- and they should have a Space station that reflects their 'more refined' values .
Enter the Captains Table .
Move the station to the new quadrant , extend it a bit with a room or two (for regular / special Starbase functions) , keep the gorgeous exterior and there you have it -- the more civilized version of Drozana .
/my 2 cents
After 400 days as a subscriber, wouldn't that person have paid just as much money as you? Or is your money worth more?
Sig by my better half.
Dunno, a missed occasion to "bring to life" one of the best trek location ever made (even if it is novel based).
I dont know if they would have to be frank but the money is not really the issue. For reason I think the 400 day "deal" came after the F2P corruption. Nonetheless the fact it was promoted as a special place - selling point for people that put down a lot of money upfront - in one chunk, sight unseen in final version, then never doing anything with it as we were told they would is the injury. Then to add insult to the injury, even adding others to it in the long-tail and still doing nothing with it.
BTW: To answer your second question, the simple answer is: Yes
The performance of the money over the same time makes it so as does basic business economics at face value all things being equal and Cryptic thought so otherwise they would not have offered such an option in the first place; ROI and CI as well as compound interest are powerful incentives to say the least but I digress...
ingame: @.Spartan
Original Cryptic Forum Name: Spartan (member #124)
The Glorious, Kirk’s Protegè